Liz Ing-Simmons
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    # Discussion notes about possible RSE book topics # Green computing, ethics, ~~law, and AI~~ Suggestion: exclude "law" from "ethical computing" because "law" is too large of a topic itself. AI is also just considered in ethical terms and if the result justify the resource consumption. - while we can follow/implement a particular research idea, the question is, should we be doing it? - energy / power consumption - how much water is used to cool down an HPC center - ethical concerns - how much does research progress with this idea - should we require more justification for resource consumption and implementation choices - who is going to decide about access to compute resources? - it seems to work at KCL and HUB that every member gets a basic amount of resources for free (e.g. storage, compute, CPU/GPU cores, VMs/Containers, ...) ## culture problem - it seems to be a common problem that after some bureaucracy (ticking checkboxes), researchers tend to abuse resources once they have access to it - ? do we have references for that? - low hanging fruit for efficiency: people don't use HPC resources effectively, or don't do checkpointing, small tests, etc - set lower limits by default? - compare ethics applications: a low threshold, above which you need to justify your research properly - who sets the limits? how do you choose the thresholds? - talking to the HPC group of a CS department, it became clear that all professors book resources but do not free them up if not needed, so the machines sometimes run idle (anecdotal evidence) ## transparency of consumption - would dashboards help how much energy you've consumed by training a LLM - > While a mundane search query finds existing data from the Internet, she says, applications like AI Overviews must create entirely new information; Luccioni’s team has estimated it costs about 30 times as much energy to generate text versus simply extracting it from a source. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-do-googles-ai-answers-cost-the-environment/ - > When comparing the average electricity demand of a typical Google search (0.3 Wh of electricity) to OpenAI’s ChatGPT (2.9 Wh per request), in “International Energy Agency Report 2024” https://iea.blob.core.windows.net/assets/6b2fd954-2017-408e-bf08-952fdd62118a/Electricity2024-Analysisandforecastto2026.pdf - *A bottle of water per email: the hidden environmental costs of using AI chatbots* [link to WaPo article](https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/09/18/energy-ai-use-electricity-water-data-centers/) - would researchers change their behavior if they saw how many resources they utilized? ## funder's interest - funders are starting to care about energy consumption - would it helpful to have certificates of only using *green/sustainable* energy - Sustainable research computing certfication: https://www.software.ac.uk/GreenDiSC - KCL data center is using certified renewable energy - York Uni has [moved their data centre](https://energyadvicehub.org/york-university-reduce-carbon-footprint-supercomputer/) to a location with greener energy and less need for cooling ## societal impact - data centres can impact the local population/environment: water use, electrical network, etc - UK has a new top-down policy with regional energy pricing -- this is an attempt to move industry to the north of UK and that's how data centers may be moved up north - one HUB data center has already exhausted its powerline and would need to get new powerlines into the building in order to increase its HPC offers and other services - public cloud infrastructure allows you to choose where to run certain jobs - so it would be possible to choose locations based on solar power - An interesting podcast on the topic of data centre locations: https://techwontsave.us/episode/243_data_vampires_opposing_data_centers_episode_2 ## law - what is the current interpretation of copyright law in terms of genAI - if you train a model do you have any rights on its output? - German law allocates no rights on prompted output - if LLM output can be reused but has no academic value assigned in terms of licenses or rights, is it ethical to do that stuff? - [James] please can you ask how Open Source works in Germany with distinction between the two different kinds of authorship rights? # Career development for RSE roles distinction between inhouse and funding programms How it works in UK: - Academic vs researcher vs professional services contract - Job titles communicate expectations, but aren't particularly significant - easy to change - Main problem seems to be that we're often in "professional service" roles without progression mechanisms How it works in Germany: - Position on salary scale determines "researcher" vs "technician" - Contract doesn't say much about what you actually do - You have a short document which describes your work area - Job titles carry a lot of weight - need justification to change - Often have to define a specific role to justify it - Main problem is lack of standardisation - no ability to benchmark - "Beamte" - equivalent to "tenure" in the US - Gives legal protection / responsibility to professors - No willingness by universities to have this discussion about roles as it would mean increasing salaries Resources - UKRI roles in funding applications: https://www.ukri.org/publications/roles-in-funding-applications/roles-in-funding-applications-eligibility-responsibilities-and-costings-guidance/ - UK RSE role profiles: https://github.com/RSE-leaders/evidence-bank - UK standard academic role profiles - nationally agreed by the unions representing university staff - https://www.ucu.org.uk/media/3540/UCU-model-academic-related-job-family-role-profiles-Oct-09/pdf/ucu_arprofiles_oct09.pdf - Comes from negotiation between UCEA (represents university senior management) and UCU (represents primarily academic and research staff) * UK has role understanding * HUB has not, long processes of discussion/implemention of role * usually inofficial denomination What would we like a pathway to achieve? - Support people to come from different backgrounds - academic and industry - Transitions between roles - Promotion within a family of roles What software cultures exist? - We have a reasonably uniform culture within UK academia - you can expect a university to work in certain ways - Culture in industry very variable Roles within projects: - In industry we'd probably want to talk to "product owners" - they're responsible for collaboration - KDL uses Agile DSDM - Describes roles and responsibilities within project - King's Digital uses Scrum - RSE group in Manchester does too - Adaptations based on size and engagement of project - RSE as researcher vs RSE as service provider - Would this affect promotion pathways? Would need to be general enough to work for both # Developing/running training courses for researchers ## Stefan got ideas: - everyone should be proficient in git - using modern features of programming languages - from the beginning teaching algorithmic thinking - Continuous Integration (Continuous Deployment, less important - but very important for reusability) ## back to general overview: - King's does regular workshops, open for interested researchers - introductory courses mostly built upon Software Carpentries materials - also develops additional intermediate courses (e.g. Python profiling & optimization) - by the central RSE team - "born out of pain" - the need for additional custom materials became apparent - no mandatory training for HPC users - hard to keep balance between annoying people and things people need to know - already established groups/communities, born out of necessity - also some online+async training materials in existence introductionary materials - maybe change/improve them? - what are the actual goals of those materials? - taking the fear from people - basic concept - dealing with errors & error messages - teaching computational thinking Digital History at HU - intro courses: Python, Data Literacy - no pre-requisites, diverse backgrounds: no common level of background knowledge - a lot of pair programming - a lot of self-organization - it very much depends on students being able to work with/train other students - **idea**: telling people upfront about the expectation re pair programming & providing train-the-trainers materials Other departments at HU also offer training - but not clear what topics/how - IZ is working to improve communication General issues: - departments/institutes/etc. do not know what others are doing - people giving courses are not necessarly trained in teaching people Prerequisites? - tension between scaring people away, not having enough people joining because of that & people needing to know how to use tools - idea: making this tool/infrastructure-dependent; courses are without prerequisites, but the usage of HPC et al. has some - those would be half-a-day or 2 half-a-day workshops - courses using programming / data processing need some training built in - need flexibility to add additional training where required based on the participants - needs the lecturers to be willing and able to provide this training! - need to catalogue the tools and concepts that are required for the course - then you can do a survey in the first week & edit the course plan accordingly # AI and software

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