CDF Interoperability SIG Meetings (sig-interoperability)

###### tags: `SIG Interoperability` # CDF Interoperability SIG Meetings (sig-interoperability) [![HacmKD documents](https://hackmd.io/badge.svg)](https://hackmd.io/HuufSDMaTPyb3qxkyBKg3A?edit) ## Quick links * [Logistics](#Logistics) * [Meeting Recordings](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2KXbZ9-EY9QxICOnONBFPn_cYfJ8BsaG) * [Agenda and Notes](#Agenda-and-Notes) * [2023-09-21 Meeting](#September-21-2023) * [2023-09-07 Meeting](#September-7-2023) * [2023-08-17 Meeting](#August-17-2023) * [2023-08-03 Meeting](#August-3-2023) * Pause for Summer Break * [2023-06-15 Meeting](#June-15-2023) * [2023-06-01 Meeting](#June-1-2023) * [2023-05-23 Meeting](#May-23-2023) * [2023-05-18 Meeting](#May-18-2023) * [2023-05-04 Meeting](#May-4-2023) * [2023-04-20 Meeting](#April-20-2023) * [2023-04-06 Meeting](#April-6-2023) * [2023-03-16 Meeting](#March-16-2023) * 2023-03-02 Meeting](Cancelled) * [2023-02-02 Meeting](#February-2-2023)(Cancelled) * [2023-01-19 Meeting](#January-19-2023) * 2022-12-15/2023-01-05 Meetings Cancelled for Winter Break * [2022-12-01 Meeting](#December-1-2022) * [2022-11-17 Meeting](#November-17-2022) * 2022-11-03 Meeting (Cancelled) * [2022-10-20 Meeting](#October-20-2022) * [2022-10-06 Meeting](#October-6-2022) * [2022-09-15 Meeting](#September-15-2022) * [2022-09-01 Meeting](#September-1-2022) * [2022-08-18 Meeting](#August-18-2022) * [2022-08-04 Meeting](#August-4-2022) * [2022-07-21 Meeting](#July-21-2022) * [2022-07-07 Meeting](#July-7-2022) * [2022-06-16 Meeting](#June-16-2022) * [2022-06-02 Meeting](#June-2-2022) * 2022-05-19 Meeting (Cancelled) * 2022-05-05 Meeting (Cancelled) * [2022-04-21 Meeting](#April-21-2022) * [2022-04-07 Meeting](#April-7-2022) * [2022-03-17 Meeting](#March-17-2022) * [2022-03-03 Meeting](#March-3-2022) * [2022-02-17 Meeting](#February-17-2022) * [2022-02-03 Meeting](#February-3-2022) * [2022-01-20 Meeting](#January-20-2022) ## Logistics * **Meeting notes on HackMD.io**: https://hackmd.io/@cdfoundation/ry3TTB5DL * **When**: First and third Thursdays at [3pm UTC](https://time.is/3pm_in_UTC) during summer time and at [4pm UTC](https://time.is/4pm_in_UTC) during winter time). * **Zoom Bridge**: https://zoom.us/j/827082528?pwd=RlN5OUZtVVBuZGZRY0NBRnZyZ0NJQT09 * **Zoom International dial-in numbers**: https://zoom.us/zoomconference * **Meeting Recordings**: [CDF Youtube Channel SIG Interoperability Playlist](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2KXbZ9-EY9QxICOnONBFPn_cYfJ8BsaG) * **CDF Public Calendar**: [here](https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=linuxfoundation.org_mhf0kmgedn67ihni8r129avp24%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America%2FLos_Angeles) * **Past Presentations in CDF Presentations Repository**: https://github.com/cdfoundation/presentations/tree/master/sig-interoperability * **Presentation Schedule**: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Owg_I52WEXzqF8g_lX6OTdwbHkH4Z2-7TBA7eCSVMqY/edit * **2021 Meeting Minutes**: https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-interoperability/blob/master/docs/meetings_2021.md * **2020 Meeting Minutes**: https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-interoperability/blob/master/docs/meetings_2020.md ## Upcoming Talks Looking for more! Feel free to suggest ideas in the Interoperability SIG slack channel. ## Agenda and Notes Meeting agenda and notes are kept on [HackMD.io](https://hackmd.io/@cdfoundation/ry3TTB5DL) where everyone can add new topics to the agenda for upcoming meetings or take notes during the meetings. Please click edit button to edit the document. If you are looking for 2021 minutes of meetings, please take a look at [Meetings 2021 document](https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-interoperability/blob/master/docs/meetings_2021.md) in SIG Interoperability repository on GitHub. ### September 21, 2023 * Dadisi Sanyika, Apple * Melissa McKay, JFrog #### Agenda & Notes * Focus Topics * Whitepaper * Dadisi & Melissa getting together 9/29 * Reference Architecture * Visualization * Action Item: Define intent * Begin to Collect Use Case * Consider different groups - what's needed * DevOps * Developers * Managers * Other Business Units * Metrics * Value Stream * Change Management * Performance ### September 7, 2023 * Dadisi Sanyika, Apple * Fatih Degirmenci, CDF #### Agenda & Notes * Open Items * Mission Statement / Outreach / Marketing / Whitepaper * Roadmap * Setting more inclusive aspirations * How to engage with folks new to the CDF * Near Term * Interoperability Use Case Primer / Where to get started * How to get started woth Visualization * Useful Metrics * Basic Value Stream * Mid-term * Build from what you've learned * How to DSL discussion * Increasing Engagment * Interoperability let's you replace different * License changes may impact projects * Are you competing with the project owner? * What is the impact of being a vendor using the projects? * What is the availability alternative solutions? * This is new to open source * Fork the project before the change in license * Foundations represent pre-competetive collaboration * No risk of the trend * IP is assigned to the non-profit foundation * The CLA assigns the copyright to the foundation * Open Discussion ### August 17, 2023 * Dadisi Sanyika, Apple * Fatih Degirmenci, CDF * Damian Curry, NGINX * ADDME #### Agenda & Notes * Open Items * Mission Statement * Roadmap -- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDd1avQWsAEVrrz?format=jpg * Near term * Visulization * Metrics * Basic Value Stream * How can you contribute immediately * How to gain a sense of inclusion to the project? * What can I do to contribute? * Tell us the problems you have * Fail fast -- discover what can be done * Mid-term * Discovery actionable issue from engagements * Interoperability DSL * Future * Compliance to CDF standards * Whitepaper * Dadisi Contribution Update (White Paper) * Engagement Materials * Reference Architecture / Paltform Engineering * [CD Reference Architecture - Capabilities](/A-VRf2cNTOuO_ZULSIb5pQ) * Supply Chain Topic -- Action Items * Email SIG Chairs * Increasing Engagement * Interoperablity DSL Goals * Challenges: * CDEvents is declartive *not* imperative * Producers emit events *not* consume * Message Broker or Bus needed * Interoperability vs Integration * Security, Identity, Authorization * What is possible? * Standardization of core CD processes with adherence to messaging format * Value Stream Management * Show the options * What the baseline * Where can you progress * Reference architecture should progress thru small use cases to enterprise * Show the benefits early in the progression * Raise the problem space awareness * Start at the broad problem description * Create tracks around for the Interoperability topics * (Alternative) CDF Event/Messaging Bus? * This can wait * Open Discussion ### August 3, 2023 * Melissa McKay, JFrog * Dadisi Sanyika, Apple * Fatih Degirmenci, CDF * Andrea Frittoli, IBM * ADDME #### Agenda & Notes * Welcome back! * Open items * Mission Statement/Roadmap * Whitepaper * Dadisi waiting on legal approval - revisit next meeting * Concrete material to share with community & drive engagement * Interoperability Relaunch Topic Discussion * Reference Architecture / Platform Engineering * Good starting point for following topics & for relaunch * Collect the digital assets and begin! * app.diagrams.net - Andrea has good starting points * Reference Architecture Documentation on Best Practices * https://bestpractices.cd.foundation/architecture/capabilities/ * Possible identify functional capabilities & diagram * Other efforts ongoing * Open SSF * VSMI * [CNOE](https://github.com/cnoe-io) * Andrea: gathering ideas/materials in doc before PTO * Visualization * Metrics * Pipeline DSL * Risk Management * Value Stream Management * Currently driven by SIG Events but has tight relation to overall interoperability area * Considerations about content: * Remain holistic * Set context (org type, different titles) * Recognize differing needs/requirements * Start with SOMETHING to get community feedback * Supply Chain Topic Discussion * Get email out from current co-chairs about combining groups * Melissa: contact co-chairs * Increasing Engagement / Promotion (review ideas from previous meetings) * Draft email to re-engage/re-introduce the group * Educate about the Interoperability SIG * Next meeting - speaker on Interoperability? * History & accomplishments thus far * What input are we looking for? give examples for new folks * Integration vs interoperability * We have slides for this! Fatih: [KubeCon Road to Interoperability presentation](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/16t0Fpa5a5Jplc6AQ1OD3jyG290OvtdS-0aSiqeIx5N0/edit?usp=sharing) * Community outreach * New marketing material * Blog * Write new or reintroduce [blog from 2020](https://cd.foundation/blog/2021/01/19/cdf-sig-interoperability-2020-year-in-review/) * Individual & CDF social * Any upcoming speaking events? * CDF Summit - Spain * Distribute whitepaper at events * Badges? * Regular communication * Surveys * Best Practices Workshop? * Engage Workshop Group ### June 15, 2023 * Melissa McKay, JFrog * Dadisi Sanyika, Apple * Andrea Frittoli, IBM * ADDME #### Agenda & Notes * Nominations - co-chair announcement * Congratulations to Dadisi! Melissa: will update mailing list, etc * Continue discussion on Interoperability mission & roadmap * Reference Architecture work * beginning state - possible involvement by NGINX * Bringing in Supply Chain SIG? * Focus our resources into a single SIG * Reserve time for Supply Chain discussion and re-evaluate moving to a separate group if it makes sense * Relauch Plans (actions prior to Aug 3) * Dadisi working on writing * mission statement * Kubecon submission? * brainstorm some ideas - CFP closes the 18th * possible reference architecture submission? (but risky) * Share with slack & mailing list about relaunch plans, vaca plans, etc * Setup meeting tomorrow about ref arch ### June 1, 2023 * Melissa McKay, JFrog * Dadisi Sanyika, Apple * Fatih Degirmenci, CDF #### Agenda & Notes * Announcement: nomination for new co-chair * Justin stepping down * Open nominations * Vacation plans? Plan for pausing meeting * We will be pausing in July, so save relaunch efforts for August * Continue discussion on Interoperability mission & roadmap * Dadisi and Melissa met on May 23rd to begin this update process * Platform engineering - is there a better way to bring in tools within existing platforms * Visualization * Metrics * CD Events - linking, attestation * Continue discussion on how to increase engagement * Blog * Write new or reintroduce [blog from 2020](https://cd.foundation/blog/2021/01/19/cdf-sig-interoperability-2020-year-in-review/) * Community outreach * Individual social & speaking events * Reintroduce & educate the Interoperability SIG * History & accomplishments thus far * What input are we looking for? give examples for new folks * Integration vs interoperability * We have slides for this! Fatih: [KubeCon Road to Interoperability presentation](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/16t0Fpa5a5Jplc6AQ1OD3jyG290OvtdS-0aSiqeIx5N0/edit?usp=sharing) * Whitepaper * Target August 3rd for promotion and relaunch ### May 23, 2023 * Dadisi * Melissa ### Notes - Roadmap Review * What's the mission of the Interoperability SIG? * Increase membership * new marketing material * draft email to re-engage/re-introduce the group * Teaching/Education * badges * best practices workshops? * engage Workshop SIG * Pipeline DSL ### May 18, 2023 * Melissa McKay, JFrog * ADDME #### Agenda & Notes * Announcements, Updates * CDCon recap * SIG Interoperability Roadmap Review and Update * Time got away from us at cdCon + GitOpsCon * Interoperability Whitepaper * The work to update the whitepaper is ongoing ### May 4, 2023 #### Participants * Melissa McKay, JFrog * Fatih Degirmenci, CDF * Dadisi Sanyika, Apple * ADDME #### Agenda & Notes * TAG App Delivery and CDEvents Collaboration * A few CDF community members joined the [CNCF TAG App Delivery](https://github.com/cncf/tag-app-delivery) Meeting on May 3rd and discussed potential opportunities to collaborate * The discussion is still in its early phases but both communities are interested in and excited to collaborate * One of the initial steps CNCF TAG App Delivery is to update [Pod-tato Head](https://github.com/podtato-head/podtato-head) project to introduce CDEvents there * The consensus within the group was to reconvene in about a month to continue discussions * Meeting minutes are available [here](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OykvqvhSG4AxEdmDMXilrupsX2n1qCSJUWwTc3I7AOs/edit#heading=h.wohj84vlpmok) * SIG Interoperability Roadmap * The work to update the roadmap will start during cdCon + GitOpsCon * Interoperability Whitepaper * The work to update the whitepaper is ongoing * Reaching out to others * Dagger #### Action Items * ### April 20, 2023 #### Participants * Melissa McKay, JFrog * Dadisi Sanyika, Apple * Victor #### Agenda & Notes * Sponsorship of the SIG * Define agenda for upcoming meetings, including speakers we may want to come speak. * Goals of the SIG this year? * Research other attempts at this (Surely they exist!) * Consider Pulumi, Dagger, others? * ACTION: Dadisi speak with Apple folks * Get started on CI/CD Specification * Produce relevant diagrams * Perhaps focus on CI only first * Consider an initial implementation(Review [Dagger Recording](https://youtu.be/65WjUohcYEQ?list=PL2KXbZ9-EY9QxICOnONBFPn_cYfJ8BsaG&t=400)) * Work on getting buyin from well known projects * Complete [whitepaper](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o5jHbuEQuspwYOruVB4L5-rG8E1wQm5chq8QN7BrrBs/edit#)? * Dadisi has started on breaking this content up, cleaning it up for a specific audience * Working with Fatih * ACTION ITEMS * Melissa: cleanup notes, cleanup recording list, basic housekeeping. ### April 6, 2023 #### Participants * Melissa McKay, JFrog * Fatih Degirmenci, CDF #### Agenda & Notes Moved the following agenda to the next meeting due to time change and low attendance * Sponsorship of the SIG * Define agenda for upcoming meetings, including speakers we may want to come speak. * Goals of the SIG this year? * Complete [whitepaper](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o5jHbuEQuspwYOruVB4L5-rG8E1wQm5chq8QN7BrrBs/edit#)? ### March 16, 2023 #### Participants * Melissa McKay, JFrog * ADDME #### Agenda & Notes * Time Change - due to low attendance, discussed general Interoperability SIG background ### February 2, 2023 This meeting was cancelled. Updates on existing action items are deferred to the next meeting on Feb 16. ### January 19, 2023 #### Participants * Ramin Akhbari, Salesforce * Justin Abrahms, eBay * Melissa McKay, JFrog * Emil Bäckmark, Ericsson #### Agenda & Notes * Announcements! * CDCon CFP is OPEN * https://cd.foundation/blog/2023/01/11/cdcon-2023-call-for-papers-now-open/ * go-scm update * #go-scm channel in CDF slack * VSMI update * [Value Stream Mapping (VSM) Interoperability Technical Committee](https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=vsmi) * Andrea met with Helen for an intro * The orgs that sponsor the VSMI produce software in the are of value management (from feature description to value to users) and they have a big interoperability issue * their interop group is looking at what exists, especially in open source, to find what where synergies may exists * There seems to be an overlap with the interop / cdevents missions * Call scheduled with them next week (24th) to intro the CDF and discuss common goals/missions * [Whitepaper](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o5jHbuEQuspwYOruVB4L5-rG8E1wQm5chq8QN7BrrBs/edit#) discussion * needs an editing pass * clarify goal - CTA * purely educational, a description, something else? * is this a solution looking for a problem? * REAL examples of times when Interoperability has been a problem are needed * API section is empty * Update to current state of the world (CDEvents references) * What to do with exiting contributors? Rewrite? * Define agenda for upcoming meetings, including speakers we may want to come speak. * Goals of the SIG this year? * Send reminders of meetings with agenda consistently at beginning of the week * Start a discussion in slack formalizing our goals * Update on CDEvents * [testkube.io](https://testkube.io/) is interested in CDEvents * introduced themselves & presented at CDSummit in Detroit * https://cdsummit2022.sched.com/event/1BP0p/why-kubernetes-applications-require-a-new-approach-to-testing-using-testkube-bruno-lopes-kubeshop * contribution to our common Interoperability vocabulary in the context of testing may be valuable * Follow up * Melissa - update past presentation SIG documentation: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Owg_I52WEXzqF8g_lX6OTdwbHkH4Z2-7TBA7eCSVMqY/edit#heading=h.lx7kiadw52fq * Action Items: * Melissa: form working group around universal specification for pipeline * Possible Members: Ramin & other colleagues?, Fatih? * Justin: discuss with Fatih about primary goal of whitepaper * Justin/Melissa: continue whitepaper review * Justin: cleanup/archive our notes * Andrea: reach out to testkube project to present to Interoperability group ### December 1, 2022 #### Participants * Melissa McKay, JFrog * Justin Abrahms, eBay * Fatih Degirmenci, CDF #### Agenda & Notes * CDF Interoperability Whitepaper Update, All * Whitepaper will be further discussed during the meeting on January 19th. * Between now and the meeting, we will continue looking at it async to see what updates are needed. * go-scm Discussion * Will be presented at TOC meeting next week - Tues, Dec 6, 4pm UTC * History: project was forked under JenkinsX * Additional Topics * The [whitepaper](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o5jHbuEQuspwYOruVB4L5-rG8E1wQm5chq8QN7BrrBs/edit#), [the original SIG proposal](https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/pull/62), and previous conversations such as intent based pipelines, abstractions and so on could be discussed further. * There is also an opportunity to collaborate with [Value Stream Mapping (VSM) Interoperability Technical Committee](https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=vsmi) * Action Items: * Melissa - fix meeting time on CDF Public calendar, cancel next two meetings, and communicate via slack & email list that next meeting will be Jan 19th * Melissa - update past presentation SIG documentation: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Owg_I52WEXzqF8g_lX6OTdwbHkH4Z2-7TBA7eCSVMqY/edit#heading=h.lx7kiadw52fq * Justin, Fatih, Melissa - review whitepaper * Justin, Fatih, Melissa - populate new agenda items/topics for meeting discussions (see above) ### November 17, 2022 #### Participants * Justin Abrahms, eBay * Emil Bäckmark, Ericsson * Fatih Degirmenci, CDF * Terry Cox #### Agenda & Notes * CDF Interoperability Whitepaper, All * It would be good to refresh and simplify the whitepaper so it can be published. * The target date for publishing it could be 2023Q1 so we start the year with highlighting our efforts in the area. * v1: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bgr6EHhW4wUTphU8xyMg87qzSee43PEA_gGdMnPHq9Q/edit# * Feedback when it was originally prepping for release was "this isn't a whitepaper" * v2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o5jHbuEQuspwYOruVB4L5-rG8E1wQm5chq8QN7BrrBs/edit# * Removed case studies (dated, lack of point-of-contact) * Still a need for this paper to discuss the problem space * Some portions are partially addressed, but there are new emerging interoperability ideas/concerns * AI: Justin (with Melissa?) will push forward this document with a target of Q1 of 2023. * AI: Fatih to pre-flight the whitepaper idea w/ LF ### October 20, 2022 #### Participants * Justin Abrahms, eBay * Fatih Degirmenci, CDF * Fog Dong, KubeVela/Alibaba Cloud * Da Ying, KubeVela/Alibaba Cloud * Qingguo Zeng * Qiao Zhongpei * Sun Jianbo * Richard Kilmurray * Terry Cox * Vedran Zdesic #### Agenda & Notes * Presentation & Open Discussion [KubeVela](https://kubevela.io/) with Da Yin & Fog Dong ### October 6, 2022 #### Participants * Oliver Nocon, SAP * \<AddMe\> #### Agenda & Notes * Open Action Items, All * News/Announcements * Oct 20th: [KubeVela](https://kubevela.io/) * New Action Items * Presentation & Open Discussion: [FRSCA](https://buildsec.github.io/frsca/) with Parth Patel ### September 15, 2022 _This meeting was cancelled due to issues with Zoom._ ### September 1, 2022 #### Participants * Melissa McKay, JFrog * Andres Almiray * Justin Abrahms * Fatih Degirmenci * Kara de la Marck * Rajat Gupta * \<AddMe\> #### Agenda & Notes * Open Action Items, All * News/Announcements * New Action Items * Presentation & Open Discussion: [JReleaser](https://jreleaser.org/) with Andres Almiray ### August 18, 2022 #### Participants * Justin Abrahms, eBay * Andrea Frittoli, IBM * Fatih Degirmenci, CDF * Melissa McKay, JFrog * Andres Almiray * Kara de la Marck, CDF * Rajat Gupta, Jenkins X * \<AddMe\> #### Agenda & Notes * Open Action Items (outstanding from previous meetings) * Justin: [Intent based pipelines article](https://cd.foundation/blog/2022/07/13/help-wanted-intent-based-pipelines/) * possibly an abstraction layer between definition and implementation? * Take a look at [GitOps Toolkit - WeaveWorks](https://github.com/weaveworks/weave-gitops) * Possible follow up with tweet/etc * Melissa: Determine WHERE in the best practices site to add vocabulary documentation (https://bestpractices.cd.foundation/); Review Terry's suggestions from last meeting * Possibly Learn section or Resources? * Posting vendor specific information on the Best Practices site feels off, but perhaps linking via a References section makes sense * Fatih & Ann Marie: address vocabulary split and conflicts in outstanding PRs * Waiting for review * Melissa/Justin: scheduling a presentation time for go-scm & FRSCA * Queries have gone to both for availability * CDEvents and Pipeline terminology alignment * Other announcements * JReleaser will be presenting Sep 1 * Our github default branch has been renamed from master to main - thank you Kara! * Future topics for the Interoperability SIG to consider (open discussion) * New Landscape Category * https://github.com/cdfoundation/cdf-landscape/issues/243 * Moving forward with adding new category (open to later name change) * New Action Items: * Andrea: Make PR for link back to tools doc from Best Practices site * https://github.com/cdfoundation/best-practices-site/pull/26 * Fatih: Give Justin a list of names of project maintainers * Justin: Reach out to project maintainers regarding Interoperability issues * Melissa: Start convo in slack channel(s) regarding new ideas for Interoperability topics ### August 4, 2022 #### Participants * Melissa McKay, JFrog * Kara de la Marck, CDF * Tim Miller, Kusari #### Agenda & Notes * Reference Architecture discussions will be continued in the Best Practices SIG (possibly a new working group) * New projects to present to the SIG * go-scm - [ACTION] agree on a scheduled time for presentation * JReleaser - schedule presentation Sep 1 * FRSCA Project - https://github.com/buildsec/frsca * [ACTION] - schedule a presentation * [CDF Landscape](https://github.com/cdfoundation/cdf-landscape) * We welcome PRs to add projects -- JReleaser now added * If you feel a category is missing, please raise an issue ### July 21, 2022 #### Participants * Justin Abrahms, eBay * Kara de la Marck, CDF * Fatih Degirmenci, CDF * Terry Cox #### Agenda & Notes * Reference Architecture chat * [deck around what a reference architecture is](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1SSSHPLSXEUgg0vu644zrZPvCW9sUYSBwzSCDO_fZtF8/edit#slide=id.g13b9833d9a3_0_28) * current docs/projects are "open source & bottom up" which don't take a hollistic view of the whole problem space * There are two camps, from user interviews: * folks who are steeped in CD culture * folks who have a loose grasp on what CD means but need some help understanding how to get value from it or get from where they are to where they need to be * The work will be to define the common patterns used in pipelines * The MLOps space, as an example, is not very well connected to traditional CD pipelines. * https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-mlops/blob/master/roadmap/2021/MLOpsRoadmap2021.md ### July 7, 2022 #### Participants * Justin Abrahms, eBay * Kara de la Marck, CDF * Melissa McKay, JFrog * Andrea Frittoli, IBM * Ann Marie Fred, Red Hat * \<AddMe\> #### Agenda and Notes * Introduction - Justin Abrahms, new Co-Chair * Presentation - Uffizzi by Josh Thurman * on demand environments in k8s * designed to work with any ci/cd platform * triggered by cd events (maybe also CDEvents??) * QUICK LINKS- * Open Source Repo https://github.com/UffizziCloud/uffizzi_app * Public Road Map https://github.com/UffizziCloud/roadmap * GHA https://github.com/UffizziCloud/preview-action * Uffizzi https://uffizzi.com/ * Docs https://docs.uffizzi.com. https://github.com/UffizziCloud/docs * Uffizzi Users Slack https://uffizzi.slack.com/join/shared_invite/zt-ffr4o3x0-J~0yVT6qgFV~wmGm19Ux9A#/shared-invite/email * Uffizzi Helm Chart https://artifacthub.io/packages/helm/uffizzi-app/uffizzi-app * Uffizzi Newsletter Sign-up. http://eepurl.com/hsws0b * Open Action Items * Justin: intent based pipelines article * Melissa: Determine WHERE in the best practices site to add vocabulary documentation (https://bestpractices.cd.foundation/); Review Terry's suggestions from last meeting * Fatih & Ann Marie: address vocabulary split and conflicts in outstanding PRs - move to early-August meeting * CDEvents and Pipeline terminology alignment (if time permits) - move to early-August meeting ### June 16, 2022 #### Participants * Melissa McKay, JFrog * Kara de la Marck, CDF * Andres Almiray * Josh Thurman * Jeremy Adams * Maria Ashby * Richard Kilmurray * Fatih Degirmenci * Andrea Frittoli * Brett Smith * \<addme\> #### Agenda and Notes * Presentation - dagger.io by Jeremy Adams * Open Discussion ### June 2, 2022 #### Participants * Melissa McKay, JFrog * Kara de la Marck, CDF * Ann Marie Fred, Red Hat * Jeremy Adams, Dagger * Justin Abrahms, eBay * Emil Bäckmark, Ericsson * Fatih Degirmenci * \<addme\> #### Agenda and Notes * Action Item Review, All * Jeremy Adams, Dagger.io - June 16th scheduled presentation * SIG Interoperability Co-chair nominations/elections * NOMINATION: Justin Abrahms, eBay * Ann Marie has [a talk repping this sig](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UoufcCfqYzcBsD2zUDaKPg9V3BBFTF4g/view?usp=sharing) next week at cdCon virtual ([sched session link](https://cdcon2022.sched.com/event/12vF9/virtual-session-continuous-integration-and-continuous-delivery-pipelines-for-beginners-and-managers-ann-marie-fred-red-hat)) and OpenInfra Summit Berlin! * [CDEventsCon wrap up blog post](https://cd.foundation/blog/2022/05/25/cdeventscon-2022-wrap-up/), including link to YouTube channel to all the talks and presentations at CDEventsCon * **ACTION ITEM:** Fatih & Ann Marie address vocabulary split and conflicts in outstanding PRs * **ACTION ITEM:** Melissa - Determine WHERE in the best practices site to add vocabulary documentation (https://bestpractices.cd.foundation/); Review Terry's suggestions from last meeting * **ACTION ITEM:** Melissa & Justin finish up article next week at cdCon ### April 21, 2022 #### Participants * Fatih Degirmenci, Ericsson Software Technology * Kara de la Marck, CDF * Melissa McKay, JFrog #### Agenda and Notes * Action Item Review, All * **ACTION ITEM:** Melissa still needs to reach out to dagger.io * **ACTION ITEM:** Justin/Melissa - wrap up intent driven pipeline thoughts for article * SIG Interoperability Co-chair nominations/elections * Look for email in the mailing list and submit your nominations! * Documentation Consult with Best Practices SIG - Terry Cox & Tara Hernandez * Web site in development: [https://deploy-preview-4--preview-site-cdf-bp.netlify.app/](https://deploy-preview-4--preview-site-cdf-bp.netlify.app/) * Web site in development: [https://deploy-preview-4--preview-site-cdf-bp.netlify.app/](https://deploy-preview-4--preview-site-cdf-bp.netlify.app/) * Web site in development: [https://deploy-preview-4--preview-site-cdf-bp.netlify.app/](https://deploy-preview-4--preview-site-cdf-bp.netlify.app/) * Web site in development: [https://deploy-preview-4--preview-site-cdf-bp.netlify.app/](https://deploy-preview-4--preview-site-cdf-bp.netlify.app/) * Consider audience - our current documentation is geared toward a more technical and implementation level * Step 1: link our current reference docs as they are in resources/references section * Keep our own copy for updates and maintenance in our own repo * Update the publication on Best Practices site periodically * **ACTION ITEM:** Kara to link intial resource docs * Consider higher level audience documentation (less detail) * What is the problem you are trying to solve??? * **ACTION ITEM:** Fatih will work on higher level documentation * Discussion about maturity models * [SLSA](https://slsa.dev/) * DORA metrics * Be careful about making value judgements based on maturity/effectiveness levels * \<addme\> ### April 7, 2022 #### Participants * Melissa McKay, JFrog * Fatih Degirmenci, Ericsson Software Technology * Mattias Linnér, Ericsson * Justin Abrahms, eBay * \<addme\> #### Agenda and Notes * Action Item Review, All * Open PR Reviews * [Pipeline step types proposal](https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-interoperability/pull/81) * [Initial proposal for pipeline stage terminology](https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-interoperability/pull/76) * ACTION ITEM: Fatih pinging all involved to resolve all items between now and next meeting, open issues where needed * Open Discussion * [What quality gates do you have?](https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-interoperability/discussions/83) * ACTION ITEM: Justin - begin composing documentation on Quality Gates (from discussion material) * Documentation considerations * Sync with Best Practices * Consider using HackMD * Split up the documentation resulting from most recent PRs into high level vs technical implementation details * ACTION ITEM: Melissa - reach out to Best Practices SIG on documentation (invite to meeting) * New Discussion * [Slack thread (in general channel)](https://cdeliveryfdn.slack.com/archives/CJQU6EHHP/p1648923213508359) * [Intent-based pipelines](https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-interoperability/discussions/91) * dagger.io * take a look at (for inspiration): - [shipa](https://shipa.io/miscellaneous/kubernetes-dagger-deployment-with-shipa/)? - [Crossplane & Kubernetes Workshop](https://devrel.shipa.io/cp-idp-workshop) - [Jenkins X](https://jenkins-x.io/blog/2020/11/11/accelerate-tekton/) * ACTION ITEM: Melissa - reach out to dagger.io for a possible presentation, come up with CI yaml (ideal example) * ACTION ITEM: Justin - work on blog post about intent based pipelines (the high level concept) * \<addme\> ### March 17, 2022 #### Participants * Melissa McKay, JFrog * Mattias Linnér, Ericsson * Mike Beemer, Dynatrace * Fatih Degirmenci, Ericsson Software Technology * \<addme\> #### Agenda and Notes * Action Item Review, All * Meeting time change * Meeting time change to 15:00 UTC to match up with seasonal time changes * Melissa will update on the public calendar * Presentation on the Open Feature Project by Michael Beemer * Open standard for feature flag management * https://open-feature.github.io/\<addme\> * \<addme\> ### March 3, 2022 #### Participants * Kara de la Marck, CDF * Fatih Degirmenci, Ericsson Software Technology * Justin Abrahms, eBay * Mattias Linnér, Ericsson * Melissa McKay, JFrog * Ann Marie Fred, Red Hat #### Agenda and Notes * Action Item Review, All * [cdCon](https://events.linuxfoundation.org/cdcon/) Updates, CFP, Kara de la Marck * SIG Interoperability Co-chair nominations/elections * Melissa McKay has been nominated as new SIG Interoperability Chair and has accepted! Welcome Melissa McKay! 🎉 * Pipeline [Steps](https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-interoperability/pull/81)/[Stages](https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-interoperability/pull/76)/[Quality Gates](https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-interoperability/discussions/83) and Software Supply Chain, All * [CNCF Security TAG Software Supply Chain Best Practices](https://github.com/cncf/tag-security/blob/main/supply-chain-security/supply-chain-security-paper/CNCF_SSCP_v1.pdf) * [Secure Software Factory RFC](https://docs.google.com/document/d/15M_Mzfqy634E_sqoslmOXsZJl4TedpbXpBjOfz-hnXk/edit#) * [SLSA](https://slsa.dev/) * [in-toto](https://in-toto.io) * Pipeline certification/badge discussion * SRE, DevOps, Quality criteria * [Operate First](https://www.operate-first.cloud/) * [Flow Framework](https://flowframework.org/) ### February 17, 2022 #### Participants * Kara de la Marck, CDF * Fatih Degirmenci, Ericsson Software Technology * Anders Eknert, Styra * Jeremy Stanley, OpenDev/Zuul * Melissa McKay, JFrog * Mattias Linnér, Ericsson * Justin Abrahms, eBay * \<addme\> #### Agenda and Notes * Action Item Review, All * SIG Interoperability Co-chair nominations/elections, Fatih Degirmenci, All * [cdCon](https://events.linuxfoundation.org/cdcon/) Updates, CFP, Kara de la Marck * cdCon CFP is open until midnight 18 February -- TOMORROW!!: https://events.linuxfoundation.org/cdcon/program/cfp/#overview - Please submit a talk even if you don’t know if your company is sponsoring travel yet. - We do ask that speakers be at cdCon in person and present their talks live at cdCon. * If you think you may attend cdCon and would like to participate in a CDEvents Contributor Summit, [please fill out this form](https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeZGMEGldtkrj1viMcT9nQgAgHZVkIlzQZ45aTvN74992Mawg/viewform?usp=sf_link) * For each Contributor Summit, we should normally be able to provide breakfast, snacks at breaks, and beverages throughout the day. :coffee: :croissant: - So it is important for CDF to have an estimate of number of attendees * CDEvents * Repo: https://github.com/cdevents * CDEvents logo finalised: https://github.com/cdfoundation/artwork/tree/main/cdevents * CDEvents website (beta): https://cdevents.dev/ * CDEvents are on the landscape 😄 https://landscape.cd.foundation/ * And on CDF website, listed with all the other projects https://cd.foundation/projects/ * KubeCon update: CDEvents will have a full day co-located at KubeCon EU 🥳 * https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-events/issues/115 * This will be officially announced soon. If you will be at [KubeCon EU](https://events.linuxfoundation.org/kubecon-cloudnativecon-europe/) please do join us! * Discussion on Quality Gates: * GH Discussion: https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-interoperability/discussions/83 * Anders Eknert, from Styra, is joining us to discuss quality gates. ### February 3, 2022 #### Participants * Kara de la Marck, CDF * Justin Abrahms, eBay * Oliver Nocon, SAP * fungi * \<addme\> #### Agenda and Notes * Action Item Review, All * [cdCon](https://events.linuxfoundation.org/cdcon/) Updates, CFP, Kara de la Marck * cdCon CFP is open until midnight 18 February: https://events.linuxfoundation.org/cdcon/program/cfp/#overview - Please submit a talk even if you don’t know if your company is sponsoring travel yet. - We do ask that speakers be at cdCon in person and present their talks live at cdCon. - However, restrictions are loosening around the world and travelling to cdCon will likely be possible for most individuals (although regretably maybe not for all) * We are currently organising the Contributor Summits for cdCon 2022. * The Contributor Summits are focused on CDF projects: https://cd.foundation/projects/ * For all CDF projects that are interested in hosting a Contributor Summit at cdCon, please appoint a lead organiser/host for your summit and have that individual fill out the form below: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfJGFdQhFAbScBt3y3sW0WCQMl903X9T3ycmix0PpB2Zq8aoQ/viewform * The deadline to fill out the form and formally request space at cdCon is February 28. * For each Contributor Summit, we should normally be able to provide breakfast, snacks at breaks, and beverages throughout the day. :coffee: :croissant: * Fosdem is this weekend!! https://fosdem.org/2022/ * [CI/CD devroom](https://fosdem.org/2022/schedule/track/continuous_integration_and_continuous_deployment/) * SIG Interoperability Co-chair nominations/elections, Fatih Degirmenci, All * New work around terminology for pipeline [stages](https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-interoperability/pull/76) and [steps](https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-interoperability/pull/81) - see links to PRs. Ann Marie Fred * Updating SIG Interoperability Roadmap, Reminder * Link to the document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uf3sb-WJUp3Acd3WYL5SvgVECHevonufJOxd6KftOxc/edit# * Software Supply Chain * Standardized Metadata * Artifact Handling * Policy Driven CD * CDEvents * Would be interesting to outline or create a catalogue of quality gates. * Gather a list of what quality gates companies and teams are using in the wild. * Mini case studies for different quality gates would be interesting. * How to gather: Survey? Shoutout on channels? See action items below. * Relates to best practices * Also, would be interesting to consider how to evaluate pipelines (not testing the actual pipeline or security concerns, necessarily), but really what should a pipeline contain. Again, very much a best practices question. * What signals do we use for quality? * execution speed of pipelines, etc * How many quality checks, ideal range * how do the quality checks bucket -- interesting to see if this becomes evident once catalogue created (eg, gates in place pre and post production/rollout) * \<addme\> #### Action Items * [Justin Abrahms to create discussion on Interop SIG repo on what quality gates on being used by teams.](https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-interoperability/discussions/83) * Kara to make sure CDF publicizes the discussion. * Kara to bring in others, from Styra, etc, to discuss how they see quality gates being used in practice. ### January 20, 2022 #### Participants * Fatih Degirmenci, Ericsson Software Technology * Kara de la Marck, CDF * Jeremy Stanley, OpenDev/Zuul * Ann Marie Fred, Red Hat * Emil Backmark, Ericsson * Mattias Linnér, Ericsson * Jalander Ramagiri, Ericsson Software Technology * Ramin Akhbari, Salesforce * Erik Sternerson, doWhile * Justin Abrahms, eBay #### Agenda and Notes * Action Item Review, All * cdCon Updates, CFP, Kara de la Marck * cdCon CFP is open: https://events.linuxfoundation.org/cdcon/program/cfp/#overview - Suggestion from Kara is to submit a talk even if we don’t know if we’re allowed to travel yet * SIG Interoperability Co-chair nominations/elections, Fatih Degirmenci, All * Open Infra Summit Berlin, Jeremy Stanley * CFP for upcoming Open Infra Summit is open * There is a CI/CD track as part of summit * CFP is available here: https://cfp.openinfra.dev/app/berlin-2022 * SupplyChainSecurityCon * It will be colocated in Open Source Summit NA * CFP is available here: https://events.linuxfoundation.org/open-source-summit-north-america/about/supplychainsecuritycon/ * New work around terminology for pipeline [stages](https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-interoperability/pull/76) and [steps](https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-interoperability/pull/81) - see links to PRs. Ann Marie Fred * Updating SIG Interoperability Roadmap, Reminder * Software Supply Chain * Standardized Metadata * Artifact Handling * Policy Driven CD * Events * Link to the document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uf3sb-WJUp3Acd3WYL5SvgVECHevonufJOxd6KftOxc/edit# * \<addme\> #### Action Items * \<addme\>

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