Cabal meeting notes 2025-10-09 - ?

# Cabal meeting (2025-12-04) ## Attendees ## Previous meeting wrap-up ## Current affairs - meeting time: Artem will not have a conflict with the standard time, so maybe we should move the actual time (starting at half-hour) back to the standard time (starting at the hour). ## Review needed - [XXX PRs have the "attention: needs-review" label](https://github.com/haskell/cabal/labels/attention%3A%20needs-review) ## Food for thought # Cabal meeting (2025-11-20) ## Attendees Artem, Brandon, Fransco A., Jappie, Kristen, Magnus ## Previous meeting wrap-up - New cabal logo landed in the repo, thanks to fgaz for the design. - Artem PGP key is now cross-signed with f-a’s one. ## Current affairs - 3.16.1.0 release - need volunteers! - did Brandon advance with Changelog? we want them ASAP! - note for future: we can submit GHCup post-installation notes as a part of the metadata file - migration strategy for cabal external commands https://github.com/haskell/cabal/pull/11232 - it's merged so maybe not much point to litigate more, let's see how it goes?.. - exact-printer PRs: - comment parser (appears to be ready for reviewing): https://github.com/haskell/cabal/pull/11252 - don't merge common stanzas (draft): https://github.com/haskell/cabal/pull/11277 - separate tests-related PR: https://github.com/haskell/cabal/pull/11285 ## Review needed - [Only 2 PRs have the "attention: needs-review" label](https://github.com/haskell/cabal/labels/attention%3A%20needs-review) \o/ ## Food for thought --- # Cabal meeting (2025-11-06) (and we start 0.5h later till December) ## Attendees Mikołaj, Brandon, Artem, Francesco Ariis, Kristen, Francesco Gazzetta. ## Previous meeting wrap-up * no movement on either of issues and we can just ping people... ## Current affairs * Next 3.16 release schedule? * maybe start the GHC-cabal coordination process right now * only then create the main cabal release ticket with checkboxes * Recent urgent CI fixes: anything we need to know for the future? * (Brandon) python fix will need to be revised, since there doesn't seem to be any intention of supporting older packages in pip in the future so the constraint `!=` must become `<` * this also means we must look at what is needed to support newer python packages, which may also mean upgrading sphinx etc. * [Artem] external commands interface change: https://github.com/haskell/cabal/pull/11232 * [fgaz] Add revision information to plan.json https://github.com/haskell/cabal/pull/10980 ## Review needed - [3 PRs have the "attention: needs-review" label](https://github.com/haskell/cabal/labels/attention%3A%20needs-review) ## Food for thought --- # Cabal meeting (2025-10-23) (and we start 0.5h later till December) ## Attendees Brandon, Mikolaj, Artem, Kristen ## Previous meeting wrap-up - v1 removal timeline / plan - not much changed; Andreas added a couple of v1-vs-v2 tickets that he thinks are show stoppers. Bodigrim pointed out Hackage as a big v1 user. - the other proposal, about the bytecode way support: https://github.com/haskell/cabal-proposals/pull/2 - no objections to accepting it (the Cabal changes, not the GHC changes); Mikolaj will write this in the proposal ## Current affairs - Simon's ticket about recompilation: https://github.com/haskell/cabal/issues/11257 - it turned out we solved it some time before (https://github.com/haskell/cabal/issues/7711#issuecomment-1948000159) and Simon needs to update GHC... - cabal exact-print strikes again; we are enthusiastic, as usual; could somebody help? even just have a look? one of the tickets: https://github.com/haskell/cabal/pull/11252 - Artem may need help from more knowledgeable folk for https://github.com/haskell/cabal/pull/11002 which has been in the draft state since June. I just need to find time to get back to it. ## Review needed - [2 PRs have the "attention: needs-review" label](https://github.com/haskell/cabal/labels/attention%3A%20needs-review) ## Food for thought We stick to meeting half past the usual time till December to make it easier for Artem. --- # Cabal meeting (2025-10-09) ## Attendees Brandon, Francesco, Mikolaj, Artem, Kristen ## Previous meeting wrap-up - 5 last gitlab pipelines are green, so the gitlab CI pipeline backup is probably operational for the time being ## Current affairs - People are unhappy about the form of our changelog: no way to grep through it because it's distributed over many files. - https://discourse.haskell.org/t/what-is-the-ideal-dependency-update-workflow/13048 * it would be great to use Hecate's API check too (print-api https://github.com/Kleidukos/print-api), but its deployment in GHC (and cabal) is still future work * in general, searching across versions would be easier in a big changelog, while searching a single release is easier now * we are still open for proposals (and then implementations) - Matthew: I have written a cabal proposal which aims to establish a plan for removing the v1- legacy interface. Please read, comment and offer your opinion! - https://github.com/haskell/cabal-proposals/pull/4 - For a start, can the meeting attendees agree about the premise "We want to remove the v1- family of commands, therefore we need a plan to achieve that."? Yes, the attendees agree. - Matthew: Could consensus be assessed on the bytecode proposal - https://github.com/haskell/cabal-proposals/pull/2 - Let's postpone to the next meeting in order not to rush it. - Brandon: the workaround for misformatted footnotes in the cabal documentation ([#11246](https://github.com/haskell/cabal/issues/11246)) pins us to an older version of `docutils` that may be problematic if a security update is released - I will look into needed changes or bug reports after the cabal 3.16.1.0 release - Shall we mention key fingerprints for maintainers? Past release managers too? Let's discuss in the ticket: https://github.com/haskell/cabal/issues/11245 ## Review needed - [3 PRs have the "attention: needs-review" label](https://github.com/haskell/cabal/labels/attention%3A%20needs-review) - [GHC MR: Support statically linking executables properly](https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/merge_requests/14935) - Noted. Let use know if we can help or if something very directly influencing cabal crops up. ## Food for thought - GHC 9.14 is nearing; anything to do now re cabal 3.16.1.0? any help needed? --- Prior notes: https://hackmd.io/X62yS0d6RxW3ybh8AmRqlw?both

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