# 2018-03-13 RightsCon call
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:calendar: **Date:** Tues, Mar 13th 2018 @ 8:00am - 10:00am ET
:round_pushpin: **Location:** internetz
:arrow_forward: **Participation:** https://appear.in/rightscon-g0v
:family: **Attendance:**
* @patcon
* @ttcat
* @itsmisscs
* ...

## Agenda

1. Check-in
2. RightCon Toronto 2018
1. How do we merge into 75-minute workshop slot?
2. Who can be up front and who behind-the-scenes?
4. BONUS: [Open Culture Foundation](https://ocf.tw)
* History/context of OCF (ttcat)
* History/context of Civic Tech Toronto (patcon)
* Could a slim nonprofit entity around a bank account help civictech community in Toronto?
* Is OCF a "vendor of record" with TW gov?
* How might Open Collective fit?
5. Notes clean-up
* Do a pass-through to make sure no sensitive info made it into public notes :)
* Note-taker can use :mag: `:mag:` emoji to mark potentially sensitive bits for review later.

## Notes

**Legend**
:star: Action Item
:mag: To review

* ttcat: coming first to toronto, and then to oakland. or would go to america first
* most ppl will leave america soon after PDF -- before PDF of between
* doing film for g0v right now
* PDF
* one of cofounders of g0v XXX is director of documentary
* PDF -- all will be at PDF
* ttcat feels it's best conference, and recco highly
* dzn: one
* ttcat: one person from PDIS coming to irghtscon and one to PDF
* ttcat feels his proposal is not important for Rightscon
* submitted 4 for events and got all
* really just want one session
* most coming from rightscon from tw, maybe only 2 relate to civic tech and g0v
* 2 ppl: digital rights and digital sec training
* itsmisscs arrives -- 8:15pm
* dzn: that would be very different
* ttcat: not immersed fully in vtaiwan process
* i know she didn't get any sessions in
* dzn: what were your 4 sessions
* cofacts: fact check for rumours. voluntees and line bots.
* how china civilian policy
* how we build guidelines and checklist for good UX in security app. more activist friendly. workshop
* history and summary of g0v. experience of rightscon brussels was that not much civictech
* itsmisscs: history of g0v is great
* framed as tool for consensus decision-making in space of digital civic rights, tailored to people in room
* ttcat: interested in vnetwork proposal bc its cross-border workshop
* how were you going to run-down?
* dzn: originally going to run it as mock issue.
* tried in NYC. went pretty well.
* familiarize ppl with tools and process and methods.
* dzn: Q regarding rightscon. format?
* ttcat: didn't attend any hands-on. but idea sounds interesting
* ttcat: ex of interactive: donor face to face. speed dating.
* ttcat: talks on multi-stakeholder models. civil society and gov. faciltiator training.
* if @au coming, then it should def be vtaiwan. and @au can do 10 min talk. if she's not coming, @ttcat can do on g0v context and future.
* itmisscs: school of data session had short intro.
* itsmisscs: +1 to intro. g0v context feels important.
* patcon: voiced thoughts on not being able to get the right ppl in the room due to price point. that some of the folks we had imagined as part of this movement might not be there.
* itmisscs and dzn not so much in agreement. could speak to the folks in the room.
* how to protect security and privacy of activists
* patcon: what would ttcat's role be is au came? can pass out pens? :)
* ttcat would prefer putting any bracketing events after rightscon. maybe saturday after
* ttcat: tues would be fine. tues night. tues before.
* ttcat open to speaking with civil servants. paelleon. lilin [sic]. in slack channel. in charge of side-events and know schedules.
* itsmisscs: au not participating in rightscon, but doign something outside. side-events with @au, either telepresence and in person.
* ttcat: meeting with ODS folks + foreign ministry.
* TODO: merge submission. tomorrow at noon submission. itmisscs.
* PDF: 7-13 ppl from g0v.tw
* OCF.tw
* brief version:
* how manage operating systems?
* how to run sustainable system? no answer. g0v run by spare time people. freelance or remote work. housewife. cofounders. ppl who run project come and go. lots of rotation. try to not hold ppl by provide more people. on-ramp. 100-120 ppl showing up for free. sold out. very popular. civic tech grants to give them gap years/months. $10K grants. some ppl do quit jobs. after grants, got new funding. how to run sustainable? not too many jobs on core team. too many jobs will burn ppl out. try to separate out tasks. all community-building docs online. all guidelines, every template. for emails. for events.
* operating. 1st question. very strong open source communitys. COSCUP. annual conf. promoting open source. 12 year history. 2000 ppl. all volunteers. pycon. communities are NOT legal entities. will need to borrow company bank accounts. 2012 = g0v start. 2014 = ppl feel they need legal entity. if you start company, you only have one relationship with gov. need to be nonprofit in order for gov convos to stay open. 0rg. zero-rg. hackpad. fundraise $5M tw dollars. 1 wk. conferences gave half extra funding to org. supported by not only g0v but open source conference organizing community. act as legal entity for all these comnunities. virtually. org doesn't interfere with how ppl want to spend. as long as legal and invoice, just give money. hire staff core team. 2.5 ppl working on that. 20 different community projects. file invoice. when donations happen, give receipts. file taxes. accountant every 2 months. public release community donation. who donated how much. have a website for online fundraising for all the communities. members can donate. OCF core service is running logistics.
* @ttcat joined later. runs logistics for g0v community. civic tech grant or hackathon. hiring for more international networking. hiring, in fact. started digital rights project under networking perview. start collaboration projets. g0v.news. main purpose is under international networking.
* another part of job is hackathon organizer for g0v. half time on running bimonthly. jothon. "join hackathon". not a tech force. jothon is a small thing only for organizing hackathons. small thing for organizers. no trello board or record of meetings at first. hired 0.5 staff to help run logistics. now more staff, other cofounders. 5 or 6 ppl. regular meeting every tues standup, and every friday, cowork in OCF office.
* logistics: write scripts for repeating tasks. one script for initiating event. small talk in afternoon, everyone gets 8 min and 5 slots. save all energy for summit every 2 years.
* hackathon. missing one is 4 months.
* g0v just trying to run a community, doesn't need to have "success" -- removing that. task assignment is a bad road. it's too much like working. forgiveness. big big projects do happen. structure follows.