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    # 透過多重體驗開發平台 (MXDP) 加快開發速度、強化使用者體驗 / 徐剛 {%hackmd @ModernWeb/SyA2U6SmT %} > 共筆請從這開始 大數據是讓AI知道不要往這個分支繼續走下去 # 數位轉型 遷移已有應用很困難,且成本高 * 服務封裝:分析並將後端應用邏輯重構 * Modernization * 數據 * 業務邏輯:維持現有業務邏輯,並對新需求進行改進 > 還是先開個聊天室 不管白頭髮黑頭髮 有頭髮就好XD AI 就是便利便利便利(遍歷遍歷遍歷?) 真正的瓶頸在算力 還有 data 還有錢 黃仁勳:貴是你的問題 二X樹是binary tree嗎? 二元樹? 對,他們叫二叉樹 ------------ Q: 這場有提供簡報嗎? 要等之後再放出來吧? ------------ (無情)工商業配中,謝謝金主爸爸讓我有 MWC 可以看 Volt Mx, Iris & Foundry & Go XD 🤫 只好在這邊聊天了 笑死 還在工商嗎? 我覺得是的 好久 工商越久代表贊助越多 我比較好奇贊助了多少,贊助到 Keynote 等級 我剛去查了,鑽石級贊助商 XDDD 還是唯一一個鑽石 ![image.png](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/BJFy4YO7T.png) 我有個疑問,如果... 只是如果... 如果有政治人物是鑽石贊助商,是不是也可以這樣做政宣 他有辦法沾邊到過審核比較厲害XD ITHOME應該也不會想砸招牌 大概只有唐鳳勉強能沾上邊吧 忘記哪個研討會他有來講的XD 不過應該也不用贊助 這場算政治嗎?數位發展部導入自然人憑證無密碼驗證與零信任 / 周詳 不算吧 問一下,有人可以用淺顯易懂的話解釋什麼是「多重體驗開發平台」嗎@@? 一臉矇ing (+5) -> 所以他就是來解釋給你聽的 -> 看起來是讓企業只需維護一套程式碼,就可同時開發 iOS、Android、HTML5等專案,不用各別花高成本搞 ios android web 團隊 > 不太對,還是會有多套不同平臺的業務邏輯/流程 > 確實,但理解上這平台就是降低開發成本對嗎 > 時間快結束了,還是沒懂「多重體驗開發平台」 >降低開發成本跟降低維護成本是兩回事 如果要生不出來的功能就要看他們有沒有辦法讓你生 問題: 有人或是有公司是真的有使用過這一套嗎? Volt MX? ios/andriod/web團隊的確是痛處, 是否用了之後變成要跟這平台綁在一起了. 你要找的是不是: Flutter? => Flutter 解決ios/andiord, 但H5 還是要做.=> 再研究好了. 他的演示這樣不是還要重新處理後端? 感覺只是幫忙你轉換進了另一套內容裡面而已? 結束了???????????哈哈. ???????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????? 整段都在工商???? 我瘋掉 研討會就這樣XDD QQ 我還是聽不太懂技術點,是不是我太菜 工商時間工商時間 工商時間結束的話大家喊一下 叫醒我 > 你可以起來了 > 人家是來推銷他的大平臺的 > 跟 AWS 大會一樣,本質上是在推銷自家產品 > Q:所以他在介紹的東西就是像AWS那樣的多工具及和平台? > 至少 AWS 還是有把實際業務場景秀出來,告訴你他是怎麼決問題和思考問題的 > 對啊,所以我才不知道他到底提供的服務是什麼XD An MXDP is an opinionated, integrated set of front-end development tools and “backend for frontend” (BFF) capabilities. ![image.png](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/B1VOGKdXa.png) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rk5eDz0w_4 有種 dw 的既視感(dreamweaver 嗎?)yes -> 所以重點是把前後端整在一起嗎? -> 我也想知道是不是跟firebase這種可以在網頁操作資料庫有沒有關係? -> 感覺辣...是不是跟 Mendix 有點類似 -> 覺得像~ Q: 是類似Xamarin的東東? (感謝訂正 😂) > 你想說的是 Xamarin 對吧,概念不太對 > 等等會不會做出梗圖 > [https://github.com/HCL-TECH-SOFTWARE](https://github.com/HCL-TECH-SOFTWARE) 個人好奇對於 low code platform 在各公司/團隊是如何實踐,個人最近在研究免錢的 n8n。 > 我提供敝公司的分設計 > 把 AWS API Gateway + AWS Lambda 當作 Middleware 來用 > 完整的實現 API First + Low Code > 不過就是沒人能夠完整說出整架構,而且很耗 IP > 價格的話,看用量,如果都是左手換右手其實幾乎不花錢(還是要,只是真的很少) > 都使用 AWS Lambda 還算 low code 嗎?個人的目標是想讓維運同仁也可以輕鬆使用管理,因此目標對象是沒有程式撰寫經驗,對於公雲資源使用也不熟悉 >> 在 AWS Lambda 開發的那群人過去從來沒有從事過軟體開發工作,不知道有沒有回答你的問題 >> 我蠻反對這樣的,不過公司政策比較偏向這方面走 >> 如果依賴移植到外購平台,長期對公司的it人員技術來講,是不是一件不是很好的事? >> > 感覺 aws amplify 更像是 low code 的應用 > 如果是公雲方案個人認為 Microsoft Power Automate 更符合需求 一直想問大家,導入外部平台,跟人才養成開發,這兩條路到底要怎麼取捨? > 可以補充一下 context,敘述一下這邊的導入「外部平臺」具體是什麼? > 剛剛看到上面的敘述,個人認為平臺/工具的導入,用於取代部分開發人力的工作,會需要考量公司需要這些開發人力做什麼重要的任務才能為公司帶來價值。 > 對於公司來說開發人力的成本相對高(與行政/業務等職位相比),若導入平臺/工具所解放的開發人力資源,可以用於執行對於公司更有價值的工作,那麼也不是件壞事。 > 然而若公司是想用平臺/工具取代人力,代表這間公司可能也不是那麼注重人才養成,那就儘量累積自己的 credits 找個時機跳槽吧 Domino介紹 https://docs.dominodatalab.com/en/latest/admin_guide/e85a92/about-domino/

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