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2020-12-10 Zinc.coop / Meet.coop intro meeting

Participants: Ana, Zee, Colombene, Ben (meetcoop)

Intros

  • Ana
  • Ben
  • Zee
    • involved in cooperative networks around Oakland, CA
    • working on Convene at Zinc.coop
  • Colombene
    • colombene@beneluxe.net
    • based in Los Angeles, CA
    • social justice oriented design and tech
    • UX, wireframes, PMing

Notes

  • What is Convene?
    • online collaboration spaces
    • focusing on groups of 6-8 ppl
  • Hypha started all meetings with Jitsi, later moved to BBB bc it's more reliable
  • Becoming an operational member
    • Zinc could use Meet.coop's infrastructure by being a user member, no need to become an operational member
      • ben: Dedicated Custom Server offering is GBP 250 a month, monitored and managed, use share secret, easy to build to its API for embedding
      • alternatively, do what femProcomuns is doing, as op member piloting a reseller model
    • ben: maybe Meetcoop can share the demo server secret with you to prototype, or Hypha can share
    • Zinc interested in doing more mutually-beneficial collaboration with other coops, able to offer some amount of code review, pairing sessions on e.g. Ansible
  • Meet.coop runs sociocracy-style
    • Circles: https://hackmd.io/dvwznF1HTc6XuiLXZ5Sgaw?view
    • Simply Secure is helping Meet.coop do some roadmapping as op member
    • Working on new website, but not much in terms of web development resources
    • Tech circle feels adequately staffed, but can always use more hands, because there is so much work that needs to be done
    • Want to go from being purely a SaaS infra operation to working on features that improve BBB
  • Let's start exploring first the tactical aspects of how Convene might use Meet.coop's infrastructure, perhaps as a user member. As we build our relationship, we can explore ways in which Zinc can move towards operational membership.
  • Explore femPro model pricing and once at 5 customers at Convene look at dedi offering
  • iFrame API in jitsi, what's the BBB version
    • give secret? ping us in chat?
  • Colombene is interested in helping figure out how people join or collaborate together
    • Organisational Operations, Ben and Calix mostly doing this, but can use help
    • the kind of work ppl are used to doing, plug into projects
    • Zinc, developer heavy, but how to organize
    • what is the coop equivalent of an "employee success" team?
  • Ana and Colombene were at the Diglife event, points that resonate:
    • the issues of open source, lack of user design, etc.
    • sharing of how our internal processes actually work is helpful
    • Oli's point about tokens that take properly accounts for early stage risk in investments
  • Ben shared some of our internal processes, e.g. OC, how we do wage allocation

Next steps

  • ben: bring this to Org Circle
  • ben: see if we can offer a server secret for Convene to prototype
  • ben: see if Convene can use a reseller model like femPro and what that may look like
  • zinc: continue discussion over email and forum, also Element.io
    • meetcoop: #freenode_#meetcoop:matrix.org
    • hypha: #hyphacoop-open:tomesh.net
  • zinc: join Xmas party
  • zinc: around Jan we can revisit op membership if it makes sense
    • Org WG and Tech WG roles potentially
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