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    # Panel Discussion-年度產品負責人論壇 - 李境展(Tomas), 郭丞哲, 郭家良, 高玉璁, 李柏成, 張國瑋 {%hackmd @HWDC/BJOE4qInR %} >#### 》[議程介紹](https://hwdc.ithome.com.tw/2024/session-page/3208) >#### 》[填寫議程滿意度問卷|回饋建言給辛苦的講者](https://forms.gle/LZysVjtNkLqPRrJo6) ![IMG_8470](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/SkodwCZa0.jpg) 講者左至右 李境展 (鈦坦科技 Tomas), 張國瑋 (幣託集團), 郭家良 (PaGamO),郭丞哲 (USPACE) ,高玉璁 (Haohow) ==流程:願景、目標、場景、確認剛需== - 聊目標 - 張國瑋: - 如何降低成本:在價值排序中,去找到如何對客戶帶來效率、效益(Data driven) - 郭家良: - 解決衝突、交付資訊與價值最大化 - 學生自學 -> 滿足老師的教學功能 - 在產品價值與願景取得平衡 - 郭承哲: - 停車:偏向剛需產品 - 產品重要的就是「落地」,拉起 CMO 的期待值再把想要的偷渡到市場上 - 越快迭代,越需要 stakeholder 幫忙 - 人 -> 落地 -> 迭代(價值主張) - 團隊 ==團隊命名很重要,會隱性決定團隊的做的事情與開發流程,加上透明、真誠、互動引導團隊前行== - 張國瑋: - 產品的誕生不是只有靠 PO - 團隊名稱很重要 -> 向心力 - User Story Mapping -> 了解專案全貌 - Event storming -> 減少溝通成本,讓咖發團隊與 Stakeholder 一同討論 - 實例化需求:Story -> 讓 DoD 的明確度上升 - 高玉璁: - Buttomline 是什麼? 以自我實踐為願景,品質是不能退讓的點 - 團隊是活的,方法是死的 - 解決的事團隊的問題,不是產品的問題 - 在每個階段團隊都會遇到不同的問題,需要在這些時間節點去跟不同團隊進行溝通 - 要喜歡上解決團隊(包含內與外)的問題 - 郭承哲: - 透明、真誠、互動、與高頻溝通 - 如何知道球會往哪飛?(aka 通靈)-> 需要花時間去建立信任感 - 真誠的對上對下溝通,可以詢問未知跟已知的比例是多少 - 不斷溝通是團隊的根基 - 建議與自我期許 ==需要具備有什麼心態、人格特質、能力== - 郭家良 - 同理心(團隊、自己、stakeholder 都要同理) - 沒有假需求,需要知道的是需求方提需求背後代表的意義是什麼 -> 快速看到問題的本質的能力 - 團隊也是 PO 很重要的產品,要平衡團隊跟產品 - case sharing:DA 跑 Scrum,但業務單位會隨時有需求提出 - 解法:在跑 sprint 的同時,可以考慮對外發放一些定期定時的小型工作坊讓其他部門開放討論 (e.g. every Wed 15:30-16:30 dada analysis workshop) - 高玉璁: - PO 成熟度的 4 階段 1. 把明確的事情做出來 2. 把明確的事情,在有限的時間資源內做出來 3. 把不明確事情(未知)做出來 4. 把不明確的事情,在有限的時間資源內做出來 ==在帶 PM 時主要在 stage 1-2== - PO 的學習很難被明確數值化定義與驗證 - 焦慮:好像不知道要學習什麼?專注於當下可以解決的東西 ==不明白不確定的東西(chaos)不要碰,去問你的 stakeholder== - 如何培養一個優秀的 PO - 張國瑋 - 心態 => 在什麼都要做的狀況下,心態才是最重要的 - 郭家良 - 說故事能力 => 同時培養同理心、換位思考、傳遞價值的能力 - 郭丞哲 - 聆聽、複誦、提問 => 聆聽後不要先說發言,會阻礙你的資訊吸收,只要複誦剛剛聽到的,有問題、就提問 - 高玉璁 - 對於產品範疇的觀點 => 從團隊本身,擴大到組織營運模式的範疇 - 現場 QA - 團隊裡公平性的定義 => 讓 member 有選擇,貢獻、成長要被看見 - 高玉璁 - 團隊一定都會有不同能力的人 - 原則:確保在團隊裡能力更強、效率更高的夥伴是有發揮空間的 - 能者一定會多勞,要給他該有的報酬 - 最低可以接受到的團隊限制是什麼 - 會有份內專案交付 - 會有願意承擔更多責任的:要適時的把他們提升能見度 - 郭丞哲 - 「公司就是有些東西比較賣錢」:自己所在的組織會有對於公司有本質結構的不同 - 盡量讓夥伴的成長被看見(幫忙夥伴刷臉) - 告知現況,給他們選擇權 - PO 成就感來源在哪裡?如何驅動自己持續前進? - 張國瑋 - 產品可以順利上線 - 團隊一同合作的感覺 - 勝利屬於團隊(成功不在我),團隊自主性的實現 - 郭家良 - 來自用戶的回饋 - 團隊相信自己正在走的路是對社會 / 用戶有正向回饋 ==聊天區== =V= b <3

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