# Meeting 22 November 2021

## About

During these meetings, we will be conforming to [The Carpentries Code of Conduct](https://docs.carpentries.org/topic_folders/policies/code-of-conduct.html).

**Regular calls: 4th Monday of the month, 16:00-17:00 UK time (BST or GMT)**

**Meeting details are shared via [local-uk mailing list](https://carpentries.topicbox.com/groups/local-uk) and [The Carpentries community calendar](https://carpentries.org/community/#community-events).**

**Community's HackMD workspace: https://hackmd.io/team/local-uk?nav=overview**

**Previous meetings: https://hackmd.io/V3ReKkEESzqyCNxWJdulOw#Meetings**

## Meeting Minutes
**Time:**

**Location:** Zoom URL: https://zoom.us/j/95360073649

**Chair:** Aleks Nenadic (cover for Alex Konovalov)

**Timekeeper:**

**Notetaker:** Phil Reed

### Agenda
0. Assign notetaker & timekeeper
1. Sign in & ice-breaker
1. Review of actions
1. Lucia: OWL camera experience for hybrid teaching (ongoing)
2. Ed: Git lesson improvements: issue then pull requests required. For SWC and LC.(ongoing)
3. Announcements
- [Intemediate software development skills - new course by SSI in Incubator](https://github.com/carpentries-incubator/python-intermediate-development)
- [Library Carpentry learner survey results and analysis](https://rstudio.cloud/project/3213450)
5. Speaker sign up - [add yourname](https://hackmd.io/@local-uk/rkkzBTLOd)!
7. Instructor Training checkout questions
8. General discussion
- Return to in-person teaching/workshops
- Feelings about attenging in-person events in general
- Feelings about/experiences of hybrid events
10. Chair for the next meeting - [add your name](https://hackmd.io/@local-uk/rkPK1Si7F)
11. Wrap-up/AOB

### Sign-in

Name/pronoun if you like/ institution / optionally put "(checkout)" if you are here for the Instructor Training checkout:

1. Colin Sauze / Aberystwyth University
2. Aleks Nenadic / (she/her) / University of Manchester
3. Mario Antonioletti / SSI or University of Edinburgh
4. Ed Bennett / Swansea University
5. Phil Reed (he/him) / University of Manchester
6. Nilani Ganeshwaran (she/her) / University of Manchester
7. Jannetta Steyn / (she/her) / Newcastle University
8. Jez Cope / he/him / The British Library
9. Eirini Zormpa (she/her)/ TU Delft (but I live in the UK?)
11. David Pérez-Suárez / he-him / UCL
12. Sarah Jaffa /she /UCL
13. Lucia Michielin/ she/ UoE
...

### Icebreaker
What is your favourite (or one of favourite) font(s)?

1. Aleks: Proxima Nova
2. Mario: Comic sans
3. Colin: wingdings
4. Jez: [Iosevka family](https://typeof.net/Iosevka/)
5. Nilani: Calibri
6. Phil: Johnston (London Underground with diamond dot above 'i')
7. Ed: Palatino
8. Eirini: Lato
9. Sarah: [font trying to illustrate how it feels to be dyslexic](https://www.wired.co.uk/article/font-shows-what-dyslexia-is-like) and [some fonts ddesigned to combat dyslexia](https://opendyslexic.org/)
- From Jez: https://opendyslexic.org/ is free and cites actual research on its website

### Notes

#### 2. Review of actions

- Mario and Lucia: OWL camera experience for hybrid teaching (ongoing)
- Needs a key. Still ongoing.
- Ed: Git lesson improvements: issue then pull requests required. For SWC and LC.(ongoing)
- Close action. Unix Extras has some SSH content (early stage of development), some improvements to this lesson at https://github.com/SCW-Aberystwyth/shell-extras. Some success with SSH.

#### 3. Announcements

##### 3.1 [Intermediate software development skills - new course by SSI in Incubator](https://github.com/carpentries-incubator/python-intermediate-development)
Course is available to reuse, comment.
Workshop pilot 6-10 December 2021: https://softwaresaved.github.io/2021-12-06-ssi-lsst-uk/

##### 3.2 [Library Carpentry learner survey results and analysis](https://rstudio.cloud/project/3213450)
Mario and Eirni offered to help analyse free text responses in R.

##### 3.3 [Software Carpentry London/South East](https://rslondon.github.io/2021-12-08-rslondon-python-online/)
Bash, git and Python; 8th-10th December

#### 4. Speaker sign up - [add yourname](https://hackmd.io/@local-uk/rkkzBTLOd)!
Pick one of the slots and leave your contact details.

#### 5. Instructor Training checkout questions

Q: When does a self-organised workshop appear on the website?
A: This is a manual process, some scripts run daily to update after that. If a workshop doesn't have lat and long, it doesn't classify as published. Also, private ones don't appear. May be a default 0,0 for online workshops.

Q: Should we put every workshop through the process? A: Benefit to the organisation is the survey data, impact measurment. Benefit to you is also the surveys.

Q: What is the etiquette of attending workshops at other institutions? Online operation, public, can get too many registrations from outside. Should we refer people to others' workshops? A: No clear unanimous answer, can use codes/waiting lists for Eventbrite, notes (if they are read). Should we be thinking about time zones rather than distance being the deciding factor as to who can/should come?

Q: Should we run open workshops, does that make more sense now? Could try a UK-wide event for software skills.

Q: Is there a model where instructor's time is minimised? With a pool of people so it is more sustainable? Looking to make a formal mechanism to get Carpentries to be implemented at an institution.
Contact Jannetta. Talk about numbers, reduced costs, reuse of materials. [Example letters from Library Carpentry for directors](https://github.com/LibraryCarpentry/governance/tree/master/proposals). Aleks to send [links from Southampton](https://github.com/Southampton-RSG/
). If you are organising it all, better to be a helper than an instructor. If you have some money for instructors, that can help a lot!

#### 6. General discussion

##### 6.1. Return to in-person teaching/workshops
##### 6.2. Feelings about attenging in-person events in general
##### 6.3. Feelings about/experiences of hybrid events

Leave all these for next time.

#### 7. Chair for the next meeting - [add your name](https://hackmd.io/@local-uk/rkPK1Si7F)

#### 8. Wrap-up/AOB

### Actions

- Mario and Lucia: OWL camera experience for hybrid teaching (ongoing)
- Sarah: [font trying to illustrate how it feels to be dyslexic](https://www.wired.co.uk/article/font-shows-what-dyslexia-is-like) and [font designed to combat dyslexia](https://opendyslexic.org/)