OSM US Pedestrian Working Group

# OpenStreetMap US Pedestrian Working Group Meeting Notes Evolving demands for pedestrian data are the highest ever, with OpenStreetMap being a natural space where organizations and individuals can collaborate to create the most detailed maps covering the broadest range of requirements. OpenStreetMap US launched the Pedestrian Working Group to coordinate efforts for mapping pedestrian features. Welcome! --- ## Links * OSM Wiki: [Pedestrian Working Group](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Pedestrian_Working_Group) * OSM Wiki: [PWG Guide](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Pedestrian_Working_Group/Guide) | [PWG Guide (Draft)](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Draft:Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Pedestrian_Working_Group/Guide) | [Discussion](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Draft:Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Pedestrian_Working_Group/Guide) * OSM Wiki: [PWG Schema](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Pedestrian_Working_Group/Schema) | [PWG Schema (Draft)](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Draft:Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Pedestrian_Working_Group/Schema) | [Discussion](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Draft:Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Pedestrian_Working_Group/Schema) * Google Docs: [PWG Schema Brainstorming](https://docs.google.com/document/d/10xwqph8Fq3W5LuRZVf7eQre0cI9rOgcfrnEP8ENFnjo/edit?usp=sharing) * Google Docs: [Sidewalk Map Brainstorming](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u-pYpQdkZB-mqZK_orLX276PLAf2Xhewzrb26eohT4k/edit?usp=sharing) * Notes Archive: [March 2024-2025](https://hackmd.io/@aacastronuovo/Bk1jT8GYle) --- # Meeting: October 21, 2025 3pm EDT ### Attendees (please sign in! Name, affiliation, location) 1. 2. 3. ### Agenda 1. 2. 3. ### Notes * * ### Next Steps * [] * [] --- # Meeting: September 16, 2025 3pm EDT ### Attendees (please sign in! Name, affiliation, location) 1. Amy Bordenave (Taskar Center @ UW, Seattle, WA) 2. Will I, Austin, TX 3. Clifford Snow, Mount Vernon, WA 4. [Gabriel R. Habinyak](https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Udarian), Miami Dade County, Fl 5. Chad Blevins, NOVA 6. Timmera Omidire, Meta 7. Quincy Morgan 8. Amy O'Hara, Noblis (in Northern VA) 9. Jerad Weiner, San Francisco Public Works, San Francisco, California, USA 10. Claire Fram, Applied Information Group, San Francisco 11. Gregory Power, Town of Cary (based in western VA) ### Agenda 1. Intros 2. OSM US Updates 1. New [Maintainers Working Group](https://openstreetmap.us/news/2025/08/mwg-announcement/) 2. Making PWG notes public? Anonymize? 4. OSM US Tasking Manager PWG organization added - how should we handle access? 5. Proposed schema updates 6. SidewalkMap (no updates at this time) 7. Mappy Hour - Can we settle on a date, typically on Wednesdays? (blackout dates 10/20-28) 8. Potential partnerships 1. [Safe Routes Partnership](https://www.saferoutespartnership.org/) Meeting 9/19 9:30am EDT 2. Get involved with your city - Richmond, VA as an example ### Notes * Discussion: Making these notes public * Chad: Suggested possibility of anonymizing these notes for publishing on the OSM Wiki * Quincy: Noted that other Working Groups' notes are not public either * Amy O'Hara: Suggested possibility of making the Agenda sections public but keeping everything else semi-private as is * Amy B: I volunteer to put the Agendas on the OSM Wiki, pending group approval * Amy B: Consensus / approval? From all: Yes, no objections. * Topic: Chad shared a link to a sidewalk mapping tool for QGIS: [OSM SidewalkKreator](https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/osm_sidewalkreator/) * Starts by creating geometry based on offsets from roadway centerlines * Discussion: PWG Tasking Manager organization * Chad: Will add people to the PWG org at request * Topic: Templates or boilerplate instructions * Amy B: TCAT has instructions created, but they need updating * Timmera: Confirmed that Meta also has some instructions prepared * All: Agreement on need for collaboration on this so that there's no conflicting instructions, but leaving room for projects to customize their instructions based on their goals * We should generally aim for Bronze / Silver Tier for the instructions * Jacob created [OSM US PWG Tasking Manager Templates doc](https://docs.google.com/document/d/18Vc1mMjDcGlzE7OMO7ocOLLom1TS1KM6lYA_pEBvGvQ/edit?usp=sharing) * Discussion: Scheduling the next PWG Mappy Hour * Chad: Asked for feedback on meeting date; no strong preferences from anyone, so we settled on October 15th * Gabriel: Proposed using the [Miami project](https://tasks.openstreetmap.us/projects/876) on the OSM US Tasking Manager as the target project * Discussion: Partnerships * Jacob Hall: MapRVA as an example of local advocacy * Held talks with Planning Comission * Jerad Weiner: Interest from San Francisco * Clifford: Data exists, but isn't broadly usable * Chad: Safe Routes partnership is a good opportunity * Discussion: Schema updates discussion lead by Amy B. * Update on implemented changes since last meeting * `tactile_paving=*` on ways moved to Diamond Tier * PWG Guide also updated to reflect that * New tag inclusion proposal: `crossing:signed` in Gold Tier * Amy B: Consensus? All: Yes, no objections. * ["sideness" proposal](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Draft:Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Pedestrian_Working_Group/Schema#Update_to_sidewalk-tagging_guidance_in_Roadways_section) * Clarification: This is about roadway-based sidewalks tags * Example: `sidewalk:both=no` vs `sidewalk=no` * Gabriel: Does `sidewalk:left=yes` imply `sidewalk:right=no` because it would be tagged `sidewalk:both=yes` if it were true that `sidewalk:right=yes`? * Jacob + Amy: No, one of the benefits of the sidedness approach is that it enables more accurate tagging without requiring implications * Clifford: Consider international (especially UK) perspectives as well in this discussion * Amy: Broad consensus on preferring sidedness suffixes, even in cases where there is an unambiguous and equivalent `sidewalk=*` tag that could be used? All: Yes, no objections. ### Next Steps * [ ] All: Contribute to [OSM US PWG Tasking Manager Templates doc](https://docs.google.com/document/d/18Vc1mMjDcGlzE7OMO7ocOLLom1TS1KM6lYA_pEBvGvQ/edit?usp=sharing) if able * [ ] Chad: Will add the following people to the OSM US PWG organization on the OSM US Tasking Manager: * [ ] Amy Bordenave (Accounts: UW Amy Bordenave + Lumikieju) * [ ] Amy: Will publish PWG Meeting Agendas on OSM Wiki * [x] Amy: Will add `crossing:signed=(yes|no)` to Gold Tier * [x] Amy: Will mark `crossing=signed` discussion as resolved on Talk page * [x] Amy: Will implement consensus-approved sidedness approach * [x] Amy: Will mark sidedness discussion as resolved on Talk page --- # Meeting: August 19, 2025 3pm EDT ### Attendees (please sign in! Name, affiliation, location) 1. Amy Bordenave (Taskar Center @ UW, Seattle, WA) 2. Clifford Snow Mount Vernon, WA 3. Tom Mueller, MassGIS 4. C.A.M. Gerlach (Core Dev Python/Spyder, Huntsville, AL) 5. Chad Blevins, Vienna VA 6. Will I, Austin, TX 7. Felipe Valdez, Philadelphia PA 8. Rob Delach, Athens Ohio 9. Ryan Liu (Taskar Center @ UW, Seattle, WA) 10. Cy Rossignol (Taskar Center @ UW, Seattle, WA) 11. Reg Nelson, Ontario Canada 12. Jacob Hall, [MapRVA](https://maprva.org) 13. Alyssa Castronuovo, OSM US ### Agenda 1. Intros 2. OSM US Updates - Alyssa 1. PWG quarterly newsletter - are you [subscribed](https://openstreetmap.app.neoncrm.com/subscribe.jsp?subscription=58)? 2. Join the conversation on the [OSM US Slack](https://slack.openstreetmap.us/) - we have a private PWG channel and a [`#sidewalks` channel](https://osmus.slack.com/archives/C6E4S4CQG) 1. Ask for an invite to the private PWG channel if you need one! 3. The OSM US and TeachOSM Tasking Managers are now updated! 3. July Mappy Hour recap - Alyssa 1. It inspired lots of great discussion about sidewalk mapping tools (see [here](https://osmus.slack.com/archives/C06N2P62W9Z/p1753926925287959), [here](https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/josm-sidewalk-plugin-tutorial/134088) and [here](https://mvexel.substack.com/p/pedestrian-safety-and-openstreetmap?r=662go&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true)) > Note that the first link is not publically accessable and the third is paywalled [name=CAM-Gerlach] 2. 38% -> 44% mapped and rising > Link/source? [name=CAM-Gerlach] > > see "[Project Timeline](https://tasks.openstreetmap.us/projects/438/stats)" [name=Alyssa Castronuovo] 3. Mappy Hour round 2 in October? 4. Make notes and PWG channel publicly accessible? 5. Review [proposed updates](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Draft:Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Pedestrian_Working_Group/Schema) to the Schema and Guide 1. And Jacob's [suggestion](https://osmus.slack.com/archives/C06N2P62W9Z/p1754235541332319) about `tactile_paving=*` on ways > Note that this is not publically accessable for some reason, so I don't know if it aligns with/duplicates what I was going to suggest here [name=CAM-Gerlach] > > @CAM-Gerlach I have added you to the private #osmus-pedestrian-working-group channel in Slack [name=Amy Bordenave] 2. Discuss `sidewalk=no` vs `sidewalk:both=no` ([link](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Draft:Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Pedestrian_Working_Group/Schema#Update_to_sidewalk-tagging_guidance_in_Roadways_section)) 3. Discuss moving `traffic_signals:minimap` to Diamond tier ([link](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Draft:Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Pedestrian_Working_Group/Schema#Move_`traffic_signals:minimap`_to_Diamond_Tier)) 4. Discuss tag duplication on crossing nodes and ways ([link](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Draft:Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Pedestrian_Working_Group/Schema#Should_surface_and_width_tags_really_be_required_(or_even_allowed)_on_the_node_as_well_as_the_way?)) 5. Discuss Jacob's additions of in-editor screenshots to the Guide ([link](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Pedestrian_Working_Group/Guide&diff=prev&oldid=2886935#In-editor_Examples)) 6. Potential partnerships 1. [Safe Routes Partnership](https://www.saferoutespartnership.org/) 2. Get involved with your city - Richmond example ### Notes * Tom is interested in a recording how-to for beginner sidewalk mappers * Feedback at Mappy Hour: Peole would like more time to map ped infra * Maybe could have another in October * Idea: Instead of skill level breakouts, could have iD vs JOSM breakouts * Put your names down here if you're interested in helping! Need some JOSM people * CAM can help with JOSM * [name=Amy Bordenave] can help with JOSM! * Maping notes/channel public * Main reason in the past to keep it private is it includes people's names, locations, employees and also potentially private thoughts * Jacob: These aren't nessesarily private meetings but takes some amount of effort to join so it can be more focused * CAM suggested [Chatham House Rule](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatham_House_Rule) * Tom: See a lot of back and forth this day and age, think we can move things we can into the sidewalks channel but not everything * Amy: At TCAT we want to make things as public as possible but also recognize the value of some internal-only spaces too * Chad: If we made this hackpad public how could we prevent other folks from editing? * CAM: Wouldn't really be directly possible * CAM: Would need to basically copy the notes into a seperate doc and sanitize any personal information * Alyssa: Yeah, was envisioning two separate Hackmds * Clifford: I think things should be completely open, trying to get more people involved in sidewalks so making it more open and getting more info out there makes things easier * Alyssa: Won't make this decision here in this meeting given link situation, put it up to vote in the Slack and maybe put out email to see how folks feel * With newsletter provide more context * (CAM: Maybe difficult to find? Didn't know about it until this meeting) * Not sure how willing people would be to search through the meeting notes to find things, maybe need something in between * Jacob: Maybe this is a good time to start opening things up now that its been a year and we have a more focused understanding of what we even are * CAM: One suggestion was to pose future discussions to the OSM Community Forum * Would open things up to more naysayers but transparency also could also help defry some concerns and hostility and othering of the group * Chad: maybe it's time to reset the stage for phase 2. Another survey? Additional partnerships? * Alyssa: Will put up a vote to our email list and discussion channel and talk about what that will look like in the future * CAM: Could offer a few different options and make it multiple or ranked choice? That's what I was thinking! * Schema suggestion discussion * We only recommend `tactile_paving=*` tags on curb nodes - any reason to map differently? * Clifford: what are the folks who need the tactile paving actually looking for? * CAM: requiring this tag on a way at a lower level tier may not be very useful, move up to Gold tier or higher? * Amy suggested via chat: move `tactile_paving=*` on `footway=crossing` ways to Diamond tier? * CAM: Was my thought too * Rob: Has not seen linear tactile ways in the US, though they appear elsewhere in the world * Rob: Just realized it myself, will need to go back and fix a bunch of my own in JOSM * Amy via chat: Linear "wayfinding bars" are common inside government buildings and around light rail stations in Seattle. * Amy via chat: These are rare and often mistagged - proposes putting `tactile_paving=*` on ways to Diamond tier * Jacob: A lot of editor presets used to have this misconception, though they are fixed now * Jacob: Am cool with Amy's suggestion, wanted to reduce duplication but doesn't have super strong preference * Chad: Diamond tier covers that base without having to do extra work * Amy: (Getting consensus) Any objections to moving the recommendations for tagging tactile paving on ways to Diamond tier? * (No objections) * Amy: (Getting consensus) Any objections to including specific language in the Guide to check the tactile paving tag on the way * (No objections) * Jacob: Think that's an appropriate warning * Amy: Will implement changes in Draft Schema and Draft Guide * Alyssa: How do we want to do voting? In meetings, on Slack, other things? * Jacob: Amy just wanted to make sure she had a good understanding of our group's current consensus and we're going to do approval as a group during the release process * Chad: That's how we've handled it as a group before, gotta take a stance, put your stake in the ground and if we realize its wrong we can move it * Alyssa: Sounds good, don't want to slow us down, can talk more when it gets closer to another release * Last thoughts * Clifford: Can we get an update next meeting on building sidewalk map * Alyssa: Nothing right now but can do an update next meeting ### Next Steps * [x] Amy Bordenave: Will implement edits to the Wiki based on consensus decisions regarding tactile paving * [x] 1. Schema: Move `tactile_paving=*` on ways to Diamond tier * [x] 2. Guide: Note that `tactile_paving=*` on `footway=crossing` ways is (in the US) almost always a mistake and encourage reviewing the tag when editing crossings * Alyssa: Put a vote out to Working Group members via the Slack and email list about making our Slack channel and meeting notes publicly available --- # Meeting: July 15, 2025 3pm EDT ### Attendees (please sign in! Name, affiliation, location) 1. Jacob Hall, [MapRVA](https://maprva.org) 2. Amy Bordenave (Taskar Center @ UW, Seattle, WA) 3. Nik Wilson (Taskar Center @ UW, Seattle, WA) 4. Cy Rossignol (Taskar Center @ UW, Seattle, WA) 5. Tom Mueller, (MassGIS) 6. Clifford Snow, Mount Vernon, WA 7. Chad Blevins, YouthMappers, VA 8. Quincy Morgan 9. Meagan Briganti (Kendall County, IL) 10. Adva Oshri (Georgia Tech) 11. Josh (Kendall Co. GIS) 12. James Umbanhowar (Minneapolis, MN) ### Agenda 1. Intros 2. OSM US updates 1. Thanks for a fantastic [State of the Map US](https://openstreetmap.us/events/state-of-the-map-us/2025/)! [BOF Notes](9https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vj_JY9BazD4S9vL8q7rC6u_9ghw4tUMyjEu4Yo1Rh4/edit?tab=t.0) 2. [OSM US summer microgrants](https://openstreetmap.us/get-involved/microgrants/) are open now through August 4 3. The ["Let's Map Some Sidewalks" Mappy Hour](https://openstreetmap.app.neoncrm.com/event.jsp?event=178&) is on July 30 at 8:00pm EST 3. Preview of Mappy Hour (we need someone to lead the intro group) 4. Dustin's [Speedwalk microgrant proposal](https://github.com/osmfoundation/ewg_bidding/issues/25) - show some support! 5. Clifford's [JOSM sidewalk presets](https://github.com/cliffordsnow/josm_sidewalk_presets) 6. Wiki discussion - what is left on our to do list? 7. Guide to mapping centerlines at triangular intersections? -Jacob ### Notes * Sidewalk mapping tools and resources * JOSM presets for sidewalk mapping * Clifford: https://github.com/cliffordsnow/josm_sidewalk_presets * Amy: https://github.com/Lumikeiju/osm-us-pwg?tab=readme-ov-file#presets * James recommends the [Sidewalks](https://github.com/tsmock/sidewalks) plugin in JOSM * Amy seconds recommending using these tools to make getting areas to the Bronze level much easier * Do we have a place to share tools/resources/tips for mapping sidewalks * Put resources on the Wiki and in the `#sidewalks` channel! * Josh has an Overpass query to find sidewalks in need of improvement * Jacob has an iD workflow from muscle memory... * OSM Wiki * Amy: I updated the [PWG Releases Table Template](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:PWG_Releases_Table) to link to the Draft and Talk pages * How do we propose changes to the Wiki? * Edit the Draft pages ([Guide](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Draft:Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Pedestrian_Working_Group/Guide), [Schema](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Draft:Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Pedestrian_Working_Group/Schema)) on the Wiki directly, and/or disucss proposed edits in the Draft Talk pages ([Guide](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Draft:Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Pedestrian_Working_Group/Guide), [Schema](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Draft:Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Pedestrian_Working_Group/Schema)) * Chad brings up that the Diamond tier is not in the Tier explanation tables * Amy: It was intentional that Diamond isn't immediately front and center, but we could add this clarification to the "Implementation" section * There's a "Tools" section on the main PWG Page ([link](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Pedestrian_Working_Group#Tools)) * Disussed possible adding ongoing projects to the "Get involved" section of the main PWG Wiki page * We may be able to query all projects related to sidewalks with a link to the OSM US Tasking Manager like https://tasks.openstreetmap.us/explore?omitMapResults=0&text=sidewalk * Or, tag some projects as "PWG friendly" / "PWG Schema-aligned" * Amy noted that OpenSidewalks now has its own Organization, Teams, and Projects on the OSM US TM * Group generally agrees that projects should be added individually on an opt-in basis * Jacob stressed that this schema is not enforcable * Add this language/make it more clear * Jacob's mapping question: Mapping centerlines can be ambiguous at complicated intersections, so how do I avoid awkward corners/unclear navigation? ([example location](https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/37.578980/-77.538383)) * Chad: Sometimes people map these as pedestrian areas, but routers don't like this * Quincy: You see the same problem with really wide roads; this is the nature of micromapping, and tagging the width of the feature could help visualize * Clifford: Keep this in consideration: Who are we mapping sidewalks for? * Chad: Routers will generalize some of these funny sharp angles * Amy shared example scenarios based on common ways to map road geometry in JOSM. A very detailed conversation about awkward angles and mapping centerlines ensued past the hour ### Next Steps * All: Add resources to the [Tools](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Pedestrian_Working_Group#Tools) section on the Wiki! * All: [Due 2025-07-25] Get your thoughts in about the next Guide and Schema release by July 25th! * Amy: Will complete the necessary Wiki work to publish 1.0.0 before the Mappy Hour * Chad/Amy/Alyssa: Add Tasking Manager projects and do outreach to project leads --- # Meeting: June 17, 2025 3pm EDT ### Attendees (please sign in! Name, affiliation, location) 1. Chad Blevins, YouthMappers, VA 2. Rob Delach, Athens OH 3. Cy Rossignol (Taskar Center @ UW, Seattle, WA) 4. Meagan Briganti, Kendall County, IL 5. James Umbanhowar, Minneapolis, MN 6. Troy Saltiel, Salt Lake City, UT (regularly attends OSM Utah meetings) 7. [Gabriel R. Habinyak](https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Udarian), Miami Dade County, Fl 8. Amy Bordenave (Taskar Center @ UW, Seattle, WA) 9. Elliott Plack, Maryland DOT GIS & DWG (unofficial affliation for pwg), Baltimore, MD 10. Gregory Power, Town of Cary 11. Adva Oshri, Georgia Tech 12. Alyssa Castronuovo, OSM US ### Agenda 1. Intros 2. OSM US updates 1. [State of the Map US](https://openstreetmap.us/events/state-of-the-map-us/2025/) is this week! Check last month's notes for presentations from PWG members! 2. Update from PWG (Chad) - feedback on slides 4. July Mappy Hour planning 5. Wiki updates (now we're in version 1.0.0-beta!) 1. Amy 2. David (via [Slack](https://osmus.slack.com/archives/C06N2P62W9Z/p1750100435985769)) 1. Contribute to Kerb Kit discussions [here](https://github.com/thompsondt/osm-kerb-kit/discussions) ### Notes * Chad presented and sought feedback on a preview of the slides he's prepared for his SOTM US presentation on the PWG * Uber actively contributes to pedestrian data; Lyft uses OSM data and contributes with roadway-focused edits * Mappy Hour - send RSVP link to PWG emails, coming soon! * OSM Wiki * Amy's updates: * Created evergreen shortcut links pointing to the latest version * [wiki.osm.org/PWG](https://wiki.osm.org/PWG) * [wiki.osm.org/PWG Guide](https://wiki.osm.org/PWG_Guide) * [wiki.osm.org/PWG Schema](https://wiki.osm.org/PWG_Schema) * Created release "snapshot" pages * [PWG Guide v1.0.0-beta](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Pedestrian_Working_Group/Guide/1.0.0-beta) * [PWG Schema v1.0.0-beta](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Pedestrian_Working_Group/Schema/1.0.0-beta) * Created header/footer templates * [PWG Header](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:PWG_Header) * [PWG Releases Table](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:PWG_Releases_Table) * Removed "draft" language * Standardized structure * Main Pages: Always-up-to-date pages with the latest full release * Main Talk Pages: Not-to-be-used; redirect to Draft Talk Pages * Release Pages: Snapshots of each versioned release * Release Talk Pages: Not-to-be-used; redirect to Draft Talk Pages * Draft Pages: Continually open work-in-progress page for prototyping upcoming changes * Draft Talk Pages: Collaborative space for proposing and discussing upcoming changes * David's updates on OSM Kerb Kit (via Chad, via Slack): * Contribute and give suggestions on [GitHub](https://github.com/thompsondt/osm-kerb-kit/discussions)! * Discussion on new tag for pedestrian crossing flags, added in Diamond tier * [OSM Wiki - crossing:flags](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:crossing:flags) ### Next Steps * See y'all at SOTM US! --- # Meeting: May 20, 2025 3pm EDT ### Attendees (please sign in! Name, affiliation, location) 1. Clifford Snow, Mount Vernon, WA 2. Chad Blevins, YouthMappers, VA 3. [Gabriel R. Habinyak](https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Udarian) (Miami Dade County) 4. Tom Mueller, MassGIS 5. Dustin Carlino, A/B Street Ltd (London) 6. Amy Bordenave (Taskar Center @ UW, Seattle, WA) 7. Alyssa Castronuovo, OSM US 8. Jacob Hall, [MapRVA](https://maprva.org) 9. Amy O'Hara (Noblis) 10. Adva Oshri, Georgia Tech 11. Ira Pathak, Georgia Tech 12. Troy Saltiel 13. David Thompson 14. Elizabeth Sall, [UrbanLabs LLC](https://urbanlabs.io) 15. Arianna LaGamma ### Agenda 1. Intros 2. OSM US updates 1. [State of the Map US](https://openstreetmap.us/events/state-of-the-map-us/2025/) feat. the Pedestrian Working Group! 1. "PWG Updates" - Chad Blevins, Friday 2. "Safe Routes to School" - Clifford, Friday 4. "Pedestrian Mapping BoF" - Friday 5. "Mapping FXBGO! Bus Stops" - Arianna LaGamma, Saturday 6. "How we Mapped the Richmond Water Crisis" - Jacob Hall, Daniel Schep, Friday 7. A poster about AccessMap, Sam Yasen 2. Mapillary Camera Grant 2.0 (2025) applications ongoing 1. [OSM US Blog](https://openstreetmap.us/news/2025/04/mapillary-grant-2.0/) | [Mapillary Blog](https://blog.mapillary.com/update/2025/04/10/announcing-camera-grant-program-v2) | [Apply!](https://forms.gle/ovMLsrvpZk1F8Zrm8) 4. Quarterly update went out on Monday - are you [subscribed](https://openstreetmap.app.neoncrm.com/subscribe.jsp?subscription=58)? 3. Wiki progress status updates from... 1. How do we move this from Draft? [wiki](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Draft:Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Pedestrian_Working_Group/Schema) 2. Update from Jacob - in-editor screenshots 3. Links to other [OSM sidewalk wiki](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:sidewalk) 4. Remaining to-dos on the schema and/or quick start guide? 4. Update on building a sidewalk map (add your thoughts [here](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u-pYpQdkZB-mqZK_orLX276PLAf2Xhewzrb26eohT4k/edit?usp=sharing)) 1. Goals for the map 2. Use cases/audience 3. Potential features 4. Necessary resources (developer, designers, ped data guru, etc.) 5. Dustin Carlino - [proof of concept presentation](https://github.com/a-b-street/speedwalk) 6. Highlighting our work 1. SotM US presentations 2. July/Aug Mappy Hour? How to map sidewalks in OSM 3. Check Slack channel poll results ### Notes - OSM Wiki pages: Moving out of the "Draft:" namespace - Jacob: How do we communicate removing the word "draft" to the OSM community? - Amy: Consider "versioning" or "beta" - Chad: Promote on the community forum, and link other pedestrian-related wiki pages as resources - Alyssa: Introduce via the OSM US blog - Tom: And other avenues like LinkedIn - Potential Mappy Hour? July 30th got the most votes - Promote at ESRI UC on July 16th - Still to do (Amy, Chad, and David) - Clarify geographic scope - start with the US? - Determine versioning - saving histories of prior pages - Final review before pushing to beta/v1 before next meeting - Jacob's in-editor screenshot/rendering updates - David created some mockup svgs and presented them - they can be edited to show different scenarios - [Github repo](https://github.com/thompsondt/osm-kerb-kit) - roadways and crossings will be stylized - We need to determine the examples we need - Jacob will compile early list - Gabriel willing to help mock up through posted Github issues - We took 5 minutes to contribute to the pedestrian webmap brainstorming doc - Dustin presented "Speedwalk", a proof of concept visualizer for mapping sidewalks according to bronze standards - Red = no parallel sidewalks mapped yet - You can edit and add separate sidewalk tags where none exist and save to OSM (or generate OSM changefiles for you to edit/verify in iD or JOSM) - To help transition folks to mapping separate sidewalk geometry - Clifford: integrate styling with our sidewalk map? ### Next Steps - Amy Bordenave: Will update the OSM Wiki, pending further discussion on Slack ([link](https://osmus.slack.com/archives/C06N2P62W9Z/p1747771232467559)) [done] - Copy `Draft:Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Pedestrian_Working_Group/Schema` → (new) `Foundation/Local Chapters/United States/Pedestrian Working Group/Schema` [done] - Copy `Draft:Foundation/Local Chapters/United States/Pedestrian Working Group/Guide` → (new) `Foundation/Local Chapters/United States/Pedestrian Working Group/Guide` [done] - Copy `Foundation/Local Chapters/United States/Pedestrian Working Group/Schema` → (new) `Foundation/Local Chapters/United States/Pedestrian Working Group/Schema/1.0.0-beta` [done] - Copy `Foundation/Local Chapters/United States/Pedestrian Working Group/Guide` → (new) `Foundation/Local Chapters/United States/Pedestrian Working Group/Guide/1.0.0-beta` [done] - Create `PWG Schema` redirect page to `Foundation/Local Chapters/United States/Pedestrian Working Group/Schema` [done] - Create `PWG Guide` redirect page to `Foundation/Local Chapters/United States/Pedestrian Working Group/Guide` [done] - Update `Foundation/Local Chapters/United States/Pedestrian Working Group` --- # Meeting: April 15, 2025 3pm EDT ### Attendees (please sign in! Name, affiliation, location) 1. David Thompson, OSM Contributor, Connecticut 2. Clifford Snow, DWG, Mount Vernon, WA 3. Amy Bordenave (Taskar Center @ UW, Seattle, WA) 4. Quincy Morgan, OSM US 5. Alyssa Castronuovo, OSM US 6. Philip Liang, USDOT, Washington, DC 7. Amy O'Hara 8. Arianna LaGamma 9. Jacob Hall [MapRVA](https://maprva.org) 10. Gregory Power (Cary, NC) 11. Cy Rossignol (Taskar Center @ UW, Seattle, WA) 12. [Gabriel R. Habinyak](https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Udarian) (Miami Dade County) ### Agenda 1. Intros? 2. OSM US updates 1. The SotM US poster session deadline is THIS FRIDAY! Submit your idea [here](https://forms.gle/ETevtJTV2xH41JRS7). 1. One day tickets are now on sale too! 2. Two new grant programs: OSM US Microgrants & the Mapillary Camera Grant 2.0 1. [Microgrant blog post](https://openstreetmap.us/news/2025/04/microgrants-announcement/) (Applications for this cycle close on May 5) 2. [Mapillary blog post](https://openstreetmap.us/news/2025/04/mapillary-grant-2.0/) (Applications accepted on a rolling basis until all 40 cameras are distributed) 3. Wiki progress status updates from... 1. David - reformatting suggestions on the [wiki](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Draft:Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Pedestrian_Working_Group/Schema) 2. Jacob - in-editor screenshots 3. Gregory - "anatomy of a sidewalk" 4. Remaining to dos on the schema and/or quick start guide? 4. Building a sidewalk map 5. How do we spread the word about our work? 1. July/Aug Mappy Hour? How to map sidewalks in OSM ### Notes * Wiki progress * David showed us his fantastic table creation on the draft wiki page! * Amy: update the use of the word "depreciate" * Jacob: how would we incorporate images into the table? Maybe on tier-specific pages there would be enough room * Clifford: should we incorporate "living roads", not many in the US, Philip: incorporate features related rail safety * All: Agreed that the table is the better way to communicate the tiers and can replace the list format * Jacob: in-editor screenshots * Working on adding annotations to accompany editor screenshots * If you have interest in working on this, reach out to Jacob! * With svgs, the text may appear in search engines, or the annotations could be toggled on/off * David offered to create an example where you can visualize the different tiers * Images are at risk of becoming too crowded with info * Amy shared [this repo](https://github.com/TaskarCenterAtUW/tdei-tools/tree/main/images) of mostly-CC0 images of pedestrian infrastructure and related features * Gregory: coworking next meeting! * Sidewalk map * Goals: * Clifford: People can view their city and see what is/isn't mapped - the first step * Clifford: include pedestrian-specific features not currently included on OSM.org (like crossing signs) * Clifford: routing potentially, isochrone to see walkability within 15-20 minutes, inspiration from UW accessmap * [draft pedestrian map tiles](https://github.com/osmus/tileservice/blob/main/renderer/layers/pedestrian.yml), next step would fork OpenTrailMap to develop the viewer * What tags do we focus on? What do we want the map to do? Domain name? * Tiles updated about every 4 hours - works for us! Doesn't work if mappers want to see their results from a mapping campaign asap * Next meeting: corwork on a sidewalk map wishlist? hackathon on the viewer * David: who is our audience? * Quincy: you may be able to toggle public versus qa views * Sidewalk mappy hour?? * July/August - Wednesday evenings * Jacob and Arianna offered to help! * Intro and then joint mapping on a Tasking Manager project * Alyssa to come up with some dates and poll the slack channel * Additional features to consider in our schema: bollards/barriers to protect pedestrian areas, other traffic calming or pedestrian safety features, pedestrian areas --- # Looking for meeting notes prior to April, 2025? Check out our [notes archive](https://hackmd.io/@aacastronuovo/Bk1jT8GYle).

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