Meta Magicians
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Adeola:
* Berlin, Marketing
* education front -- trying to move forward -- realization
* trying to solve onboarding, resources against it, funding against
* positions

Maggie:
* how do things move forward?
* cadence of events
* remote friendly, no idea how things move
* implementation isn't sexy -- McKinsey vs IBM

Scott:
* Gitcoin
* funding?

Phil:
* Berlin, Parity
* project management
* how can Magicians take the burden off CoreDevs
* how to talk to CoreDevs who don't want to be so involved -- do the dirty work, so they can just do the implementation

Luke:
* Parity
* look at EthResearch -- action: make a mastering ethereum structure on Github

Boris:
* 2 of 3 o
* events --

Michael:
* MyCrypto
* education
* bring more organizations in

Harry:
* MyCrypto
* Educating users on events

Kevin:
* MyCrypto
* Governance but also getting things done

Taylor:
* MyCrypto
* universal problem with remote environment -- people on the inside doing things, people on the outside looking in, people on the outside
* EF sees themselves as something
* just communication -- being very explicit, way to get more info, how to get involved
* empowering people to take steps
* finding people to lead the charge -- ownership and altruistic

Elias:
* spending 5 years doing uncool shit -- teaching people

Nathalia:
* GenesisDAO
* focus on the combo of altruistic, empowered and welcome
* being strategic
* many ants, little convergence

Peter:
* does this organization have teeth?
* started as technical governance
* how do we sustain funding without sponsors
* money in politics is problematic
* stepping up to technical review process

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## EthMagicians Getting Stuff Done / What we Do

Infrastructure

Multisig:

Aidan
Elias
Greg

Github Issue

Github Issues is inaccessible to random community members

Is it a bad thing?

Anonymity is important
* Forum mods and rules of engagement dev -- roberts rules of order -- how to have civil discourse
* Badges -- create EthMagicians
* Intro forum
Aidan, Peter, Luke

Elias:
each community has its own rules
lists of stewards in different areas "I will teach you how this works"

Chaals:
Anonymous participation is hairy

Aidan:
Badges!

Kevin:
not time to be exclusive
you are forcing a lot of people out
onboard -- as long as people are checking it

Maggie:
working with people get stuff done by some date -- great
timelines deadlines accountability
what we use to get things done

Distinction?
Pseudonmyous -- yes, not anonymous
Lead by example
mobs on Reddit
Can solve them -- find good ways without gatekeepers

Adeo:
getting shit done

Aidan:
we got pepe'd -- need to start hardening

What are magicians getting

## Governance

intro

Greg:
EIP who needs -- Audience Review

Phil:
EIP that came out of signaling out of Denver -- clear action item

Peter:
EthMagicians -- house discussions
Not secret meetings and cabals accusing

2. Two or three teams came out of Berlin and Prague -- spinning off
Signaling apps, self organizing
Tentagraph -- link from Peter
Aragon grant, POC

3. More formalized -- what is meant to be? Technical review of EIPs -- needs to be its own thing -- EIP editors more formal group

Maggie:
What makes people feel rewarded? Or formal?

Adi:
Have discussions of great action items -- wait and hope
Cycle of waiting
Giving people authority or roles

Aidan:
Don't want to formalize roles

Elias:
follow up make sure stuff gets done

Remco:
emphasize need for a technical forum
that is only accessible to people who are accesible
private forums
Boris -- email, EVM discussions, etc
IETF uses mailing lists

Mike:
boards with specific technical people
core problems with EthMagicians
What it is has bloated -- a lot of the problem with delivering
no incentive

Taylor:
priorities
don't commit -- can't make myself do this, over everything that happens at my company
hard, but we have to realize that this is a priority for certain

TJ Rush:
understand
read only

Peter:
e.g fund recovery, without sock puppet levels of feedback that this should die
eg brigading and banned from a variety of channels
troll hunting

Remco:
Cambridge -- lunch by Stephen Hawking
Entry exam -- open to anyone

Maggie:
incentives -- working at Consensys

Chaals:
don't make exclusive venues
go troll hunting
exit barrier

Aidan:
ETH2 -- no one asked us to work on beacon chain
if this is the future of Ethereum -- a self organizing

Taylor:
random people doing shit for me
specific instructions
put a bounty up -- do 1, 2, 3, 4
translations

Adeo:
then why do we feel stuff isn't happening?

Taylor:
great if there are clear instructions -- eg. do a google sheet

Nathalia:
curation

Adeo:
education on how / what to do

Kevin:
quantity of work vs how much stuff needs to get done
everyone wants to have their own project
no incentive to it -- incentivizing people, there are very few to get stuff done
Onboard new people? Education!

Scott:
Advocate for bounties
Surface and show issues -- know that it exists

Taylor:
If a person puts money on the issue, explicit directions

Phil:
afraid of incentive structures
glory in there hills
success stories -- if an EIP gets implemented -- being involved -- ear of CoreDevs
Do the work

Elias:
known about EthMagicians
MP messaged me, can you deal with education
Link -- OK, is this OK?
Gave me the confidence
Stewards, small groups

Aidan:
we must not want things

Boris:
<example>event organizing</example>

TJ Rush:
Provide an interface for making good bounties?

Scott:
stewardship
question -- how do we pick
Education - Elias volunt

Mike:
curating active rings

Adeo:
thinking beyond the audience here
beyond active people

Elias:
don't have time, recruit more
curation

Charles:
millions of people have done open source
basically free and inefficient
ton of work
Not too much process

Boris: Call focused in 2 weeks

Fred:
what are we trying to get done?
On CoreDevs
A year ago, CoreDevs call better, less political discussions -- is this implementable or not
CoreDevs meetup at Prague
January --

Greg:
People working on EIPs can pull together help
Very hard if you're working on something, find other people who have skill and knowledge
When you got to CoreDevs

Fred / Boris:
Action: why should CoreDevs
Expertise gathering
Long form discussion
why / how

Elias:
doesn't need to be define
platformed for different discussions
Rings

Greg:
obvious about recruiting CoreDevs
People
CoreDevs

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Adi: breakthrough Education

Adi: Frustration on Ethereum roadmap -- making decisions?

Nathalie: Genesis DAO - 170 people