# Open Container Initiative Meeting - April 19, 2023
KubeCon EU - Amsterdam

## Location
Date: Wednesday, April 19
Time: 2:30pm - 5:00pm (5:30am PT / 8:30am ET)
Room: D203-204

## Zoom
Same Zoom as the OCI Dev Call!
https://zoom.us/my/opencontainers?pwd=S2tJVGVra0dYdlZCRjJwdXdPdGRQQT09
Passcode: 77777

## Recording

- https://youtu.be/NN6uvi5jsM4

## Attendees
* Bracken (IBM)
* vbatts
* Jimmy Z
* Samuel Karp
* Akihiro Suda
* Sebastiaan van Stijn
* Phil Estes (AWS)
* Amye
* Brandon Mitchell (IBM)
* John Kjell
* Andrew Block
* Max (SAP)
* Hans (SAP)
* Josh Dolitsky
* Victor Lu
* (sleepy) jon
* Mike Brown (IBM)

## Agenda

- (Brandon) Working Session on image-spec and distribution-spec releases
- Cut a new RC
- many PRs merged lately, but still a few maybe to resolve
- v1.1 milestone
- https://github.com/opencontainers/image-spec/milestone/14
- https://github.com/opencontainers/distribution-spec/milestone/6
- votes are up for RC's
- https://github.com/opencontainers/image-spec/pull/1049
- https://github.com/opencontainers/distribution-spec/pull/403
- (AkihiroSuda) runtime-spec v1.1, runc v1.2
- cgroup v2
- time namespaces
- seccomp enhancements
- (brandon) Future working group planning
- Artifact manifest
- Authentication / Authorization
- Tag API (querying manifest digests)
- (Sam) FreeBSD?
- Group wants to concurrently work on artifact manifest and authn/authz
- (john kjell) When should TOB step in
- process to remove
- right now the pressure is low, and likely best time to review non-active maintainers
- during "high pressure" moments is likely the worst time to remove/add/change maintainers
- TAG App Delivery on Artifact Discovery
- Discovering artifacts across multiple repositories
- Add yours!

From the chat:

00:18:23 Josh Dolitsky: Re conformance: would be great to get +1 here! https://github.com/opencontainers/distribution-spec/pull/401
00:18:40 Josh Dolitsky: to ensure no regressions after adding tests for referrences/subject etc
00:36:10 Samuel Karp: OOPS.md
00:41:30 vbatts: @josh, I can do both if you'd like
00:41:45 vbatts: I realized I'm already creating the one for distribution-spec
00:41:56 Josh Dolitsky: ok works for me!
00:44:01 Josh Dolitsky: i got it vincent: https://github.com/opencontainers/distribution-spec/pull/402
00:53:54 Josh Dolitsky: we have emeritus! https://github.com/opencontainers/image-spec/blob/main/EMERITUS.md
01:05:02 vbatts: vote's are up
01:07:57 vbatts: aw beans. Your's is nicer.
01:12:02 Brandon Mitchell: git push origin main --force
01:14:06 Brandon Mitchell: Ohh... do I get a cape?
01:14:09 Mike Brown: :-O
01:14:46 Brandon Mitchell: Josh has a super maintainer outfit in the closet he's itching to wear. :D
01:18:23 Brandon Mitchell: If we're doing things, things are broken.
01:18:26 vbatts: https://profspeak.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/what-exactly-would-you-say-you-do-here-1.jpg
01:19:49 Brandon Mitchell: On a scale of 1 to 10, we may be disagreeing with how far on the broken spectrum we are.
01:20:10 Josh Dolitsky: Reacted to "https://profspeak...." with ❤️
01:20:36 Mike Brown: half full..
01:22:06 Mike Brown: that something is.. WGs
01:22:19 Samuel Karp: Mike, speak up!
01:27:55 vbatts: Is HackMD broken for anyone else? (I can't edit ...)
01:28:20 Brandon Mitchell: Still works for me
01:36:11 Josh Dolitsky: RC votes:

https://groups.google.com/a/opencontainers.org/g/dev/c/ZUza21145X0
https://groups.google.com/a/opencontainers.org/g/dev/c/zBMzggJEBA4
01:36:32 Josh Dolitsky: https://github.com/opencontainers/oci-conformance#oci-certified-conformance-program
01:40:48 Brandon Mitchell: Weakest conformance test ever, they were able to submit a PR and get merged: https://github.com/opencontainers/image-spec/blob/main/implementations.md
01:41:23 Samuel Karp: That's an adoption list, not a conformance list
01:41:48 Josh Dolitsky: brb
01:41:49 Brandon Mitchell: add 👍
01:43:04 Bracken: I'd join a working group on Authn/z, cri-o is... different.
01:43:38 Mike Brown: Reacted to "That's an adoption l..." with 👍
01:51:49 Mike Brown: search apis have a tendency to reduce into index dumps, namespace issues will pop up (registries have different namespace designs public/private etc..), content change subscriptions could be less expensive over time.. all resolvable.. but will be difficult to normalize
01:54:24 Josh Dolitsky: i think we just need a new word for artifact: https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/artifact

antiquity
heirloom
relic
bygone
monument
rarity
ruin
vestige
01:56:43 Brandon Mitchell: Oh wow, I'm jealous of Mike's mug
02:00:01 Josh Dolitsky: Q: hows the weather in Amsterdam
02:00:25 Samuel Karp: it was pretty Seattle-like yesterday, today was more sunny
02:04:58 Brandon Mitchell: "no pressure"
02:05:11 Josh Dolitsky: If anybody sees anyone from Chainguard, smack them in the face for me ❤️
02:05:12 Mike Brown: WG in person get togethers… mini summits …accelerate the process, get commitment
02:05:14 Mike Brown: cheers