Velero Community Meeting and Open Discussion

# Velero Community Meeting and Open Discussion ## Collected meeting notes _This doc is meant to serve as the "one doc to rule them all" for Velero community meetings and open discussions._ _You can find recordings of these meeting [on YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7bmigfV0EqQRysvqvqOtRNk4L5S7uqwM)._ _Meeting template can be found [here](https://hackmd.io/vvnAMLMnQtKleTsYAcF8Hw)._ _If you have anything you'd like to put on the agenda, please do so below for the next meeting:_ # Velero Community Meeting and Open Discussion - Oct 15, 2019 Add your request, question or suggestion to [our issue list](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/velero/issues) - ### Status Updates - Carlisia - 1 down, 2 to go: https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/velero-plugin-for-aws - next: https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/velero/pull/1890 - Steve - continuing to experiment with restic-based volume snapshotter - working on docs - Adnan - Amanda - KubeCon San Diego updates - minilab, opportunity for community to get hands on keyboards in SD. - ### Discussion Topics - [steve] plugin makefile/dockerfile - multi-stage build vs. go build cache support - [Jonas] Guides as a separate docs item? See example: https://projectcontour.io/guides/ - [Jonas] Implement `/blog` on the website for a cleaner look? - ### Open Q&A - add your questions! - ### How can you get involved? - Let us know how you use Velero! https://github.com/heptio/velero/issues/1327 - Join us in slack (Kubernetes - [#velero](https://kubernetes.slack.com/messages/velero)) and help answer fellow users' questions! - [Help Wanted](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/velero/labels/Help%20wanted) issues - ### Contributor shoutouts! - @andyzhangx - Azure china/germany support (https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/velero/pull/1938) # Velero Community Meeting and Open Discussion - Oct 08, 2019 Add your request, question or suggestion to [our issue list](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/velero/issues) - ### Status Updates - Adnan - Looking into errors creating custom resources in <v1.14 with structured schema CRDs [#1935](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/velero/issues/1935) - Carlisia - image for aws plugin is (almost) up (https://console.cloud.google.com/gcr/images/heptio-images/GLOBAL/plugin-aws), working on moving documentation and testing it against a AWS cluster - velero-plugin-example updated and moved to new GH org - (draft) PR for extracting plugins rebased with the changes for the org move - Nolan - Waiting for CRDs to be ready before restoring CRs - KubeCon talk prep - Internal CNS/restic debugging - Steve - Azure china/germany support - restic volume snapshotter prototype - ### Discussion Topics - [steve] restic as a volume snapshotter plugin - Only able to back up PVs - Bring your own repo? - Right now Velero manages the repo lifecycle, does it make sense to keep doing this in the plugin approach? - Adnan: What’s the historical reason behind not doing restic support in a plugin? - Nolan: This uses a worker pod design - has it informed your thinking about our design proposal for worker pods? - Adnan: In the worker pod, could we mount just the volume we want to back up, rather than all of them? - Steve: it's difficult to run restic as a snapshot plugin without worker pods, but the design doc is different - Steve: restore's easier, since it's a pod that mounts a PVC and repopulates it before giving it to the app - Steve: It mounts a subdirectory for the pod that's using the PV now, but we may be able to narrow it down - Adnan: Seems like we might be able to mount the PV directly - Steve: It gets tricky; works for ReadWriteMany but not all volumes - Adnan: Can't you mount ReadWriteOnce as read-only? - Steve: was under the impression that we couldn't do that - Adnan: ReadWriteOnce can only be mounted on a single node - Steve: another approach would be a sidecar, but that requires adding a sidecar to every workload you want to back up. It restarts the pod and that's a downside - ### Open Q&A - add your questions! - ### How can you get involved? - Let us know how you use Velero! https://github.com/heptio/velero/issues/1327 - Join us in slack (Kubernetes - [#velero](https://kubernetes.slack.com/messages/velero)) and help answer fellow users' questions! - [Help Wanted](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/velero/labels/Help%20wanted) issues - ### Contributor shoutouts! - @JWong101 - GKE workload identity support (https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/velero/pull/1810) - @boxcee - Azure cross-subscription backups (https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/velero/pull/1895) - @spiffcs - Schedule docs (https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/velero/pull/1925) # Velero Community Meeting and Open Discussion - Oct 01, 2019 [Previous meeting notes](https://github.com/heptio/velero-community) You can find the video recording of this meeting [on YouTube](LINK) Add your request, question or suggestion to [our issue list](https://github.com/heptio/velero-community/issues) - ### Updated Meeting Format - ### Status Updates - @nrb - CI investigations - adding support for `plugins` flag on `velero install` command - @carlisia - Blog post - doc reorg - extract plugins - starting new plugin repos - @steve - sync controller updates - experimenting with restic VolumeSnapshotter plugin - ### Discussion Topics - [steve] restic project health - https://forum.restic.net/t/is-restic-dying/2103 - [nolan] should the designer and implementor of a feature be different people? - [steve] not necessarily a policy, but may be useful - [carlisia] the documents would need to be more detailed if this we do this; trend has been to be more general - [carlisia] as the project grows, we may have specialists - [steven wong] documents are useful for async communication and feedback and in larger projects - [steven wong] if resolving major issues, allow the design in and move foward. Don't need to do every detail - [Steven Wong] Is there a getting started guide for developers? - Current docs: https://velero.io/docs/v1.1.0/start-contributing/ - Add proposing features to it - [carlisia] `--plugins` flag on `velero install` - should it be required? Context: https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/velero/pull/1884) - [Nolan] Velero's not really functional without any object storage, so it would need at least one. We can make this required for a beta and see how it works - [carlisia] should we make the install command interactive? - [Nolan] Let's add it to 1910 and discuss it! Only thing is that it should be optionally interactive, so it's still usable in scripts. - [tim] app-centric approach to backups? - [Nolan] This is a long-term view, but Velero should be able to use some sort of app definition like a Helm Release or an App CRD as a "root" object and walk the graph of resources - [steve] changing restic approach to be PV/VolumeSnapshotter-based - ### Open Q&A - Sorry this might be off-topic, but will the velero installer be able to do things like adding env vars, so people won't have to edit the deployment manifest to add env vars? - [nolan] Let's definitely discuss this! - [carlisia] See also this issue: https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/velero/issues/1910 - there's an item in there for this question. - ### How can you get involved? - Let us know how you use Velero! https://github.com/heptio/velero/issues/1327 - Join us in slack (Kubernetes - [#velero](https://kubernetes.slack.com/messages/velero)) and help answer fellow users' questions! - [Help Wanted](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/velero/labels/Help%20wanted) issues - ### Contributor shoutouts! - @spiffcs - fixing logging for backup of additional items # Velero Community Meeting - Sept 3, 2019 [Previous meeting notes](https://github.com/heptio/velero-community) Add your request, question or suggestion to [our issue list](https://github.com/heptio/velero-community/issues) - ## What have we been working on? - [ZenHub - v1.2 milestone](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/velero-5c59c15e39d47b774b5864e3/board?milestones=v1.2%232019-10-31&filterLogic=any&repos=99143276,112385197,150626909) - [Carlisia] - Steps to move GH organization - https://github.com/heptio/velero/pull/1822 - [Carlisia] - Steps to extract plugins out of tree - https://github.com/heptio/velero/issues/1814 - ## What's coming up? - ## Items for discussion - https://github.com/heptio/velero/pull/1804 (two-stage snapshot API) - https://github.com/heptio/velero/issues/1687 (keep status on restore) - https://github.com/heptio/velero/issues/1027 (self-signed certs) - https://github.com/heptio/velero/issues/1830 (including CRDs when using restrict) - https://github.com/heptio/velero/issues/964 (waiting for a CRD to be ready before restoring the CRs) - ## How can you get involved? - Join us in slack (Kubernetes - [#velero](https://kubernetes.slack.com/messages/velero)) and help answer fellow users' questions! - ## Contributor shoutouts! - ## Community questions: # Velero Community Meeting - August 20, 2019 [Previous meeting notes](https://github.com/heptio/velero-community) You can find the video recording of this meeting [on YouTube](https://youtu.be/WsLjG3DUvlk) Add your request, question or suggestion to [our issue list](https://github.com/heptio/velero-community/issues) - ## What have we been working on? - v1.1-beta.x bug fixes - thanks for help from testers! - [steve] https://github.com/heptio/velero/issues/192 - clone PV when remapping namespace - [Nolan] https://github.com/heptio/velero/pull/1748 - Properly set namespace for invoking in-tree plugins - [Carlisia] #vmwarecodehouse + Article about Velero - ## What's coming up? - v1.1 release - targeting Thursday - [v1.2 scope definition](https://github.com/heptio/velero#workspaces/velero-5c59c15e39d47b774b5864e3/board?milestones=v1.2%232019-10-31&filterLogic=any&repos=99143276&showPipelineDescriptions=false) in progress - continued work to bring restic integration to GA - CSI snapshot integration - move existing cloud provider plugins out of tree - R&D for encryption at rest - feature flags - we're moving to monthly community meetings! (1st Tuesdays) - ## How can you get involved? - User survey closing soon! https://velero.io/survey - Join us in slack (Kubernetes - [#velero](https://kubernetes.slack.com/messages/velero)) and help answer fellow users' questions! - ## Contributor shoutouts! - @betta1 - include object storage prefix in backup storage location map of config data - Nicolas Kowenski - documentation fix for helm install commands - @code-chris - docs fix for port-forwarding commands - Dylan Murray and Scott Seago - testing beta.1 and finding bugs! - ## Community questions: - # Velero Community Meeting - August 6, 2019 [Previous meeting notes](https://github.com/heptio/velero-community) You can find the video recording of this meeting [on YouTube](LINK) Add your request, question or suggestion to [our issue list](https://github.com/heptio/velero-community/issues) - ## What have we been working on? - [adnan] `velero install` requests/limits - [adnan] backup resource list - [steve] https://github.com/heptio/velero/pull/1705 design doc for copying PVs when remapping namespaces during restore - [carlisia] If you are going to VMworld, 3 sessions will be featuring Velero: https://my.vmworld.com/widget/vmware/vmworld19us/us19catalog?search=velero - [carlisia] PR out that restores using PodVolumeBackups resources (instead of using pod annotations) - ## What's coming up? - v1.1.0-beta.1! - ## How can you get involved? - Let us know how you use Velero! https://github.com/heptio/velero/issues/1327 - Join us in Slack (Kubernetes - [#velero](https://kubernetes.slack.com/messages/velero)) and help answer fellow users' questions! - Take the [Velero user survey](https://velero.io/survey) - ## Contributor shoutouts! - @carthewd - add support for JSON log output (https://github.com/heptio/velero/pull/1654) - ## Community questions: - # Velero Community Meeting - July 16, 2019 [Previous meeting notes](https://github.com/heptio/velero-community) You can find the video recording of this meeting [on YouTube](LINK) Add your request, question or suggestion to [our issue list](https://github.com/heptio/velero-community/issues) - ## What have we been working on? - [Tom] Velero User Survey - Launching soon! - [Tom] Velero CNCF Webinar - https://www.cncf.io/event/cncf-webinar-series-kubernetes-backup-and-migration-strategies-using-project-velero/ - [Steve] plugin to remap storage classes on restore - demo - [Nolan] Our CSI support proposal is up! Please give us your feedback. - https://github.com/heptio/velero/pull/1661 - [Steve] design proposal for running each backup/restore in its own worker pod - please provide feedback! (https://github.com/heptio/velero/pull/1653) - [Carlisia] Restic stuff: - 1) Adding the pod volume backup to object storage, have it synched, and use that as the backup source for pod volumes (as opposed to doing backups using the annotation on the pod): https://github.com/heptio/velero/issues/1169 - 2) "add restic stale lock checking": https://github.com/heptio/velero/issues/1511 - ## What's coming up? - v1.1 release ~end of summer - ## How can you get involved? - Let us know how you use Velero! https://github.com/heptio/velero/issues/1327 - Good first issues: https://github.com/heptio/velero/labels/Good%20first%20issue - Other help wanted: https://github.com/heptio/velero/labels/Help%20wanted - Join us in slack (Kubernetes - [#velero](https://kubernetes.slack.com/messages/velero)) and help answer fellow users' questions! - ## Contributor shoutouts! - @ThoTischner - better documenting requirements for using Velero + restic on OpenShift - @Prajyot-Parab - adding support for ppc64le - @jwmatthews - bug fix in `velero version` command - @tlkamp - add pod annotations flag to `velero install` - ## Community questions: - # Velero Community Meeting - July 2, 2019 [Previous meeting notes](https://github.com/heptio/velero-community) You can find the video recording of this meeting [on YouTube](LINK) Add your request, question or suggestion to [our issue list](https://github.com/heptio/velero-community/issues) - ## What have we been working on? - @nrb - CSI snapshot prototype plugins - Please give it a test! https://github.com/heptio/velero-csi-plugin/ - Adding restic support for CSI volumes in the meantime - @carlisia - back from KubeCon Shanghai, picking back up with Restic GA issues (see: https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/velero-5c59c15e39d47b774b5864e3/board?labels=restic%20-%20ga&repos=99143276,112385197,150626909&showLabels=false&showEstimates=false&showMilestones=false&showPipelineDescriptions=false&showReleases=false) - @carlisia - demo a cluster migration - ## What's coming up? - https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/velero-5c59c15e39d47b774b5864e3/board?repos=99143276,112385197,150626909 - Velero CNCF Webinar - July 18, 2019 9:00a PDT - ## How can you get involved? - Velero User Survey - Let us know how you use Velero! https://github.com/heptio/velero/issues/1327 - Join us in slack (Kubernetes - [#velero](https://kubernetes.slack.com/messages/velero)) and help answer fellow users' questions! - ## Community questions: - Will the velero-csi-plugin eventually replace the blockstore plugin ? And the object store plugin for velero will evolve on its own ? # Velero Community Meeting - June 18, 2019 [Previous meeting notes](https://github.com/heptio/velero-community) You can find the video recording of this meeting [on YouTube](LINK) Add your request, question or suggestion to [our issue list](https://github.com/heptio/velero-community/issues) - ## What have we been working on? - [nolan] CSI snapshot plugin prototype demo - [CSI prototype plugin](https://github.com/heptio/velero-csi-plugin/) - [steve] https://github.com/heptio/velero/pull/1517 -- read-only storage locations demo - [carlisia] Improving restic usability - ## What's coming up? - https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/velero-5c59c15e39d47b774b5864e3/board?repos=99143276,112385197,150626909 - ## How can you get involved? - Let us know how you use Velero! https://github.com/heptio/velero/issues/1327 - Join us in slack (Kubernetes - [#velero](https://kubernetes.slack.com/messages/velero)) and help answer fellow users' questions! - ## Contributor shoutouts! - @guilhem (https://github.com/heptio/velero/pull/1428) - support wildcards for includes/excludes - @pranavgaikwad (https://github.com/heptio/velero/pull/1548) - add support for multiple AWS profiles in credentials file - ## Community questions: - # Velero Community Meeting - May 7, 2019 [Previous meeting notes](https://github.com/heptio/velero-community) You can find the video recording of this meeting [on YouTube](LINK) Add your request, question or suggestion to [our issue list](https://github.com/heptio/velero-community/issues) - ## What have we been working on? - v1.0.0-beta.1 is out! - https://github.com/heptio/velero/releases/tag/v1.0.0-beta.1 - Add PartiallyFailed phase for restores (#1389, @skriss) - Add PartiallyFailed phase for backups, log + continue on errors during backup process (#1386, @skriss) - Switch from restic stats to restic snapshots for checking restic repository existence (#1416, @skriss) - Disallow bucket names starting with '-' (#1407, @nrb) - Shorten label values when they're longer than 63 characters (#1392, @anshulc) - Fail backup if it already exists in object storage. (#1390, @ncdc,carlisia) - Install command: Use latest image tag if no version information is provided at build time (#1439, @nrb) - GCP: add optional 'project' config to volume snapshot location for if snapshots are in a different project than the IAM account (#1405, @skriss) - Azure: restore disks with zone information if it exists (#1298, @sylr) - Replace config/ with examples/ in release tarball (#1406, @skriss) - restic integration will be "beta" as of v1.0. - stablizing and updating of the Helm chart - CI/CD fixes - CRD fixes - Azure secret changes (using a secrets file instead of environment variables) - ## What's coming up? - v1.0.0 GA release - May 21 - Upgrade process -- https://heptio.github.io/velero/v1.0.0-beta.1/upgrade-to-1.0 - Post-1.0 planning - CSI snapshot integration - bringing restic integration to GA - much more - ## How can you get involved? - Let us know how you use Velero! https://github.com/heptio/velero/issues/1327 - Join us in slack (Kubernetes - [#velero](https://kubernetes.slack.com/messages/velero)) and help answer fellow users' questions! - Let us know what features you're interested in seeing in Velero 1.1+! - ## Contributor shoutouts! - @sylr - add support for Azure AZ disks - @fabito - add validation to `velero backup download` command - ## Community questions: - None during meeting. See you in a couple of weeks! # Velero Community Meeting - April 16, 2019 [Previous meeting notes](https://github.com/heptio/velero-community) Recording: LINK - ## What have we been working on? - [first v1.0.0 alpha](https://github.com/heptio/velero/releases/tag/v1.0.0-alpha.1)! - container image: `gcr.io/heptio-images/velero:v1.0.0-alpha.1` - [Steve] revisions to backup/restore phases - https://github.com/heptio/velero/issues/1371 - [Nolan] wrapping up install command and reviewing the v0.11.0 Helm chart - [Carlisia] Plugin name collision and protobuf refactoring - ## What's coming up? - remaining must-have items for v1.0: https://github.com/heptio/velero/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aopen+label%3A%22P1+-+Important%22++milestone%3Av1.0.0 - ## How can you get involved? - Let us know how you use Velero! https://github.com/heptio/velero/issues/1327 - Join us in slack (Kubernetes - [#velero](https://kubernetes.slack.com/messages/velero)) and help answer fellow users' questions! - Test out v1.0.0 alpha! - Plugins interfaces have changed - try them out! (See https://github.com/heptio/velero-plugin-example/) - Try the install command (See https://github.com/heptio/velero/pull/1376 for in-progress docs) - Try the updated Helm chart (https://github.com/helm/charts/pull/12031) - Backups made prior to v0.11.0 are not supported - Migration support coming in v0.11.1 (https://github.com/heptio/velero/pull/1360) - ## Contributor shoutouts! - @amanw / James King - disable specific controllers via CLI flag - @ipochi - update docs for restic + RancherOS - @sseago - allow restore item actions to skip restoring an item - @fabito - add prometheus metrics for backup deletion - @faiq - add notice that current plugin examples are for master, not v0.11.0 - @josephgorse - working on the v0.11.0 Helm chart rename - ## Community questions: -

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