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# OKD Working Group Meeting Notes
Every other Tuesday at 12:00PM Eastern-US
**Zoom:** [link](https://umich.zoom.us/j/99842244394?pwd=YVdkQjJTdnpBMUkySGVzK1kyTGoyZz09)
**Github:** https://github.com/okd-project/working-group
**Google Group:** https://groups.google.com/g/okd-wg
**OpenShift Slack:** https://kubernetes.slack.com/archives/C6AD6JM17
**OKD DEV Slack** https://kubernetes.slack.com/archives/C06FF6342RG
**Matrix:** https://chat.fedoraproject.org/#/room/#okd:fedoraproject.org
**Builds:**
- https://amd64.origin.releases.ci.openshift.org/#4.17.0-0.okd-scos
- https://amd64.origin.releases.ci.openshift.org/#4.16.0-0.okd-scos
**Issues:** https://issues.redhat.com/browse/OKD
## July 16, 2024
### Attendees
* Jaime Magiera (Emergent Community Systems)
* Brian Innes (IBM)
* Zed Spencer-Milnes (Ziax)
* Sumedh Deepak Patkar (NC State)
* Owen Howard (Ziax)
* Bruce Link (BCIT)
* Andrew Kiselev (Red Hat)
### Agenda
* OKD Build CI/CD and Release updates (Dennis, Prashanth)
* Failed builds due to
* https://issues.redhat.com/browse/RHEL-46380
* Criteria for releases
* Is there secret sauce still in the CI/CD process?
* SCOS updates (Timothée, Christian Glombek)
* What's the status of Centos 9 Stream Secure Boot issue [RHEL-4391](https://issues.redhat.com/browse/RHEL-4391)? We need to add something to the FAQ.
* https://github.com/rhboot/shim-review/issues/399
* Operator Updates (Owen, Zed)
* https://github.com/okd-project/okderators-catalog-index
* Web site transition (today)
* What do we need to do as a group to support it?
## July 2, 2024
### Attendees
* Jaime Magiera (Emergent Community Systems)
* Bruce Link (BCIT)
* Tyrone Wilson (IONOS)
* Owen Howard (Ziax)
* Brian Innes (IBM)
### Agenda
* OKD Build CI/CD and Release updates (Dennis, Prashanth)
*
* SCOS updates (Timothée, Christian Glombek)
* Criteria for releases
* Wait for Dennis and Prashanth
* Is the secret sauce still there?
* Testing
* Installation
* Day 2
* Running Basic Tests
* Operators test
* Ask Christian/Dennis about tests
* https://docs.pytest.org/en/8.2.x/?
* https://docs.providers.openshift.org/platform-external/e2e-testing/
* Status of ocpt?
* Operators Landing Page
* Upgrading from FCOS 4.12 to FCOS 4.15
Starting version - 4.12.0-0.okd-2023-04-01-051724
4.13.0-0.okd-2023-05-22-052007 - Requires forced upgrade due to unverified release, also requires acknowledgement of removed API's https://access.redhat.com/articles/6958394
4.13.0-0.okd-2023-07-23-051208 - Requires forced upgrade due to unverified release
4.13.0-0.okd-2023-09-30-084937
4.13.0-0.okd-2023-10-28-065448
4.14.0-0.okd-2024-01-06-084517
4.15.0-0.okd-2024-02-10-035534 - Requires acknowledgement of removed API's https://access.redhat.com/articles/6958395
4.15.0-0.okd-2024-03-10-010116
## June 18, 2024
### Attendees
* Jaime Magiera (ICPSR - University of Michigan)
* Bruce Link (BCIT)
* Brian Innes (IBM)
* Owen Howard (Ziax)
* Tyrone Wilson (IONOS)
* Mike Turek (IBM)
### Agenda
* OKD Build CI/CD and Release updates (Dennis, Prashanth)
* https://amd64.origin.releases.ci.openshift.org/#4.17.0-0.okd-scos
* SCOS updates (Timothée, Christian Glombek)
* AOB
* upgrade paths :
* https://access.redhat.com/articles/6958394 for 4.13
* https://access.redhat.com/articles/6958395 for 4.14
## June 4, 2024
### Attendees
* Jaime Magiera (ICPSR - University of Michigan)
* Brian Innes (IBM)
* Zed Spencer-Milnes (Ziax)
* Dennis Gilmore (Red Hat)
* Bruce Link (BCIT)
* Tyrone Wilson (IONOS)
* Owen Howard (Ziax)
* Mike Turek (IBM)
### Agenda
* OKD Build CI/CD and Release updates (Dennis, Prashanth)
* FCOS releases : https://fedoraproject.org/coreos/download?stream=stable#arches
* SCOS updates (Timothée, Christian Glombek)
## May 21, 2024
### Attendees
* Jaime Magiera (ICPSR - University of Michigan)
* Bruce Link (BCIT)
* Prashanth Sundararaman (Red Hat)
* Brian Innes (IBM)
* Owen Howard (Ziax)
* Tyrone Wilson (IONOS)
* Zed Spencer-Milnes (Ziax)
* Andrew Kiselev (Red Hat)
* Mike Turek (IBM)
### Agenda
* OKD Build CI/CD and Release updates (Prashanth)
* All containers in the payload have been built on top of CentOS Stream now
* Working on building scos with centos based rpms - installation is broken now due to this.
* Once we have a successful install and e2e tests run, we will mirror images to quay.io/openshift/origin*
* https://amd64.origin.releases.ci.openshift.org/
* https://amd64.origin.releases.ci.openshift.org/#4.16.0-0.okd-scos
* SCOS updates (Timothée, Christian Glombek)
* Broken Secure Boot on SCOS is a known issue:
* https://issues.redhat.com/browse/RHEL-4391
* https://github.com/rhboot/shim-review/issues/400
* Is there a signing key for the initial boot image. What is the initial image (at the moment it is an FCOS image)?
* Cloud-SIG meetings are on the _**second**_ Thursday of each month
* Next meeting is June 13th
* https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/centos-cloud-sig
* Press Release Review
* https://hackmd.io/3GvNPW0sR2W1mRqxuMnqew
* Moving forward
* https://github.com/okd-project/okd/discussions/1922
## May 7, 2024
### Attendees
* Jaime Magiera (ICPSR - University of Michigan)
* Bruce Link (BCIT)
* Andrea Fasano (Red Hat)
* Dennis Gilmore (Red Hat)
* Brian Innes (IBM)
* Zed Spencer-Milnes (Ziax)
* Owen Howard (Ziax)
* Andrew Kiselev (Red Hat)
### Agenda
* OKD Build CI/CD and Release updates (Dennis Gilmore)
* ~150 containers built
* Opportunity for some containers not part of payload to be moved into the community
* 30 containers from the payload not successfully building
* Goal is to complete payload builds by end of next week
* Examples
* https://github.com/openshift/release/pull/51601
* FCOS updates (Timothée Ravier and/or Dusty Mabe)
* Record intention to come back to FCOS
* SCOS updates (Timothée, Christian Glombek)
* We need to find the equivalent of the Fedora CoreOS Community Meetings for SCOS (Cloud SIG?) to track potential signals
* Press Release Review
* https://hackmd.io/3GvNPW0sR2W1mRqxuMnqew
* Add that we're not abandoning FCOS
*
* Launch
* Website
* Supportive get started docs/projects with scripts
* Chairs
* Zed has expressed interest
* Anyone else?
* Removing old chairs
* To Do:
* Gather RH statement of support (Dennis)
* Flesh language of the above (Community)
* Continue website (Zed + volunteers)
* Investigate virtualization options (Jaime + ?)
* Revisit meeting times (from last community meeting)
## April 23, 2024
### Attendees
* Jaime Magiera (ICPSR - University of Michigan)
* Brian Innes (IBM)
* Dennis Gilmore (Red Hat)
* Bruce Link (BCIT)
* Zed Spencer-Milnes (Ziax)
* Andrew Kiselev (Red Hat)
* Luigi Mario Zuccarelli (Red Hat)
* Owen Howard (Ziax)
### Agenda
* OKD Release and CI/CD updates (Christian, Sherine, Vadim, Luigi, Alex, Jeremy, etc)
* no release as we are still waiting for OKD-SCOS component builds (WIP)
* FCOS updates (Timothée Ravier and/or Dusty Mabe)
* no one available
* SCOS updates (Timothée, Christian Glombek)
* no one available
* Build update (Dennis Gilmore)
* 8 containers being build, plan to try rest within week
* decision to be made on starting version (4.15 or 4.16)
* Press Release Bullet Points
* Why releases have stopped
* Focusing on SCOS release (initially x86_64 only)
* Migration paths
* Improve experience for independent users (e.g. bare metal)
* There will be a re-launch
* Community Engagement Opportunities
* Red Hat statement of support
* Launch
* Website
* Supportive get started docs/projects with scripts
*
* To Do:
* Gather RH statement of support (Dennis)
* Flesh language of the above (Community)
* Continue website (Zed + volunteers)
* Investigate virtualization options (Jaime + ?)
* Bugs
* https://kubernetes.slack.com/archives/C06FF6342RG/p1713270816392099
* Questions:
* Why are kernel level mitigations disabled (https://github.com/openshift/okd-machine-os/blob/master/manifests/99-okd-master-disable-mitigations.yaml)
## April 9, 2024
### Attendees:
* Jaime Magiera (ICPSR - University of Michigan)
* Brian Innes (IBM)
* Bruce Link (BCIT)
### Agenda
* OKD Release and CI/CD updates (Christian, Sherine, Vadim, Luigi, Alex, Jeremy, etc)
* No one availble to deliver update
* FCOS updates (Timothée Ravier and/or Dusty Mabe)
* No one availble to deliver update
* SCOS updates (Timothée, Christian Glombek)
* No one availble to deliver update
* Open discussion on state of OKD / community
## March 26, 2024
### Attendees:
* Jaime Magiera (ICPSR - University of Michigan)
* Bruce Link (BCIT)
* Luigi Mario Zuccarelli (Red Hat)
* Zed Spencer-Milnes (Ziax)
* Dennis Gilmore (Red Hat)
### Agenda
* OKD Release and CI/CD updates (Christian, Sherine, Vadim, Luigi, Alex, Jeremy, etc)
* WIP based on doozer PR created by JP [here](https://github.com/openshift-eng/art-tools/pull/491)
* FCOS updates (Timothée Ravier and/or Dusty Mabe)
*
* SCOS updates (Timothée, Christian Glombek)
*
* Community Development Updates (Brian, Jaime)
* OKD.io website
* Note: Meeting URL will be changed starting next meeting:
* https://umich.zoom.us/j/99842244394?pwd=YVdkQjJTdnpBMUkySGVzK1kyTGoyZz09
## March 12, 2024
### Attendees:
* Jaime Magiera (ICPSR - University of Michigan)
* Andrea Fasano (Red Hat)
* Bruce Link (BCIT)
* Zed Spencer-Milnes (Ziax)
* Owen Howard (Ziax)
* Brian Innes (IBM)
* Jack Henschel (CERN)
* Alex Franklin (Oak Ridge National Laboratory)
### Agenda
* OKD Release and CI/CD updates (Christian, Sherine, Vadim, Luigi, Alex, Jeremy, etc)
* No one available
* FCOS updates (Timothée Ravier and/or Dusty Mabe)
* No one available
* SCOS updates (Timothée, Christian Glombek)
* No one available
* Community Development Updates (Brian, Jaime)
* State of OKD build and RH licensed material
* https://hackmd.io/@lorbus/Bk37adDTa?utm_source=preview-mode&utm_medium=rec
* Operators
* Test env not available
* Pod within Pod
* https://github.com/containers/podman/issues/20453
* https://github.com/containers/crun/issues/187
* https://frasertweedale.github.io/blog-redhat/posts/2022-02-02-openshift-user-ns-without-anyuid.html
* https://github.com/docker/cli/issues/3585
* https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/rootless-podman-jenkins-openshift
* https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/podman-inside-container
* https://github.com/containers/podman/issues/6667
* https://access.redhat.com/solutions/7007010
* https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/podman-inside-container
* https://documentation.suse.com/smart/container/html/rootless-podman/index.html
* https://access.redhat.com/solutions/6993746
* https://upstreamwithoutapaddle.com/blog%20post/2023/08/10/Podman-In-Dev-Spaces-With-Fuse-Overlay.html
* https://che.eclipseprojects.io/2022/10/10/@mloriedo-building-container-images.html
https://github.com/containers/podman/discussions/17988
* Timezone change
* Security Reporting (Zed)
## February 27, 2024
### Attendees:
* Jaime Magiera (ICPSR - University of Michigan)
* Andrea Fasano (Red Hat)
* Zed Spencer-Milnes (Ziax)
* Owen Howard (Ziax)
* Dennis Gilmore (Red Hat)
* Brian Innes (IBM)
* Amy Marrich (Red Hat)
* Timothée Ravier (Red Hat)
* Alex Franklin (Oak Ridge National Laboratory)
* Bruce Link (BCIT)
### Agenda
* OKD Release and CI/CD updates (Christian, Sherine, Vadim, Luigi, Alex, Jeremy, etc)
* https://github.com/openshift/enhancements/pull/1575#pullrequestreview-1903805876
* FCOS updates (Timothée Ravier and/or Dusty Mabe)
* SCOS updates (Timothée, Christian Glombek)
* Community Development Updates (Brian, Jaime)
* Security Reporting (Zed)
* Agent Based Installer (ABI)
## February 13, 2024
### Attendees:
* Jaime Magiera (ICPSR - University of Michigan)
* Zed Spencer-Milnes (Ziax)
* Robin Brämer (Ziax)
* Andrea Fasano (Red Hat)
* Tyrone Wilson (IONOS)
* Bruce Link (BCIT)
* Dennis Gilmore (Red Hat)
* Owen Howard (Ziax)
* Timothée Ravier (Red Hat)
* Brian Innes (IBM)
### Agenda
* OKD Release and CI/CD updates (Christian, Sherine, Vadim, Luigi, Alex, Jeremy, etc)
* Context: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3A1oe3hf0Y
* FCOS updates (Timothée Ravier and/or Dusty Mabe)
* SCOS updates (Timothée, Christian Glombek)
* Community Development Updates (Brian, Jaime)
* Agent Based Installer (ABI)
* Bugs
* https://issues.redhat.com/browse/OCPBUGS-23516
* https://github.com/okd-project/okd/issues/185
## January 30, 2024
### Attendees:
* Jaime Magiera (ICPSR - University of Michigan)
* Luigi Mario Zuccarelli (Red Hat)
* Bruce Link (BCIT)
* Zed Spencer-Milnes (Ziax)
* Brian Innes (IBM)
* Dennis Gilmore (Red Hat)
* Andrea Fasano (Red Hat)
### Agenda
* OKD Release and CI/CD updates (Christian, Sherine, Vadim, Luigi, Alex, Jeremy, etc)
* EOS Release on Thursday
* FCOS updates (Timothée Ravier and/or Dusty Mabe)
* SCOS updates (Timothée, Christian Glombek)
* Community Development Updates (Brian, Jaime)
* Agent Based Installer (ABI) [link to miniagent scripts](https://github.com/andfasano/miniagent)
* Moved to https://github.com/okd-project/miniagent (polished for OKD)
* Bugs
* https://issues.redhat.com/browse/OCPBUGS-23516
* https://github.com/okd-project/okd/issues/1852
## January 16, 2024
### Attendees:
* Jaime Magiera (ICPSR - University of Michigan)
* Bruce Link (BCIT)
* Luigi Mario Zuccarelli (Red Hat)
* Brian Innes (IBM)
* Tyrone Wilson (IONOS)
* Zed Spencer-Milnes (Ziax)
### Agenda
* OKD Release and CI/CD updates (Christian, Sherine, Vadim, Luigi, Alex, Jeremy, etc)
* Released OKD-SCOS 4.15 (.Next)
* [4.15.0-0.okd-scos-2024-01-11-032357](https://github.com/okd-project/okd-scos/releases/tag/4.15.0-0.okd-scos-2024-01-11-032357)
* Released OKD-SCOS 4.14 (stable)
* [4.14.0-0.okd-scos-2024-01-10-151818](https://github.com/okd-project/okd-scos/releases/tag/4.14.0-0.okd-scos-2024-01-10-151818)
* FCOS updates (Timothée Ravier and/or Dusty Mabe)
* SCOS updates (Timothée, Christian Glombek)
* Community Development Updates (Brian, Jaime)
* Agent Based Installer (ABI) [link to miniagent scripts](https://github.com/andfasano/miniagent)
* Bugs
* https://issues.redhat.com/browse/OCPBUGS-23516
* https://github.com/okd-project/okd/issues/1852