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# January 4th 2021 -- Scikit-learn dev meeting *Don't forget to sign in when editing and put your name in front of the entries you want to discuss* ### Needs to be said: **Happy new year 2021!** ### Need decision - Adrin, Alex, Christian, Joel: SLEP 006 Sample Props Next steps towards voting. - [PR 16079](https://github.com/scikit-learn/scikit-learn/pull/16079) - https://hackmd.io/Psfd7aB1Qt6_fwv-EBVXqQ - After the conversations we converged on option 4 (yaay) - Alex thinks the solution is not too intrusive to the API - **Next step:** consolidate changes to option 4, and work on the PR ### Need attention (review) - Christian: SplineTransformer [PR 18368](https://github.com/scikit-learn/scikit-learn/pull/18368) Reviews are very welcome. All linear models would profit. It gives smooth interpolation on continuous features as opposed to tree based methods, which have discontinuities all over the place. - Thomas and Guillaume would be happy to review - Christian (if nobody else wants...): Common private loss module - [PR 19088](https://github.com/scikit-learn/scikit-learn/pull/19088) `sklearn._loss` module itself (touches nothing else in sklearn) - [PR 19089](https://github.com/scikit-learn/scikit-learn/pull/19089) replacement in linear logistic regression and hgbt (so that one can test and benchmark)* - Will give quantile loss in HGBT for free (almost) - Urgentish: post 0.24.0 fixes (released Dec 22, 2020): - [#19063](https://github.com/scikit-learn/scikit-learn/issues/19063) binary compat issue with old-ish macOS (10.13) for vendored libomp - [#19097](https://github.com/scikit-learn/scikit-learn/issues/19097) build scikit-learn from source on Apple Silicon - Shall we do 0.24.1 fast with this bugfix soon (e.g. next week) and maybe another 0.24.2 later? Other important bugs/regression to fix? - Option: could do for next release? or to tag it in new release. - Release 1.0 (renaming of 0.25) (do in April or May 2021, after next Python release) - we should remove non-ARM builds from travis, and then we'll probably be fine, and limit the frequency of ARM builds on travis - Drop python3.6 support (scipy has already done it) ### FYI (coming up SLEP) - Gael: fit_transform == .fit.transform (full discussion on https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DvoqY00ov7f87VutqGBP0ad0s-1a4PLH2FzuC4RVz4A/edit) - **Proposal**: The question at hand is to allow fit.transform to differ from fit_transform beyond numerical errors, ie implement significantly different strategy - **Benefits**: The benefits are that it would enable us to implement new learning approaches that we don’t support (stacking as a transformer, target encoding with internal CV, k nearest neighbor transformer without the pain). The overall concept is that of a train-time transform that differs from the test-time transform. TargetEncoding is the current main motivation. - **Plan B**: Workarounds that would enable this proposal to be rejected: bagging can be used instead of cross_val_predict to implement TargetEncoder (and stacking), potentially adding a keyword argument to enable the unsafe behavior - **Drawbacks**: The drawback is that it could be surprising to users (more complicated story to explain) and, importantly, would open the door to nasty bugs, for instance for users not using a pipeline and calling manually .fit.transform - Mitigation of this drawback: hashing and weak-refs could be used to detect that the same data is passed to fit and transform on those transformers and issue a warning. It would probably detect only a fraction of the cases, but would be useful to educate users about the problem. - **Next step**: draft a SLEP and vote on it (even if to reject it, so as to document the decision process) - **Comments**: - We don't necessarily follow this contract as it is in sklearn - (Adrin): limitations of the workaround - (Adrin): impact on third party -> what would this API allow other people do, and how would they implement their workarounds (point: third parties already violate it) - Clarify the amount of difference acceptable between (fit.transform), NMF is an example of a challenging - Data augmentation is a good example (eg in bias-mitigation strategies) - Adrin to add references and/or sample code ### General topics - Loïc: enable Github Discussions? One hope would be to help getting people involved outside the core developers. [Github Discussions doc](https://docs.github.com/en/free-pro-team@latest/discussions) - Reshama: how many people are on the mailing list? over 2k - + Discussions would allow for better coding formatting - We should be able to enforce our CoC - We would need to extend the triage team who can set the accepted answers and make sure the answers are indeed correct - We can try it and see how it goes, and roll back if we see we can't handle it - Make a PR to update the issue template to point to github discussions for users question - AFME Feb 2021 Sprint (https://afme2021.dataumbrella.org) - Andy, Adrin, and Olivier are giving a hand ### Contributors ### Next Meeting 25.1.2020, same time

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