SRE Conference
      • Sharing URL Link copied
      • /edit
      • View mode
        • Edit mode
        • View mode
        • Book mode
        • Slide mode
        Edit mode View mode Book mode Slide mode
      • Customize slides
      • Note Permission
      • Read
        • Owners
        • Signed-in users
        • Everyone
        Owners Signed-in users Everyone
      • Write
        • Owners
        • Signed-in users
        • Everyone
        Owners Signed-in users Everyone
      • Engagement control Commenting, Suggest edit, Emoji Reply
    • Invite by email
      Invitee

      This note has no invitees

    • Publish Note

      Share your work with the world Congratulations! 🎉 Your note is out in the world Publish Note

      Your note will be visible on your profile and discoverable by anyone.
      Your note is now live.
      This note is visible on your profile and discoverable online.
      Everyone on the web can find and read all notes of this public team.
      See published notes
      Unpublish note
      Please check the box to agree to the Community Guidelines.
      View profile
    • Commenting
      Permission
      Disabled Forbidden Owners Signed-in users Everyone
    • Enable
    • Permission
      • Forbidden
      • Owners
      • Signed-in users
      • Everyone
    • Suggest edit
      Permission
      Disabled Forbidden Owners Signed-in users Everyone
    • Enable
    • Permission
      • Forbidden
      • Owners
      • Signed-in users
    • Emoji Reply
    • Enable
    • Versions and GitHub Sync
    • Note settings
    • Note Insights New
    • Engagement control
    • Make a copy
    • Transfer ownership
    • Delete this note
    • Insert from template
    • Import from
      • Dropbox
      • Google Drive
      • Gist
      • Clipboard
    • Export to
      • Dropbox
      • Google Drive
      • Gist
    • Download
      • Markdown
      • HTML
      • Raw HTML
Menu Note settings Note Insights Versions and GitHub Sync Sharing URL Help
Menu
Options
Engagement control Make a copy Transfer ownership Delete this note
Import from
Dropbox Google Drive Gist Clipboard
Export to
Dropbox Google Drive Gist
Download
Markdown HTML Raw HTML
Back
Sharing URL Link copied
/edit
View mode
  • Edit mode
  • View mode
  • Book mode
  • Slide mode
Edit mode View mode Book mode Slide mode
Customize slides
Note Permission
Read
Owners
  • Owners
  • Signed-in users
  • Everyone
Owners Signed-in users Everyone
Write
Owners
  • Owners
  • Signed-in users
  • Everyone
Owners Signed-in users Everyone
Engagement control Commenting, Suggest edit, Emoji Reply
  • Invite by email
    Invitee

    This note has no invitees

  • Publish Note

    Share your work with the world Congratulations! 🎉 Your note is out in the world Publish Note

    Your note will be visible on your profile and discoverable by anyone.
    Your note is now live.
    This note is visible on your profile and discoverable online.
    Everyone on the web can find and read all notes of this public team.
    See published notes
    Unpublish note
    Please check the box to agree to the Community Guidelines.
    View profile
    Engagement control
    Commenting
    Permission
    Disabled Forbidden Owners Signed-in users Everyone
    Enable
    Permission
    • Forbidden
    • Owners
    • Signed-in users
    • Everyone
    Suggest edit
    Permission
    Disabled Forbidden Owners Signed-in users Everyone
    Enable
    Permission
    • Forbidden
    • Owners
    • Signed-in users
    Emoji Reply
    Enable
    Import from Dropbox Google Drive Gist Clipboard
       Owned this note    Owned this note      
    Published Linked with GitHub
    • Any changes
      Be notified of any changes
    • Mention me
      Be notified of mention me
    • Unsubscribe
    # 在設備跟雲的融合之路上孵化 SRE 的旅程 - 吳俊德 (Julian) ###### tags: `2023` {%hackmd @sre-conf/H1pCafrG3 %} ## 服務的複雜度:低 進版頻率:低 預估資源:容易 -> 瀑布式開發 市場期待的更新速度:快 系統穩定度收斂速度:慢 資源預估:難 ->敏捷式開發 > 開發方式改變:約莫以2010為分水嶺 |瀑布式開發|敏捷式開發| |:---:|:---:| 複雜度低 | 更新速度快 進版頻率更低 | 系統穩定收斂速度慢 預估資源容易 | 難以預估資源 ## 硬體跟雲端的天人交戰 #### 硬體 - 韌體很難天天改版 - 單一硬體沒有 scalability issue - 防火牆讓你的設備不易被發現 - 不太有個資議題 #### 雲端 - 雲端整天進版好像是天經地義 (會被要求要系統更新速度) - 雲內算力隨取就有(?) 會標失敗 :( - 駭客知道廠商有哪些雲服務 - 收資料出報表難逃個資議題 ## ZNET SRE - 7 人 - RD 或 IT 背景 - 網通相關知識 - 熟悉 Software Engineering - Sustain engineer lead 經驗 > 消防隊員 - 產品 PM 經驗 ## 先講結論:文化很重要 - 敏捷(開發) - Agile Team 包含 PM、RD(FW & Cloud)、QA 跟 SRE - 合作跟溝通 - 降低整體(Ent-to-End)的複雜度,盡量做 Parameterization - 架構出合理的守備範圍(e.g. 雲/設備、測試/研發、資安 etc) - Business Impact Assessment (e.g. Downtime) - 自動化 - 程式的部署:parameters的部署(implement a generator) - 異常的事件通知U - 監控 - SLO metrics, **Outage** - Business Insight ## 全球化下 SRE 的挑戰 - 24 x 7 - 停機維護是奢侈要求(EX. 歐洲客戶週末施工) - 歐洲人週五下午下班前趕進度,美東與台灣時差 12 小時 - GDPR - Pseudonymization必備;SRE在檢查資料是否破損時不能有個資洩漏風險。 - 資安 - Fix 要即時 ## #1 開發:先有硬(韌)體還是先有雲 - 過去習慣先做好硬體,再來找雲作加值 - 硬體沒先準備好控制介面跟資料,能加值的有限 - 硬體的算力遠小於雲,沒有先談架構分工,很多功能無法實現 - 韌體工程師若不熟悉 internet 的特性或 CAP 定理,維運成本會變高 - 基於不同晶片商做出來的韌體有不同的邏輯導致 DB schema .....(求幫補 - Dev:開發初期一起討論時,SRE協助 - 預估所需資源 - 提出過去類似設計 - scale out / concurrnecy參數 - 例外處理的成本預估 - Prod:上線後SRE的日常生活 - Usage 成長率(CPU、Memory) - DP/API的Loading Latency - HTTP 5XX 的監控 ## #2 當資安通報進來 1. 確認通報問題會是哪個點(Server, Application, Infra)是否真的出問題 - 不同的 Protocol 不會住在同一個 Server ,因為難釐清誰害到誰 - AWS Infra 上 - Application的問題通常都是 Developer coding 的問題(i.e. XSS) 2. 有些狀況SRE可以快速解決 - 使用NGINX擋掉application framework沒有正常處理的http header 3. 若須 developer 協助,SRE 聯絡 developer 跟 manager 確認問題是否緊急 - 在緊急狀況下,當dveloper 進行hotfix ## #3 專案支援 > SRE是發生事情的時候會被考古的人 ## #4 Tools AWS Cloud Watch, Prometheus --- === 聊天室 === SRE = Systemctl Restart Engineer🤣 ``` Failed to restart Engineer.service: Unit Engineer.service not found. ``` -> 😂有才 ~~試問詮釋SRE的一百種解釋~~ SEE READ END SHOW RUNNING EVENT 可是薪水不一樣啊 好亮 ->好亮 請教大家一個問題,大家都用「部署」還是「部屬」? -> 部署吧?有部屬這個用法嗎 -> 部屬不是指人嗎? -> 部署+1 -> ![](https://i.imgur.com/1qQyn2R.png) -> 應該是部屬會去部署 -> 那布署跟佈署呢?XD > 有 SOP 看 SOP ,沒SOP 找 SRE

    Import from clipboard

    Paste your markdown or webpage here...

    Advanced permission required

    Your current role can only read. Ask the system administrator to acquire write and comment permission.

    This team is disabled

    Sorry, this team is disabled. You can't edit this note.

    This note is locked

    Sorry, only owner can edit this note.

    Reach the limit

    Sorry, you've reached the max length this note can be.
    Please reduce the content or divide it to more notes, thank you!

    Import from Gist

    Import from Snippet

    or

    Export to Snippet

    Are you sure?

    Do you really want to delete this note?
    All users will lose their connection.

    Create a note from template

    Create a note from template

    Oops...
    This template has been removed or transferred.
    Upgrade
    All
    • All
    • Team
    No template.

    Create a template

    Upgrade

    Delete template

    Do you really want to delete this template?
    Turn this template into a regular note and keep its content, versions, and comments.

    This page need refresh

    You have an incompatible client version.
    Refresh to update.
    New version available!
    See releases notes here
    Refresh to enjoy new features.
    Your user state has changed.
    Refresh to load new user state.

    Sign in

    Forgot password

    or

    By clicking below, you agree to our terms of service.

    Sign in via Facebook Sign in via Twitter Sign in via GitHub Sign in via Dropbox Sign in with Wallet
    Wallet ( )
    Connect another wallet

    New to HackMD? Sign up

    Help

    • English
    • 中文
    • Français
    • Deutsch
    • 日本語
    • Español
    • Català
    • Ελληνικά
    • Português
    • italiano
    • Türkçe
    • Русский
    • Nederlands
    • hrvatski jezik
    • język polski
    • Українська
    • हिन्दी
    • svenska
    • Esperanto
    • dansk

    Documents

    Help & Tutorial

    How to use Book mode

    Slide Example

    API Docs

    Edit in VSCode

    Install browser extension

    Contacts

    Feedback

    Discord

    Send us email

    Resources

    Releases

    Pricing

    Blog

    Policy

    Terms

    Privacy

    Cheatsheet

    Syntax Example Reference
    # Header Header 基本排版
    - Unordered List
    • Unordered List
    1. Ordered List
    1. Ordered List
    - [ ] Todo List
    • Todo List
    > Blockquote
    Blockquote
    **Bold font** Bold font
    *Italics font* Italics font
    ~~Strikethrough~~ Strikethrough
    19^th^ 19th
    H~2~O H2O
    ++Inserted text++ Inserted text
    ==Marked text== Marked text
    [link text](https:// "title") Link
    ![image alt](https:// "title") Image
    `Code` Code 在筆記中貼入程式碼
    ```javascript
    var i = 0;
    ```
    var i = 0;
    :smile: :smile: Emoji list
    {%youtube youtube_id %} Externals
    $L^aT_eX$ LaTeX
    :::info
    This is a alert area.
    :::

    This is a alert area.

    Versions and GitHub Sync
    Get Full History Access

    • Edit version name
    • Delete

    revision author avatar     named on  

    More Less

    Note content is identical to the latest version.
    Compare
      Choose a version
      No search result
      Version not found
    Sign in to link this note to GitHub
    Learn more
    This note is not linked with GitHub
     

    Feedback

    Submission failed, please try again

    Thanks for your support.

    On a scale of 0-10, how likely is it that you would recommend HackMD to your friends, family or business associates?

    Please give us some advice and help us improve HackMD.

     

    Thanks for your feedback

    Remove version name

    Do you want to remove this version name and description?

    Transfer ownership

    Transfer to
      Warning: is a public team. If you transfer note to this team, everyone on the web can find and read this note.

        Link with GitHub

        Please authorize HackMD on GitHub
        • Please sign in to GitHub and install the HackMD app on your GitHub repo.
        • HackMD links with GitHub through a GitHub App. You can choose which repo to install our App.
        Learn more  Sign in to GitHub

        Push the note to GitHub Push to GitHub Pull a file from GitHub

          Authorize again
         

        Choose which file to push to

        Select repo
        Refresh Authorize more repos
        Select branch
        Select file
        Select branch
        Choose version(s) to push
        • Save a new version and push
        • Choose from existing versions
        Include title and tags
        Available push count

        Pull from GitHub

         
        File from GitHub
        File from HackMD

        GitHub Link Settings

        File linked

        Linked by
        File path
        Last synced branch
        Available push count

        Danger Zone

        Unlink
        You will no longer receive notification when GitHub file changes after unlink.

        Syncing

        Push failed

        Push successfully