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    --- title: "2015-Nepal-HOT-Activation-FAQ-in-Tawain/2015尼泊爾地震救難行動FAQ" tags: hackpad --- # 2015-Nepal-HOT-Activation-FAQ-in-Tawain/2015尼泊爾地震救難行動FAQ > [點此觀看原始內容](https://osmtw.hackpad.tw/T23YYSb39zE) 2015-Nepal-HOT-Activation-FAQ-in-Tawain/2015尼泊爾地震救難行動FAQ ## 說明 開放街圖由於彈性的編修程序,以及採用群眾編輯的方式,能夠快速繪製災害區所需地圖。開放街圖藉由數次災難和人道危機中大顯神威,提供第一線救災單位可靠的救災圖資。但在臺灣因為政治人物響應轉發訊息,被敵對陣營攻擊,開放街圖也遭到連帶攻擊,質疑生產地圖流程不嚴謹。這邊將列一些常見的疑問,以及相關爭議的說明敘述。 ### 相關連結: [http://hackfoldr.org/nepal-hot/](http://hackfoldr.org/nepal-hot/) [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015\_Nepal\_earthquake](http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_Nepal_earthquake) ## 常見問題FAQ **鍵盤救災目標** - 災後由於高空雲層較多,最新衛星圖不容易看出地面狀態。社群工作主要以空照圖遠端涵蓋災區路網與建築物,再由當地志工反應實際路況。此圖資可產生為 Garmin GPS 裝置資料庫與 OSMAnd 離線圖庫供智慧型手機使用。 - 由於主要都市未做都市規劃,尼泊爾當地路網複雜,且地圖精密度與更新度不足,開放街圖圖資可協助外地志工迅速掌握當地路網。 - 徵求義工情報 \- \[HOT\] Nepal Earthquake Mapping- REQUEST FOR HELP [https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/2015-April/008062.html](https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/2015-April/008062.html) - 衛星圖情報 \- \[HOT\] DigitalGlobe Imagery for Nepal [https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/2015-April/008160.html](https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/2015-April/008160.html) 重開已驗證圖磚 在 HOT Activation 專案中,為了能夠快速分工完成繪圖進度,避免志工同時更新同一圖磚,因此必須透過 [OSM Tasking Manager ](http://tasks.hotosm.org/)  協調志工的工作範圍。但是新手可能不夠理解[協同工作流程](http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/tasking-manager/) ,以致[重新開啟已經驗證的區域](https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/2015-April/008191.html) 。 目前在 HOT 的Task Manager 的新繪圖任務,已經加上以下的新手需知: NOTE TO BEGINNERS Welcome and we appreciate your contribution! If you have not mapped before, please TAKE THE TIME to follow tutorials from the mapgive and learnosm sites before you join in with the current tasks. 給初學者: 我們很歡迎你參與和貢獻!如果你先前沒畫過地圖,在加入繪製任務前,請先花時間閱讀 mapgive 和 learnosm 的新手教學。 MapGive:[http://mapgive.state.gov/learn-to-map/](http://mapgive.state.gov/learn-to-map/) LearnOSM:[http://learnosm.org/en/](http://learnosm.org/en/) > 我想翻譯這個 [https://github.com/hotosm/learnosm](https://github.com/hotosm/learnosm) > [name=雨蒼 林] > 請問台灣有誰正在翻譯,有Fork出來的Repository嗎? > [name=雨蒼 林] > 我有在翻 > [name=Supaplex] > [https://github.com/Supaplextw/learnosm/tree/Chinese%28TW%29/_posts/zh-tw](https://github.com/Supaplextw/learnosm/tree/Chinese%28TW%29/_posts/zh-tw) > [name=Supaplex] > 翻譯LearnOSM這件事討論好久,之前的翻譯 [http://wiki.opendata.tw/doku.php?id=osmbg:start](http://wiki.opendata.tw/doku.php?id=osmbg:start) 討論串 [https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-tw/2012-November/000606.html](https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-tw/2012-November/000606.html) > [name=Dongpo] **大家畫的地圖有人用嗎?** 有,不少救難單位在出發前往災區時,向 HOT 發出請求,請他們號召群眾繪製當地地圖。本次災後,國際紅十字會即[請求支援提供手機軟體 OSMAnd](http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap.hot/7451)  之最新災區圖資。 **用災前的衛星影像來畫地圖有意義嗎?** **不是有可能畫到已經被震壞的道路或建築,不怕會誤導使用地圖的人嗎?** 有不少地方在災難發生前地圖上沒什麼資料,頂多基本路網,使用災難前的衛星圖資能豐富路網,標上人口聚集區。在災難發生後,這些地方也是救難資源要到達的地方。後續已有衛星圖資商捐災後圖資給 HOT 使用。 **如果這是重要緊急的任務,萬一經驗不足畫錯了怎麼辦?** 協同工具 HOT Tasks Manager 有複查的機制,經過其他人確認過正確性後才會標示為完成,如果亂複查也會被抓出來。 ![](https://hackpad-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/osmtw.hackpad.com_T23YYSb39zE_p.192101_1430304190670_2015-04-29_18-42-46.png) **臺灣相關報導與回響** 雨蒼在[臉書](https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10206334564859959&set=a.4811161873909.2192213.1142107210&type=1&comment_id=10206364603250900&offset=0&total_comments=232&ref=notif&notif_t=mentions_comment)和八卦板貼文,號召鍵盤志工來畫尼泊爾地圖協助救災,後來 g0v.tw 粉絲頁也[響應轉貼](https://www.facebook.com/g0v.tw/posts/906040212770599)。網路原生媒體如關鍵評論網就有報導雨蒼發出的號召訊息 蔡英文粉絲頁[搭上 PrayForNepal 的圖片,轉發雨蒼的訊息](https://www.facebook.com/tsaiingwen/photos/a.10151242056081065.442660.46251501064/10152651639131065/?type=1&theater) 。主流媒體報導紛紛依據這則粉絲頁訊息,報導蔡英文呼籲一起來鍵盤繪製尼泊爾圖資,幫助救災。 **網路批評** 最早見到的網路批評來自徐子涵,他看到 Missing  Map Project 粉絲頁的抱怨新手貼文,轉到個人頁面評論。他說救災需要專業的人來進行,製圖的專業不是一般民眾能做的。 稍後聯合影音採訪徐子涵 [(](https://video.udn.com/news/309347)[https://video.udn.com/news/309347](https://video.udn.com/news/309347)[)](https://video.udn.com/news/309347) ,以開放街圖基金會會員身份發言,談論的內容與他在個人粉絲頁的內容差不多。不過記者採訪時並未搞清楚發起行動的組織,並不是開放街圖基金會,而是 Humanitarian Openstreetmap Team。報導稍後被指正與發起單位的立場不符。 徐子涵的貼文使得 Missing Map Project 的抱怨新手貼文在臺灣人之間流傳,而變態箱與不笑熊粉絲專頁的經營者也看到,決定拿這點來攻擊蔡英文與開放街圖參與者。 ![](https://hackpad-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/osmtw.hackpad.com_T23YYSb39zE_p.200184_1430295286615_11149307_1588347498075030_6454818884651856861_n.jpg) [https://www.facebook.com/1472939446282503/photos/a.1472954112947703.1073741828.1472939446282503/1588347498075030/?type=1&theater](https://www.facebook.com/1472939446282503/photos/a.1472954112947703.1073741828.1472939446282503/1588347498075030/?type=1&theater) 2015年4月29日,由變態箱民與不笑熊粉絲專頁發佈的圖片,對於蔡英文轉貼的鍵盤救災行動,將相關質疑繪製成圖片流傳。到了晚上,有網友張中一拿這張圖質疑開放街圖圖資公信力,對救災行動的幫助緩不濟急,引起熱烈討論。 報導的隔天,徐子涵[澄清報導內容](https://www.facebook.com/thschee/posts/10152940069009790),用詞方面是記者誤解,所謂的專業社群指的是像OpenStreetMap Taiwan社群,而網路社群指的是被擴散的消息觸及加入的人。 **原發起單位的立場:歡迎新手,加強指引與教學** 發起行動統籌任務的 Humanitarian Openstreetmap Team 核心成員在討論群組中,持續表達「歡迎新手」的發言,也陸續加強新手指引、教學、及資深圖客的支援,並對 Missing Map Project 拒絕新手發文有疑慮。Missing Map Projects 拒絕新手參與的貼文在發文當天已先隱藏,並於一天後 (2015/04/29)撤下。 節錄討論串中,HOT 董事 Pierre Béland 的發言: ![](https://hackpad-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/osmtw.hackpad.com_T23YYSb39zE_p.181865_1430301465078_Screen%20Shot%202015-04-29%20at%2017.57.29.png) **Pierre Béland:** "This remembers such experiences for the Ebola outbreak. With a long Activation, we saw contributors that did improve rapidly and did a great job. They were in the top list of contributors. This is social gathering, and we have to take care to accompany well the new contributors." I did make some comments over the last year about improvements to make to our monitoring tools. We should surely continue to look at this and assure we have the possibility to both keep our reactivity and produce quality mapping. \[請翻譯\] 這讓我想起了伊波拉病毒危機發生時的經驗。在此長久的活動中,我們看到了許多貢獻者持續進步、且真的做的很好,他們改善了粗糙的地圖。他們都在卓越貢獻者列表中。 這是一場社群集結行動,而我們必須用心照顧、陪伴新血。 > 聯歡太歡樂了....社群互動?社會集結? > [name=ipa c] > 不知道怎麼形容「網友聚集在一起作一件事」,可能要請au看有沒有好詞? > [name=雨蒼 林] > 呼叫 au > [name=ipa c] > 社群集結,我們必須留意多加陪伴新成員 > [name=S C] > 社群結合行動。眾志成城,我們得關心、陪伴這些新血。 > [name=Ritsu T] > 上兩樓都翻得很好。已加起來成為「社群集結行動」。 > [name=Audrey T] > (au 看到 gathering 只會連到「社群風雲會」,此謂之刻板印象。XD) > [name=Audrey T] 節錄討論串中,HOT 董事會主席 Heather Leson 的發言: ![](https://hackpad-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/osmtw.hackpad.com_T23YYSb39zE_p.181865_1430301526338_Screen%20Shot%202015-04-29%20at%2017.58.32.png) **Heather Leson:** "HOT is an open community. All of us have different skills and skill-sets, we come from different cultures and are global. This is what makes us amazing, and it is also hard. For all the new mappers, please do read the guides and ask questions on the various channels. There are so many mappers here. It should always be a safe place to ask a question on the mailing list or IRC or mumble. This is part of the learning journey. Yes, we have some changes to make and we will do so, but we are very much guided by our Code of Conduct and our desire to grow and support people with maps." \[請翻譯\] 「人道救援製圖組」(HOT) 是一個開放的社群。我們每一個人都有不同的技能專長,來自全球不同文化。這種多元性使 HOT 意義非凡,但工作也因此十分困難。新的地圖編輯者請詳閱操作指南,並在不同社群平台上盡量向地圖編輯者提問。這些平台都是友善的提問環境,可透過電子信箱、IRC 或 mumble 提問。提問也是學習的一部分。我們確實還有能改進之處,也正在努力,但我們深受社群行為準則的指引,更希望能持續成長,繼續用地圖來助人。 > 試譯,請熟悉HOT的朋友檢查 > [name=Ritsu T] > 稍微依實際情形修飾譯文 > [name=Supaplex] **HOT 發出正式聲明** 4/30 HOT 提出官方澄清聲明,表示歡迎新手,也感謝台灣 OSM 社群的貢獻。 節譯:即使在災時,我們也歡迎新手貢獻者,但也建議他們和本地社群取得聯繫,並先看過基礎的教學文件。HOT 是一個開放社群,建立在開放且包容的參與,我們也持續打造更好用的工具,來讓不同經驗程度的圖客都能參與。(..中略...) 我們希望鼓勵並支持台灣的 OSM 社群,並感謝他們在全球行動中的參與。 ![](https://hackpad-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/osmtw.hackpad.com_T23YYSb39zE_p.181865_1430483722578_Screen%20Shot%202015-05-01%20at%2020.34.34.png) 文件網址:[http://bit.ly/1bXn8Kc](http://bit.ly/1bXn8Kc) **Missing Map Project 刪文說明** 隨後 Missing Map Project 也於 fb [提出聲明](http://on.fb.me/1GMZxZF),解釋稍早刪文的錯誤。 ![](https://hackpad-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/osmtw.hackpad.com_T23YYSb39zE_p.181865_1430484041136_Screen%20Shot%202015-05-01%20at%2020.40.24.png) ## 台灣OSM社群的回應 > osm 有要回應嗎?先標,不適合再請osm大大斟酌。 > [name=ipa c] > [https://www.facebook.com/groups/OpenStreetMap.TW/permalink/856341744431296/](https://www.facebook.com/groups/OpenStreetMap.TW/permalink/856341744431296/) > [name=Supaplex] > 目前還都是個人身份,這篇討論串等結束後大概就會是社群共識 > [name=Supaplex]

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