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# 2022-12-07 NumPy community meeting
- Time: 7:00 pm UTC
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## Follow-up from the last meeting / discussions
_For the notes from the previous meeting, visit: https://github.com/numpy/archive/blob/main/community_meetings/community-2022-11-23.md_
- Documentation artifact link broke due to the permission changes for the OSSF security card.
- Still broken, Ross was trying to find the right thing, but the permissions are still broken and debugging is a bit unclear.
- Lets open it up again (i.e. no limits on permission) and tighten it up later.
- 1.24.x branched :tada: :cake: :champagne:
- [name=seberg] (if stakeholders are around) `longdouble` change, likely road forward
- was mailing list discussion
- How feasible do starts on alternatives seem?
1. Creation of new DType (seems feasible to Sebastian, maybe we can even say its OK if it is finished _after_ the NumPy release)
2. Limiting use to sane platforms.
- How would the implementation of removing it look like as a C-API break. This probably requires NumPy 2.0?
- The interesting long doubles are really only, Intel extended precision (80bits), IBM double-double, and true quad precision (which nowadays is starting to exist in arm64).
- Right now the issue seems not a big issue, so long certain fallback paths get removed.
- [name=rgommers] Update on Meson build & merging it into `main`
- It is getting there, plan: Add one CI job, to make sure meson keeps working. Doing a single clean PR.
- Current remaining work is full SIMD support and improving blas/lapack detection.
- Add CI for other jobs, but only run it manually?
- PyPy working? :)
- [name=seberg] Creation of a new unit DType repo (partially just for organizational reasons)
- This has to do with NASA grant which goes via 3 years, and has many things in pandas, numpy, etc.... One of these is working on a string DType for NumPy which also works on pandas.
- Lets do that.
- [name=seberg] "Road to NumPy 2.0"
- *When should we do it?*
Jan 2024 seems reasonable.
We should start planning in June 2023.
- *What should go into 2.0?*
Clean up Python API, e.g., namespaces, libraries that are historical artifacts, functions with underscores
Remove C API.
- *What should go into 1.25?*
Deprecation warnings in Python API.
Introduce Meson build.
This should be a deprecation release.
- *To do:*
[] Sebastian to propose a plan for NumPy 2.0
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