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OSMF OPS meeting 2024-03-21
Thursday 21 March 2024, 19:00 London time, unless rescheduled
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Action item: 2024-03-07 Grant to open tickets about not forwarding incoming spammy tickets to other email servers, where they get bounced
Consensus seemed to be that running our own IMAP server is not a good idea.
Issue: we're being blacklisted for being spammers and this is related to:
Suggestions:
** This will not work for DWG, as sometimes they reply from emails.
Other points mentioned during discussion
Decision: Open multiple tickets for the different issues. There is already one for the forwarding aspect but not for the incoming spam and OTRS aspect.
Action item: 2024-03-07 Grant and Guillaume to discuss further about the redundancy of gateway / IPv6 "private subnet". Benefit / "Cost"
[Topic: Redundancy of Gateway / IPv6 "private subnet"]
There was a long discussion.
** Not high priority but could go wrong.
Suggestions:
In favour of dropping this issue:
In favour of keeping this issue:
Other points mentioned during discussion:
Agenda
OTRS
https://github.com/openstreetmap/operations/issues/518
Grant will show results of his tests
Options:
OTOBO
** Requires manual work, as it uses different DSL.
** We would have to convert their docker compose to Podman pods. Adding podman support to Chef will be helpful elsewhere.
** We would need time investment every time we need an upgrade, like we do with Mediawiki (new and default plugins/configuration/variables).
Znuny
** it requires stepped migrations between versions.
** is a bit more painful, one-off sunk cost, but packaged in Debian.
** New search plugin API, which relies on Elasticsearch. Has many options, not very well described, English documentation.
OTRS
Consensus seemed to be: go with Znuny, as it seems better, with a straightforward upgrade path.
Other points mentioned during discussion
Action item: Paul to document in the ticket https://github.com/openstreetmap/operations/issues/518 that we will go with Znuny
DDOS attack
An individual emailed us saying that they found a security vulnerability, and requested Bitcoins, while DDOSing us from 5000-6000 IP addresses, from probably exploited servers. There were a few other people that received an identical email, a month ago. A UK mobile number was listed on the email.
Measures taken for the DDOS attack
Requests blocked:
** Data: 2 such requests today (1 with Rapid).
mod_evasive
** Unmaintainable long term.
Alternatives to using mod_evasive
** Issue: it's complicated.
** Has a fairly good, granular rate limiter built into it: can rate limit per any URL or a combination of headers and URL's.
** Tom has been looking into it.
Suggestion: Replace mod_evasive.
Other points mentioned during discussion
Equinix
Suggestion: Restate the issue to the salesperson in a brief form.
Other points mentioned during discussion
Other options
** Probably the best option.
Action items:
Large wiki pages
Issues
About Wiki Commons
We've enabled Wiki Commons, which allows us to easily embed images from wiki Commons into our wiki.
Map features page
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_features
Suggestions
** We had one and it became complex to manage and we removed it.
** Caching works best for logged out users, but as soon as you log in, then you being cached per user.
** They are semi-supported.
Other points mentioned during discussion
** Being shown a big list of things that can be mapped, helps new mappers understand that OSM is not only about mapping streets.
There was a plan to move it to the Semantic wiki.
Action item: Paul to open an issue about large wiki pages. Post meeting addition: https://github.com/openstreetmap/operations/issues/1046
Editor policy
Deferred.
Faffy status
https://hardware.openstreetmap.org/servers/faffy.openstreetmap.org/ Development and “tool” server HPE ProLiant DL360 Gen10
Current status
Issue could be related to
Suggestions
Grant has tried
Machine is a bit faster now, but not near the performance it should have.
Other points mentioned during discussion
Open Ops Tickets
Review open, what needs policy and what needs someone to help with…
https://github.com/openstreetmap/operations/issues
https://github.com/orgs/openstreetmap/projects/1
https://github.com/orgs/openstreetmap/projects/1/views/2?filterQuery=-is%3Aclosed
Action items
OPS pads for 2024 meetings