# Meeting - 22 July 2024

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## Meeting Info

This is the UK Carpentry Community space for the UK Carpentry instructors, helpers and workshop coordinators (or anyone involved in training tech to researchers in general and outside of the UK) to get to know each other better, update the commmunity about developments, discuss issues and ideas, and encourage collaboration.

During these meetings, we will be conforming to [The Carpentries Code of Conduct](https://docs.carpentries.org/topic_folders/policies/code-of-conduct.html).

**Meeting schedule: meetings happen on 4th Monday each month, 16:00-17:00 UK time, BST (UTC+1) or GMT (UTC+0) depending on the time of the year**

**Meeting details are shared via [local-uk mailing list](https://carpentries.topicbox.com/groups/local-uk) and [The Carpentries community calendar](https://carpentries.org/community/#community-events).**

- [Community's HackMD workspace](https://hackmd.io/team/local-uk?nav=overview)
- [Previous & upcoming meetings](https://hackmd.io/V3ReKkEESzqyCNxWJdulOw#Meeting-Notes)
- [Meeting notes template](https://hackmd.io/hgl1tYhOTTqDsIDwjArE5w)
- [Chairing rota](https://hackmd.io/@local-uk/rkPK1Si7F)
- [Guest speaker sign-up](https://hackmd.io/@local-uk/rkkzBTLOd)

**Zoom URL:** https://zoom.us/j/95360073649

## Meeting Minutes

- **Chair:** Andrew Walker
- _Make sure to email <[e-mail]> after the meeting with trainee instructors who joined for the community discussion as part of the checkout_
- **Timekeeper:**
- **Notetaker:** Phil Reed

### Agenda
0. Assign notetaker & timekeeper
1. Sign in & ice-breaker
2. Review of actions
3. Announcements
4. Guest speaker + Q&A
5. Instructor Training checkout questions
6. Wrap-up/AOB

### Sign-in

Name/pronoun if you like/ institution / optionally put "(checkout)" if you are here for the Instructor Training checkout:

1. Yue Li, University of Oxford (checkout)
2. Mario Antonioletti, he/him, EPCC, University of Edinburgh (55.9533° N, 3.1883° W)
3. Andrew Walker, He/Him, University of Oxford
4. Phil Reed, he/him, University of Manchester
5. Andrzej Romaniuk, he/him, EPCC, University of Edinburgh
6. Winfred Gatua, she/her,University of Bristol
7. Dimitrios Theodorakis, he/him, Met Office,50.7260° N, 3.5275° W :(
8. Colin Sauze, he/him, National Oceanography Centre, latitude: 52.4, longitude -4.1
9. Juan Herrera, he/him, EPCC (The University of Edinburgh; 55.9533° N, 3.1883° W)
10. Jannetta Steyn, sher/her, Newcastle University

### Notes

ice breaker - who is furthest N, E, S or W?

- North: so far, Mario and Juan (Edinburgh 55.9533° N, 3.1883° W)
- East: Andrzej (Poland 52°13′48″N 21°00′40″E)
- South: Dimitrios (Exeter 50.72734 N, 3.47446 W)
- West: Colin (Aberystwyth 52.414°N 4.081°W)

#### Review of actions

- Several actions from [June 2024](https://hackmd.io/P9yUvxD_Q6SEb-Wf4CT2GA?view).
- The calendar invite that Aleks sent out contains one broken link. We could not correct the invite, but could delete the event and send it out new.
- [The link goes to the team page](https://hackmd.io/team/local-uk?nav=overview) which only works if you are a team member. Please ask any current member if you wish to be added. People who want to be added:
- Andrew Walker
- Andrzej Romaniuk (pretty please: [e-mail])
- {added 6 people}
- The Carpentries Google Calendar - https://carpentries.org/community/ scroll down to community events. Or for a feed to add into your own calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/oseuuoht0tvjbokgg3noh8c47g%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics
- If you want to suggest a lesson for us to look at in the CarpentryConnect event (converting to new format), let Phil and Aleks know.

#### Announcements

- Birds of a Feather session on "RSE training and professional development" at RSECon, in Newcastle/Online, Thursday September 5th, 9:30-10:45, https://virtual.oxfordabstracts.com/#/event/49081/session/118381, Message Aleks with questions.

- SSI future events online, good practices with software. Andrzej ([e-mail]) looking for instructors and helpers versed in social sciences, especially if they have taught Carpentries. Not just coding. Link to the project landing page: https://www.software.ac.uk/research-software-practices-social-sciences.

#### Guest speaker + Q&A

None this month. Please make [suggestions for future meetings](https://hackmd.io/@local-uk/rkkzBTLOd)!

#### Instructor Training checkout questions

Q Yue: What are the main objectives of this community call? What kind of situations to join, what kinds of help to ask for?

- Andrew: There are multiple calls/meetings organised by the Carpentries specifically for before/after giving training. This meeting is more 'meta' around the community, things that help broaded your practice. We talk about events that involve training that Carpentry instructors might be involved in that aren't in the typical cycle of teaching a workshop.

- Mario: Allows you to build up a network of people that you can ask quesitons. Sometimes you seek instructors/helpers for online courses (harder for f2f). Ask problems, ask for advice.

- Colin: Often we have someone give a talk about something they have done/want to share. Can be very useful for building your experience.

Q Yue: After finishing the training process, what the best ways to get most use of training materials provided by the Carpentries? There are more materials offered than I know. At what point can I explore the materials?

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Q Yue: Any offline activities to get involved or make contributions, face-to-face (eg Oxford)

- Andrew: Oxford community is not developed. Huge university compared to 'standard' Russell Group university. Lots of delegated power which is unusual, makes it hard to have cross-institutional communities that meet. Probably should look at this. Calls from Humanities for instructors, might not overlap with other subjects, for example, and get trainers from outside instead. Don't have an overarching mailing list. Really hard to fix!

- Colin: Wider community, Slack is active. Eg if you can't get something working in a lesson. #instructors is a start, see also for each lesson (but they have fewer people).
- CarpentryConnect event

- Phil: There are some groups within areas of the UK, such as South-East group who have previous presented here.

#### Wrap-up/AOB

Call out again for chairs, things to present. e.g. lessons we've taught for the first time

Chairs: No meeting in August, Colin in September, Mario in October