# Software WG meeting: Jan 10, 2022

Agenda: https://github.com/OCNS/SoftwareWG/issues/56

## Attendees

- Ankur Sinha (Silver Lab, UCL)
- Shailesh Appukuttan (NeuroPSI, CNRS)
- Thomas Nowotny (University of Sussex)
- Joe Graham (SUNY Downstate)
- James Knight (University of Sussex)
- Marcel Stimberg (Sorbonne University, Paris, France)

## Meeting logs

### How we can improve participation for our events

- Shailesh/Thomas N to poke the OCNS Board Social Media chair to share our sessions on OCNS accounts.
- Balance user and developer related sessions.

#### Survey to gauge audience interest and topics

- Needs to be short (2-3 minutes)
- Include list of tutorials we can deliver
- Include text box to allow people to make other suggestions
- Shailesh to make survey form
- Shailesh/Ankur send out to mailing lists

### apart from our regular dev talks, what other events to plan this coming year

- more user focussed events
- CNS tutorials

### Notes/comments/discussion on the software citation principles dev session

- Credit in software dev not as clear/established as in papers
- Could ask to cite both paper and exact version (in methods)
- Zenodo does give you a DOI for "all versions", but just links to latest
- "Citation.cff" on GitHub allows you to define multiple citations (preferred), needs to be done manually
- Software Heritage IDs: point to exact snapshots; more for archival and permanent URLs. For example: https://archive.softwareheritage.org/browse/origin/directory/?origin_url=https://github.com/NeuralEnsemble/libNeuroML
- Float idea of Software Citation talk as part of primary conference program to OCNS Board

### Preparation for CNS 2022

- Prefer satellite tutorials before the conference (at least more than 2 days before so that folks aren't travelling)
- try and keep it very very cheap to encourage student participation: preferably have different registration rates
- can disconnect from Sched etc. that are used for the main meeting if necessary

### Making the working group more diverse

- Reach out to people who may be able to help us get started
- NEST folks
- Sharon Crook
- Other links:
- https://www.frontiersin.org/research-topics/26999/women-in-computational-neuroscience
- https://www.alba.network/ - Srikanth Ramaswamy (new Board member) is invovled in this, could loop them in.
- https://anneslist.net/

- Outreachy: https://www.outreachy.org/
- Example (NeuroFedora): https://www.outreachy.org/outreachy-december-2021-internship-round/communities/fedora/#extend-and-improve-neurofedoras-user-consumable-ar
- Usually hard because of dual requirements of technical and scientific knowledge
- May work with less technical tasks: infra/documentation/etc.

### Jitsi

Worked well, agree to continue using it for future meetings.