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Meeting - 25 November 2024

Meeting Info

This is the UK Carpentry Community space for the UK Carpentry instructors, helpers and workshop coordinators (or anyone involved in training tech to researchers in general and outside of the UK) to get to know each other better, update the commmunity about developments, discuss issues and ideas, and encourage collaboration.

During these meetings, we will be conforming to The Carpentries Code of Conduct.

Meeting schedule: meetings happen on 4th Monday each month, 16:00-17:00 UK time, BST (UTC+1) or GMT (UTC+0) depending on the time of the year

Meeting details are shared via local-uk mailing list and The Carpentries community calendar.

Zoom URL: https://zoom.us/j/95360073649

Meeting Minutes

  • Chair: Aleks Nenadic
  • Timekeeper:
  • Notetaker: Mario Antonioletti and others on the call

Agenda

  1. Assign notetaker & timekeeper
  2. Sign in & ice-breaker
  3. Review of actions
  4. Announcements
  5. Guest speaker + Q&A
  6. Instructor Training checkout questions
  7. Wrap-up/AOB

Sign-in

Name/pronoun if you like/ institution / optionally put "(checkout)" if you are here for the Instructor Training checkout:

  1. Francisco Trincado-Munoz/he,him/Oxford Brookes University (checkout)
  2. Mario Antonioletti, he/him, EPCC, The University of Edinburgh
  3. Lucia michielin, she/her, EFI, The University of Edinburgh
  4. Dimitrios Theodorakis, he/him, Met Office
  5. Aleks Nenadic, she/her, SSI/Manchester
  6. Jannetta Steyn, she/her, Newcastle University
  7. Juan Rodriguez Herrera, he/him, EPCC (The University of Edinburgh)
  8. Colin Sauze, he/him, National Oceanography Centre

Notes

No actions from the last meeting.

Had a round of introductions as Francisco was new to the group. He is here for the instructor checkout.

Dimitrios, Aleks and Jannetta are instructor trainer trainers.

Teaching coding to non-coders will be taught in Edinburgh. It will be a hybrid event. https://pairprogramming.ed.ac.uk/winter-school-25/

The SSI will be running their Research Software Camps: in November. The event will focus on digital research practitioners. Too late to register for this year but keep your eye open for November next year. Also, had some sessions in different languages, e.g. Spanish. https://www.software.ac.uk/training/research-software-camps

Francisco wanted to know how to engage/become involved in activities. Francisco has joined the local UK mailing list, you should avoid the global mailing list. There are uk events such RSECon and also Carpentry Connect. There is also the SSI Collaborations Workshop. Can ask for advice or collaborators from these calls. The SSI also has a Fellowship Programme. Also, Andrew Walker (https://www.earth.ox.ac.uk/people/andrew-walker) is based in Oxford so can network with him. Colin's group is half based in Southampton so can advertise and provide expenses for local people.

Upcoming workshops: https://carpentries.org/workshops/

ARCHER2 folks, which Juan manages, are also keen to run courses if there is a requirement.

To organise your own workshop (self-organising) this group would be a good place to advertise your event.

Francisco still has to do the teaching demonstration. No concern there.

New Carpentry web pages are much nicer and intuitive.

In the process of setting up a special interest group for teaching researchers.

CarpentryConnect 2024 Heidelberg

https://biont-training.eu/CarpentryConnect2024.html

Two people were at Carpentry Connect and one attended remotely. The event was in Heidelberg two weeks ago. The conference was enjoyable. Had some good keynotes. Jannetta had a mini HPC workshop. Well prepared but nothing worked. People built their own small network using RaspberryPis. Had a mini hackathon working on documentation.

Attending remotely worked well. Some of the discussion supported hybrid and they made a good job involving the remote people. Also had a session about teaching on the cloud. Hybrid was only 20 euros to attend. Flights were expensive.Taking the train was not much cheaper.

Facilities at EMBL were really good. Aleks, who was there, attended session of lesson development. Differences for intermediate vs novices and the exercises. Changing the lesson from the old to the new format. Need to get in touch with the lesson owners. Some scripts have been developed to facilitate the transrciption from the old to the new format.

Dimitrios asked if anyone has tried this on non-Carpentry lessons. The tutorial focuses on using the Carpentry infrastructure which makes it harder to apply outside this context. Aleks has some notes and may be able to provide some help or provide connections.

New SIG on training

Doing this as part of RSE. Dimitrios and Aleks are leading. Pip from Warwick and Sam from UCL are also involved. Try to link this to the Carpentries community - training for reasearchers, training for RSE. Awaiting approval but hope to start in 2025.

Lucia talked about the winter school - 8th Jan start. it should be really interesting to see how coding is introduced to non-coders. It will be hybrid so you do not have to come to Edinburgh.

The HandRSE workshop will be run at King's College in March.

Lucia run a data carpentry last week and she had 30 sign ups. Numbers seem to be coming up compared to recent times.

Aleks had an instructor training session and had 21 people attending and they all seemed to stay.

Colin is running a workshop with 30 registrations - await to see how many people actually show up.

Dimitrios would like people to look over the following lesson: https://www.astropython.com/git-working-practices/ which would follow the git novice lesson (also modified)https://www.astropython.com/git-novice/ - if you think of anything email Dimitrios or put an issue up. These courses will rolled out next year at the Met office and their partners. One day for each and a surgery for trying revision control on their own code.

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