# Versotile touch-base weekly

# 2024-07-29 - 13:00 UTC

## Agenda

- Org Updates
- Gitbook Access?
- Commons Conservancy
- Funding Updates
- Verso-Accelerate has applied for NGI Search for 150K; Goal is to build an abstraction layer for easy integration of machine learning models like vision, nlu / nlg, etc
- Funding application for FORTRESS is about to finalize; estimated work effort numbers are required. Will apply for 300k over a 1 year effort
- Proposal 257 got troubled. Task 1 may be on hold. Task 2 is still negotiating
- Task 1 of proposal 207 got approved. Now we wait for transaction
- Verso
- Fundings

## Notes

- Org Updates
- For gitbook access, we would require anyone with desired editing rights to pass email address to Peter or Matthias via DM.
- No updates on the listing as a programme inside the Commons Conservancy
- Funding Updates from NLNet
- Michiel busy on other projects;
- Verso
- Wrote own Compositor
- Script Triage Meeting

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# 2024-07-15 - 13:00 UTC

## Agenda

- Multiview proposals almost done
- Still trying to find people can work on benchmarking
- Profiles
- CSS properties listing
- NLNet status
- retro:
- CC status
- website content
- AOB

## Notes

- Taym is interested in taking speedometer 3 benchmark
- Yu-Wei will share the link on about url handling in profile topic
- Yu-Wei will open the issue about supported CSS properties

# 2024-07-08 - 13:00 UTC

## Agenda

- Outline
- Access
- Organisation / Team Leadership
- Possible conflicts should be brought to the group early on, so it will be easier to solve.
- Ben is working on providing Github Logins for outline
- Requesting 257's funding. Ready to request 207 as well.
- Taym and Cybai are working on speedometer 3
- Multiview is almost ready. Left over issues could form new proposals.
- commons conservancy status?
- verso-panel/GUI
- main website contents
- ladybird

## Notes

- Outline
- Meetings notes should be public, but some others could be private.
- Considering managed version on getoutline.com (condition criteria is user count)
- We will request another grant tomorrow (207's task 1)
- Denjell will call Michiel
- https://github.com/versotile-org/verso/issues/79
- denjell also will write about/verso pages for website

# 2024-07-01 - 13:00 UTC

## Agenda

- Organization restructure.
- responsibilities, roles, hats, etc.
- workflow, tickets, etc.
- Status on 4th proposal
- Benchmarking Proposal main contact
- Current GH issues
- Servo stuff

## Notes
- Proposal to optimize organization structure
- Creating Working Groups for the respective on-going projects
- Website
- Verso
- Fortress
- Proposal for processes to resolve (future) conflicts
- CONTRIBUTION.md required
- Verso https://github.com/versotile-org/verso/issues/63
- Fortress ...
- Website ...
- Matthias reaches out to Amy to ask about her future involvement
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# 2024-06-24 - 13:00 UTC

## Agenda

- Fortress
- NGI Assure(our 3x 50k porposals): 202 / 207 / 214
- NGI Search (next proposal)
- `servo/net` component refactoring
- Servo-Tauri amendment (our 130k for existing work)
- Statutes
- Chair Person of Foundation Election? Who wants to be elected?

## Notes
**Attending**
- Denjell
- Tensor
- Peter
- Yu-Wei
- Matthias

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- No outline yet. Ben is OOO, so we expect some instance from next week
- Clarification of the title Chair-Person
- Tie breaker in voting situation
- Some kind of representative
- fortress
- Matthias will try to apply for Sovereign Tech Fund, even though it's not an 'established' project yet.
- we start creating environment such as repository, website page (at versotile.org/fortress)
- NGI Assure
- checking the multibrowsing proposal (something is off from NLNet)
- NGI Search
- Servo-Tauri amendment
- we need to know its current progress without causing other misunderstanding.
- Daniel has mailed Michiel about this
- Statutes
- done
- Chairperson
- prepared to confirmation

# 2024-06-10 - 13:00 UTC

## Agenda

- Moving from Discord to Zulip
- https://versotile.zulipchat.com
- NGI Assure grant ( 130k )
- Verso issues:
- Instance Attribute and Builder
- Panel features
- Decorated webview
- Servo issues:
- Benchmark
- sandbox mode
- multiprocess mode
- AOB
- https://robert.ocallahan.org/2024/06/browser-engine.html
- Outline? Does Ben from CrabNebula gave access to some instance?

## Notes
**Attending**:
- Josh
- Yu-Wei
- Peter
- Matthias

- NGI Assure Fund Dissemination, 130K, ask / reach out to Daniel
- Migration to Zulip / https://versotile.zulipchat.com
- Zulip will be the main place for communication, technical discussion etc.
- AOB
- General Question on possible fund/treasury on a foundation to pay for IT infrastructure: is it possible to donate personal money in order to pay for infrastructure.

### AOB

# 2024-06-03 - 13:00 UTC

## Agenda

- NGI Assure Summary
~~- Zulip and Outline Setup~~
- Delay Roadmap in favor of NGI Assure first
- AOB

## Notes
**Attending**: Yu Wei, Tensor, Peter

### AOB

# 2024-05-28 - 13:00 UTC

## Agenda
- Determine Purpose
- Define core values
- Commons Conservancy
- foundation details
- Self-organization
- org layout
- Roadmap
- AOB

## Notes
**Attending**: denjell, matthias, Parker, Yu Wei, Peter

### Evaluate Outline and HackMD

### Determine Purpose
- Building a better browser?
- What kind of challenges do we want to solve?
- Yu-Wei
- Worked on Tauri for a very long time and has a ton of experience with chromium and edge and webkit, feels like there are a lot of things that could be better
- Build a core technology to build a better ecosystem
- While developing the browser improve the core technologies
- Dive in and solve problems, not apply band-aids
- Other browsers don't care about Issues / Pull-Requests from outsiders
- Worth investing in Servo, but will be difficult because we need to understand the core stacks
- Understand the difficulty and align with it
- What other alternative do we have for Tauri, other than doing it ourselves?
- Peter
- A big believer in freedom and privacy
- Huge opportunity to create a future that supports these ideas instead of the dark "google" future
- No one can do this, so no one does it
- Make a safe environment for people
- collaborate with governmental bodies from the beginning
- Real opportunity to CHANGE
- Denjell
- Finds himself going deeper and deeper in the stack
- Wants a better world for Tauri
- No trust for either the Corpos or Governments
- Knock-on effect to inspire other developers and browsers
- NOT DOING THIS JUST TO RAISE MONEY
- funding based on what we want, not what they want
- Matthias
- Biggest point is, that Verso will be a lightower project to attract more engineers to work on Verso, and help out with the challenges posed by servo base features in order to be on par with chromium and gecko.
- Browser should be a customer / user facing / friendly platform, that enables them to partially chose their own way on how to surf the way, but start with a privacy respecting and secure platform.
- Agree on focus on core stack to have an excellent base to base future work on.
- Have autonomy from corporations, governments etc.

### Commons Conservancy
- Can have statutes based on this: https://dracc.commonsconservancy.org/0035/
(Tauri statutes)
- Importance of lean decision making processes.
- Board has no decision power, but decisions should be legally taken by working group
- Only for legitimate process
- Legal things like contracts MUST be approved by the board
- NAMES
- Wu Yu Wei
- Peter Mikola
- Matthias Kandora
- Daniel Thompson-Yvetot
- Tensor
- Need two more names
- Daniel Todo: prepare updated "reskinned" Statutes

### self-org (+management)
not yet decided, postponed to later time

### Roadmap
- need a domain (also for outline)
- possible domains: `verso.gg`, `verso.info`, `verso.xyz`, `getverso.org`
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### AOB
none