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title: Carvel Community Meeting (current)
tags: community
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# Carvel Community Meeting

*This doc is meant to serve as the "one doc to rule them all" for Carvel community meetings and open discussions.*

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:information_source: **Community Meeting Details**
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- Community meetings are held **every 2nd and 4th Wednesday at 08:00AM Pacific Time** ([Convert to your time zone](https://dateful.com/time-zone-converter?t=08:00&tz=PT%20%28Pacific%20Time%29)).
- Join the [Google Group](https://groups.google.com/g/carvel-dev) to get updates on the project and invites to community meetings.
- [Community meeting Zoom link](https://VMware.zoom.us/j/98864895841?pwd=TzNnMFpMWHRMbWw0NWJYWDJnQ0VqZz09)
- Previous recordings: [Carvel YouTube Playlist](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7bmigfV0EqS1ZxRR1cRd8eqdwQij9Lsa)
- Archived Community Meeting Agendas:
- [2020 Community Meetings](https://hackmd.io/nST4xTprTKaA4EJ9ejhuWQ)
- [2021 Community Meetings](https://hackmd.io/PHGWaBYAR_iMkJaAvJZp0Q)
- [2022 Community Meetings](https://hackmd.io/F7g3RT2hR3OcIh-Iznk2hw)
- **Need help or have an issue to discuss with the team?** Add your item to **Discussion Topics** for the next meeting's agenda. :point_down:

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:information_source: **Where to Find Us**
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The Carvel team can be reached at:
* [#Carvel channel](https://kubernetes.slack.com/archives/CH8KCCKA5) in The Kubernetes Slack
* If you aren't already a member on the Kubernetes Slack workspace, please first [request an invitation](https://slack.k8s.io/) to gain access.
* [Email Us](mailto:[e-mail])
* GitHub: Within any of our [project repos](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel#carvel).
* Twitter: [@carvel_dev](https://twitter.com/carvel_dev)

:::warning
_Please read and abide by our [Code of Conduct](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/blob/develop/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md)._
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# January 25, 2023 Agenda
If you are using any of the Carvel tools, please add details on your usage in this pinned issue: [Are you using Carvel?](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel/issues/213)

### Attendees (Please add your name + organization below)
1. John Ryan (VMware)
2. Joao Pereira (VMware)
3. scott rosenberg (TeraSky)
4. Varsha Munishwar (VMware)
5. Praveen Rewar (VMware)
6. Rohit Aggarwal (VMware)
7. Kumari Tanushree (VMware)
8. Renu Yarday (VMWare)

### Announcements
* CNCF Onboarding update
* Migration complete!
* You can find all of our repos under the new org here: https://github.com/carvel-dev
* Please let us know immediately if you encounter any issues!
* **Content**
* Since Last Meeting:
* ytt was listed as one of the best [DevOps Tools, Platforms, and Services in 2023](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zKYT2I_WhE) by Viktor Farcic
* Upcoming:
* TBD: Blog post on becoming a contributor -> maintainer by Nanci Lancaster
* Need to iron out some more details and processes before publishing
* Feb 8: Choose Your Own Adventure-style journey through the CNCF landscape featuring kbld (thank you, Scott!)
* Feb 21: Choose Your Own Adventure (same as above) this time through ytt (thank you, Cora!)
* **Releases**
* `imgpkg` [v0.35.0](https://github.com/carvel-dev/imgpkg/releases/tag/v0.35.0)

### Status Updates / What's Being Worked On Since Last Meeting
- [Project Roadmap](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel/blob/develop/ROADMAP.md)
- Still ongoing: Needs to be updated, has not been updated since October.
- If you have any thoughts or ways you want to influence our roadmap, please reach out to us and let us know what would be most helpful to you!
- If there are any specific issues that you know of for any of the tools that you would like to see being worked on, please let us know!
- [Backlog](https://github.com/orgs/vmware-tanzu/projects/16)
- kapp
- Allow app names to be have than 63 characters (currently there is a limit because we use the app name as a label value in app change ConfigMaps)
- Garbage collect config maps while deleting app even if it fails

### Discussion Topics
_(Something you'd like to share/ask? add it here!👇)_
- [scott rosenberg] imgpkg - allow keeping full registry structure and or keeping at least image names when relocating images and packages
- [imgpkg-003 Rename images when copying bundles #150](https://github.com/carvel-dev/carvel/issues/150)
- [Proposal Preview](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-community/blob/960c063ae4a1ed68c3c91963826641de2d8d3815/proposals/imgpkg/003-copy-bundles-with-rename/Readme.md)
- [Open PR](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-community/pull/22)
- [Joao] Vanity links
- [Scott] Support emitting comments in resulting YAML [#63](https://github.com/carvel-dev/ytt/issues/63)

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# January 11, 2023 Agenda
If you are using any of the Carvel tools, please add details on your usage in this pinned issue: [Are you using Carvel?](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel/issues/213)

### Attendees (Please add your name + organization below)
1. Aaron Hurley (VMware)
2. Soumik Majumder (VMware)
3. Thomas Vitale (Systematic)
4. John Ryan (VMware)
5. Varsha Munishwar (VMware)
6. Renu Yarday (VMWare)
7. Guillaume Berche (Orange)
8. Nanci Lancaster (VMware)

### Announcements
* CNCF Onboarding update
* Reminder: The migration will have an impact on any projects that are using the carvel tool directly via go libraries. The organization will be changing from `vmware-tanzu` to `carvel-dev` so gomodules will need to be updated to reflect these changes. We will announce in adanced in the #carvel channel on the kubernetes slack, this is an early warning.
* **Content**
* Since last meeting:
* [Enlightning - Carvel: Clean Tools for Cloud Native Problems](https://youtu.be/gsyGOv_Nwb0) with Leigh Capili
* Upcoming:
* Blog post on becoming a contributor -> maintainer by Nanci Lancaster
* Community Content Sharing (this means you :raising_hand: :point_left: )
* Please [signup](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel/blob/develop/processes/weekly-content-sharing.md) to share your Carvel knowledge! All non-Carvel Maintainers will receive a t-shirt as a thank you!
* **Releases**
* none since last meeting

### Status Updates / What's Being Worked On Since Last Meeting
- [Project Roadmap](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel/blob/develop/ROADMAP.md)
- Needs to be updated, has not been updated since October.
- If you have any thoughts or ways you want to influence our roadmap, please reach out to us and let us know what would be most helpful to you!
- [Backlog](https://github.com/orgs/vmware-tanzu/projects/16)
- kapp
- Garbage collect config maps while deleting app even if it fails
- Reducing unnecessary list calls while creating a new app
- Regex matching for paths
- Working with Cristoph to see how kapp can better support kustomize
- Excluding status from diffs
- kctrl
- Discussing how we can go about easing some pain points while getting started with kapp-controller (Thomas' idea) [carvel-kapp-controller#1001](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp-controller/issues/1001), [carvel-kapp-controller#1043](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp-controller/issues/1043)
- imgpkg
- [imgpkg tag list without the .imgpkg tags](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/issues/459)

### Discussion Topics
_(Something you'd like to share/ask? add it here!👇)_
- Making kapp friendlier towards Custom Resources with stable APIs from other projects.
- Praveen creating issue during meeting, will add link soon!(kapp [#668](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp/issues/668))
- Integration of ytt as a flux controller ? (From Guillaume Berche @Orange)
- Similar work: https://kluctl.io/docs/flux/
- https://kluctl.io/docs/kluctl/reference/templating/
- Guillaume opened an issue in the kapp_controller repo to share ideas there: https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp-controller/issues/1048
- Is there community members that are using Carvel tools to bring continuous integration use-cases such as running tests, merging branches, etc...
- Leigh Capili (@stealthybox on K8s Slack)