# NICEST2 final day-3 morning

Link to the shared document https://hackmd.io/@nicest2/SyZlj6HI2

* What we learned about FAIR (Link to presentation: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1gjobLBZxN1fdOh6F8lXn6sROq-6DDgo4VRsK-EXz7RU/edit?usp=sharing)
- Hackathons & workshops (M4M with GoFAIR)
- EDAM onthology (with Matus Kalas)
- The word "data" is used a lot in the DoW
- "Research Object" is a wider concept
- Lack of governance/authoritative body
- Who "decided" what metada is needed, which software is to be used, etc.?
- Until that is sorted out there are only local "solutions" implemented
- Interoperability?
- Roles and responsibilities?
- Incentivization
- Efforts vs. payoff?
- Hamish believes this has to be a top-down approach
- Oskar realized that there are benefits in the long run to make things reproducible for one´s future self
- Need to engage with the community
- Reset the goals (beyond data)
- These are many points that we overlooked at the beginning of NICEST2
- Really overwhelming at the begining for reseachers
- Allocate funds for data stewarts or the like to help <- this will be easier if the incentive comes from above

- For the afternoon HORIZON-INFRA-2024-EOSC-01-01 discussion
- SND (https://snd.gu.se/en/contact/contact-management) feels like they would be a good lead partner from Sweden - if they are interested.
- NAISS (the new SNIC) may be able to act as a back end resource provider
- Researcher/User engagement - should be an important WP. Workshops/meetings/etc. and promoting early adoptor examples & use cases.
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* ESGF in the Nordics
- Lots of activities carried out under NICEST2 (CSC-ESFG node, NorESG/NIRD, assisted DMI, indexed data, publishing tool with custom scripts folowing strict rules & procedures -> automated workflows to minimize human errors)
- Precheck module (supports SLURM) uses containerized deployments of nctime (to ensure that data published has the correct "time bounds" and "time axis aquareness", cmorfixer, cdf2cim, etc.
- Not allowed to delete data (keep metadata)
- Creates a Makefile that can be executed on the ESGF datanode
- Thredds dataserver catalog files
- Spotted issues with duplicate files
- Demo