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Nushell core team meeting 2023-12-20

Attendees

  • Antoine
  • Darren
  • Ed
  • Stefan
  • Michael
  • AucaCoyan
  • Sophia

Agenda

Discussed Topics

Stabilization steps

Sophia: picking a version that announces stabilization for core sets
Kubouch: listing of categories how stable certain things are

Spreadsheet time?
Stefan: spell out what is ready with each upcoming release
Ed?: what are parts that get stabilized with the headline of the command. Are all options included.

  • goal all options/flag are part of the stability guarantee.

Michael?: how would new-nu-parser be colliding with ongoing work to stabilization

  • Sophia: new-nu-parser should follow existing nushell

AucaCoyan: Will there be a 2.0?

What is stability?

Stabilization policy considerations

  • scripts
  • internal APIs
  • interactive use details
  • plugin API
    • plugins are currently underpowered as they can't run block/access data
    • plugin protocol
    • vs. crates we provide for plugin authors

Nightly?

Tangetn: Error make semantics

Red flags
catching and rethrowing effectively impossible right now
errors as values is not yet fleshed out

  • structure

-- flag fence

active topic, frequently requested
wait for kubouch

Stack clone

PR: https://github.com/nushell/nushell/pull/11288

slowdown when there is a large datastructure in scope

isolation/perf balance

cow structure of the stack as a potential solution
Sophia: How are things working with closure vs block sharing -> we have semantics of capture/mutation

Logo contest

Antoine prepared announcement

Feedback: simplify/open the priming themes

spread operator in call sites

Contentious issue how should positional or optional positional params be treated.

  • runtime spreading of positionals possible or not?
  • optionals?
  • refine examples on existing PR and discuss pitfalls there

Spreading of named arguments through records opens extra complexities

Not discussed topic

  • import patterns (wait for Kubouch)

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Note
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gh pr list --json url,number,author,title
| from json
| each {|i|
    $"- [($i.number)]\(($i.url)\) ($i.title) \(@($i.author.login)\)"
}
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| to text
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