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    # 09/04 RAG project會議紀錄 ## 會議的日期、時間、地點 Google meet 2024/09/04 `17:00 - 19:00` ## 參加會議人員 應到:曜誠、淳瑜、政叡、玟樺、Owen學長、Anna學姊 實到:曜誠、淳瑜、政叡、玟樺、彥汝、Owen學長、Anna學姊、Emily 未到:無 ## 上次會議待辦事項 1. 會議記錄錄影轉成文字: 兩次會議(8/14, 8/21),已轉成文字,還未summary 2. 列出測試集資料規格: 上週已完成 3. 教育雲資料QA-pair生成形式: 已整理出目前獨到的ragas與RGB論文中曾使用過的方式,上週初步討論後,有跟玟樺、政叡進一步討論,[討論紀錄連結](https://hackmd.io/@KSLab-M0/Hy7wxfiiC) 4. EIC_RAG實驗(w/Emily): 進行中 5. [Rag實驗組的排列組合](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xHSgbIlisAmElZ8irFGstPF57GcPcayhunrBqWcGzrQ/edit?gid=0#gid=0) 6. RGB ATK dataset: 待Ragas前兩個部件survey完再和generator一起研究 ## 本次會議重點 ### RAG 1. 租了一個AI/ML API,用租的API可能會比自己架還要快,測試完效果不錯的模型如gemma, llama,做EIC實驗的時候可以嘗試抽換模型 2. RAG的project可以包括架一個網站,在新的LLM出來時即時平測 3. 論文開頭 - `3.4 Rag evaluation`,9個指標和公式先放上去(latex online editor) - 可以把開會的文字紀錄貼到overleaf上,之後的紀錄也要慢慢放上,邊工作邊紀錄 - 語言中英文都可以,再交由emily處理翻譯成英文的部分 - Alt+S存檔compile 4. RAG test bed - 要抽換的資料集: 教育雲的資料/有開源的QA+knowledge的資料集 - 要先測試的排列組合(論文上的表格設計,要用latex編輯出來): - embedding model: google-bert, gemini, Qwen, Open-ai - embedding model換掉應該沒有很難,但牽涉到資料insert: Emily看要花多少時間 - 最後的generation model(LLM) - 前面的實驗會影響後面的,做完後再決定論文的撰寫方向 > telecon的排列組合: 不同的model(finetune or pretraining), 不同的K, 不同的embedding model.etc ### 教育雲 1. Query種類可以用task來表示 - 如何列出教學活動的ground truth - 國語的QA往百科的方向走 - 自然往媒體影音的方向走: 資料有點少的問題,之後驗證時可能會叫RAG考考卷,如果考太爛會宣告目前這單元資料量不足 - 現階段先不管其他科目 (只做國文和自然) - 通用型指令集的方向: 要跟研發團隊溝通(可稍候),可以想像成是對整個系統的FAQ 2. QA-pair生成 - (法一)從教育雲資料集提取,步驟如下 1. 收斂教育雲上有那些data source是可以使用的,不同source有不同提取pipeline - 影音轉文字: 先不要做太多,轉完後先驗證 - PDF > OCR > GPT改寫 2. 先挑資料量多的章節: 自然,水的奇妙現象 3. 將文字資料給GPT生成QA-pair,約50題 4. 給老師驗證 - (法二)用有ground truth的期中考卷改寫 3. 統整自然哪個年級的資料最多 4. 大百科不是叫大百科 5. 教學活動流程符合哪些理論基礎 6. 教學活動設計實驗(ex. 控制組...) 7. 第三個我問題忘了 ## 待辦事項 ### RAG 1. 9個指標寫上overleaf 2. 第一個實驗要換embedding model, LLM,先拉表格出來(google sheet & latex) 3. 繼續survey RAG components ### 教育雲 1. 實驗設置,對照組跟實驗組的實驗流程 2. 教學活動隊應的理論 3. 學生學習表現如何驗收? 4. 教學實驗設計化成流程圖

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