Carvel Community Meeting

--- title: Carvel Community Meeting tags: community --- # Carvel Community Meeting *This doc is meant to serve as the "one doc to rule them all" for Carvel community meetings and open discussions.* Community meetings are held **every Monday at 11:30AM Pacific Time** ([Convert to your time zone](http://www.thetimezoneconverter.com/?t=09:00&tz=PT%20%28Pacific%20Time%29)). Join the [Google Group](https://groups.google.com/g/carvel-dev) to get updates on the project and invites to community meetings. [Community meeting Zoom link](http://community.klt.rip) (Previous recordings: [Carvel YouTube Playlist](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7bmigfV0EqS1ZxRR1cRd8eqdwQij9Lsa)) _Please read and abide by our [Code of Conduct](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/blob/develop/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md)._ *If you have anything you’d like to put on the agenda, please do so below for the next meeting.* #### _For any discussion items or open questions we do not get to in the time allotted **in this meeting**, we invite you to join us every 2nd and 4th Thursday, 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET, for [Carvel Office Hours](https://hackmd.io/5Bh2IXwTShSrA0YdBY4AGg)._ --- # May 10, 2021 Agenda ### Attendees (Please add your name + organization below) * ### Announcements * `ytt` v0.33.0 released — introduces convenience function to [`url` module](https://carvel.dev/ytt/docs/latest/lang-ref-ytt/#url) for parsing typical URLs. ([Release Notes](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/releases/tag/v0.33.0)) ### Status Updates * ### This Week's Plans * ### Discussion Topics * _(replace with **your** discussion topic)_ ### Triage Help * _(replace this note with **your** triage help issue)_ --- # May 10, 2021 Agenda ### Attendees (Please add your name + organization below) * Nanci Lancaster, VMware * John Ryan, VMware * Aaron Hurley, VMware * Helen George, VMware * Dennis Leon, VMware * Garrett. Cheadle, VMware * Eli Wrenn, VMware * Daniel Helfand, VMware * Joao Pereira, VMware ### Announcements * [KubeCon EU 2021 Demo](https://youtu.be/XD4ZdRZPIjg) * [Staff Engineer role is still open](https://careers.vmware.com/main/jobs/R2018303) 🎉 * [imgpkg v0.7.0](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/releases/tag/v0.7.0) ### Status Updates * **Accepted!** [Proposal: Maintaining Carvel Documentation](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-community/tree/develop/proposals/carvel/001-maintain-documentation) * [[kapp-controller] Package Manager API](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp-controller/87): In Progress. * [Proposal: Add proposal for splitting package cr](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-community/pull/30) * [[ytt] schemas type-checking](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/283): In Progress. 🧬 * [[ytt] Accept Data Values as a plain YAML file](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/381): Upcoming. * **Accepted!** [Proposal: Accept Unannotated YAML as Data Values #21](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-community/tree/develop/proposals/ytt/002-raw-data-values) ### This Week's Plans * [ZenHub](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board?repos=173207060,175895515,219018453,183293280,182335015,242393147,313435697) * [Conduct Usability Test for Schemas #285](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/285) * Pointing Estimate: 1 * [Accept Data Values as a plain YAML file #381](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/381) * [Accept DVs in a single plain YAML file/document as the only source of Data Values #376](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/376) * Pointing Estimate: 2 * [Accept DVs in multiple plain YAML files/documents that merge into the only source of Data Values #377](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/377) * Pointing Estimate: 3 ### Discussion Topics * ~~Review recent proposed changes to [GitHub Issue Triage](https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ymSz2XQiSwVAnFE97uUPg13nH62u4mQofFdZWFMGck/edit?usp=sharing)~~ (deferred to [Office Hours](https://hackmd.io/5Bh2IXwTShSrA0YdBY4AGg#May-13-2021)) * _(replace with **your** discussion topic)_ ### Triage Help * _(replace this note with **your** triage help issue)_ --- # May 3, 2021 Agenda ### Announcements * Carvel @ [KubeCon + Cloud NativeCon Europe 2021](https://kccnceu2021.sched.com/?timezone=America%2FLos_Angeles) * May 4, 5:40am–6:10am Pacific Time / 8:40am–9:10am Eastern Time - [Kubernetes Package Management Using Unix Philosophy with Carvel](https://sched.co/ieTQ) * May 6, 5:00am–5:30am Pacific Time / 8:00am–8:30am Eastern Time - Live Office Hours * [Carvel Booth Demo](https://youtu.be/XD4ZdRZPIjg) - Carvel maintainer, Dmitriy Kalinin, demo's how to use the Carvel tool suite to install Wordpress MySQL, one of the examples under [the Kubernetes GitHub repo](https://github.com/kubernetes/examples/tree/master/mysql-wordpress-pd). * kapp-controller v0.19.0-alpha.6 upgrade issues - you'll need to delete kapp-controller fully before installing this version ### Status Updates * [[ytt] schemas v1](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/283): In Progress. 🧬 * [[ytt] schemas v2](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/323): Being defined. 🧬 * [Proposal: Accept Unannotated YAML as Data Values #21](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-community/pull/21) * [Proposal: Support exporting OpenAPI from `ytt` Schema](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/338) ### This Week's Plans * [ZenHub](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board?repos=173207060,175895515,219018453,183293280,182335015,242393147,313435697) ### Discussion Topics * [kapp-controller] [Splitting the Package CR proposal](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-community/blob/33b946748d21464b9101395cb43b6f2b8109bde6/proposals/kapp-controller/003-package-cr-split/README.md) * [ytt-playground] [Additional example groups, overlays and getting started, are not being seen by users](https://carvel.dev/ytt/#playground) * [imgpkg] * [Proposal: imgpkg-003 Rename images when copying bundles](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-community/pull/22) * [Bundle and Images in different Registries with Different authentications](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/issues/136) ### Triage Help * _(replace this note with **your** triage help issue)_ --- # April 26, 2021 Agenda ### Announcements * Carvel @ [KubeCon + Cloud NativeCon Europe 2021](https://kccnceu2021.sched.com/?timezone=America%2FLos_Angeles) * May 4, 5:40am–6:10am Pacific Time / 8:40am–9:10am Eastern Time - [Kubernetes Package Management Using Unix Philosophy with Carvel](https://sched.co/ieTQ) * May 6, 5:00am–5:30am Pacific Time / 8:00am–8:30am Eastern Time - Live Office Hours * [Carvel Booth Demo](https://youtu.be/XD4ZdRZPIjg) - Carvel maintainer, Dmitriy Kalinin, demo's how to use the Carvel tool suite to install Wordpress MySQL, one of the examples under [the Kubernetes GitHub repo](https://github.com/kubernetes/examples/tree/master/mysql-wordpress-pd). ### Status Updates * ytt v0.32.0 ([release notes](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/releases/tag/v0.32.0)) * [[ytt] schemas v1](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/283): In Progress. 🧬 * [[ytt] schemas v2](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/323): Being defined. 🧬 * [Proposal: Accept Unannotated YAML as Data Values #21](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-community/pull/21) * [Proposal: Support exporting OpenAPI from `ytt` Schema](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/338) * New alpha release of kapp-controller (v0.19.0-alpha.6) * Reporting App Errors as part of InstalledPackage and PackageRepository statuses * Support for helm v3 templating * helm v2 templating will be removed in future release but both versions are still available at this time * Installation docs can be found here: https://carvel.dev/kapp-controller/docs/latest/install-alpha/ * We're compiling a list of [ytt guides and examples](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/314). It's still some time away and we want to hear from you what guides and specific use cases you want to see. ### This Week's Plans * [ZenHub](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board?repos=173207060,175895515,219018453,183293280,182335015,242393147,313435697) ### Triage Help * _(replace this note with **your** triage help issue)_ ### Discussion Topics * Any final feedback proposal for [Carvel Documentation](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-community/pull/26). # April 19, 2021 Agenda ### Announcements * This week's [office hours agenda](https://hackmd.io/5Bh2IXwTShSrA0YdBY4AGg) modified for a WG session * [imgpkg v0.6.1](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/releases/tag/v0.6.1) ### Status Updates * [[ytt] schemas v1](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/283): In Progress. 🧬 * [[ytt] schemas v2](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/323): Being defined. 🧬 * [Proposal: Accept Unannotated YAML as Data Values #21](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-community/pull/21) * [Proposal: Support exporting OpenAPI from `ytt` Schema](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/338) * [imgpkg] [Release tooling](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/issues/123): In Progress. * [[kapp-controller] Package Manager API MVP](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp-controller/issues/87): In Progress. ⚗️ 🧪 ### This Week's Plans * [Backlog](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board) * [Release ytt 0.32.0 #362](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/362) ### Triage Help * _(replace this note with **your** triage help issue)_ ### Discussion Topics * (replace this note with **your** discussion topic) --- # April 12, 2021 Agenda ### Announcements * New blog post - [High level walkthrough of the kapp deploy command](https://carvel.dev/blog/kapp-boxes-and-lines-blog-post/) by Carvel maintainer, [Garrett Cheadle](https://github.com/gcheadle-vmware) * We're hiring a [Staff Engineer](https://careers.vmware.com/main/jobs/R2018303) 🎉 * kapp-controller v0.18.0 ([release notes](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp-controller/releases/tag/v0.18.0)) 🚀 ### Status Updates * [[ytt] schemas v1](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/283): In Progress. 🧬 * [[ytt] schemas v2](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/323): Being defined. 🧬 * [Proposal: Accept Unannotated YAML as Data Values #21](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-community/pull/21) * [Proposal: Support exporting OpenAPI from `ytt` Schema](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/338) * [imgpkg (all?)] Release tooling * [[kapp-controller] Package Manager API MVP](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp-controller/issues/87): In Progress. ⚗️ 🧪 * [[kapp-controller] Enhancements](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board?repos=220090417): In Progress. ### This Week's Plans * [Backlog](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board) * `ytt`: [Report Schema Error when Data Values Overlay Fails #344](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/344) * Pointing Estimate: 3 * `ytt`: [Type Check Command Line Data Values #333](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/333) * Pointing Estimate: 2 * `imgpkg`: [rename copy's --include-non-distributable to --include-non-distributable-layers #112](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/112_) * Pointing Estimate: 1 * `imgpkg`: [Provide copy progress feedback #96](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/96) * More work needed on UX before pointing ### Triage Help * _(replace this note with **your** triage help issue)_ ### Discussion Topics * `imgpkg`: [imgpkg-003 Rename images when copying bundles #22](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-community/pull/22) --- # April 5, 2021 Agenda ### Announcements * We're hiring a [Staff Engineer](https://careers.vmware.com/main/jobs/R2018303) 🎉 * imgpkg v0.6.0 ([release notes](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/releases/tag/v0.6.0)) 🚀 ### Status Updates * Project Roadmap 🗺 * [[imgpkg] Recursive Bundles](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/issues/68): Completed. Please provide feedback! 🔃 * [[ytt] schemas](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/283): In Progress, currently working on [type checking private libraries](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/296). 🧬 * [[kapp-controller] Package Manager API MVP](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp-controller/issues/87): In Progress. ⚗️ 🧪 * [[kapp-controller] Enhancements](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board?repos=220090417): In Progress. ### This Week's Plans * [Backlog](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board) 📋 * [Schema node can be annotated to allow any type #315](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/315) * Pointing Estimate: 3 * [Explore: Support exporting OpenAPI from 'ytt' Schema #338](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/338) * Pointing Estimate: 1 ### Triage Help * _(replace this note with **your** discussion topic)_ ### Discussion Topics * [kapp#208 — Add per change wait timeout](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp/issues/208) * Proposal [Rename images when copying bundles](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-community/pull/22) by April 9 --- # March 29, 2021 Agenda ### Announcements * We're hiring a [Staff Engineer](https://careers.vmware.com/main/jobs/R2018303) ### Status Updates * [[ytt] schemas](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/283): In Progress, currently working on [type checking private libraries](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/296) * [[imgpkg] Recursive Bundles](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/issues/68): In Progress * [[kapp-controller] Package Manager API MVP](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp-controller/issues/87): In Progress * [[kapp-controller] Enhancements](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board?repos=220090417): In Progress ### This Week's Plans * [Backlog](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board) * [Remove experimental recursive bundle flag #91](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/91) * Pointing Estimate: 1 * [Schema can be Overlay'ed #294](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/294) * Pointing Estimate: 3 ### Triage Help * _(replace this note with **your** discussion topic)_ ### Discussion Topics * [kapp#201 — app-group deploy - kapp config](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp/issues/201) * Cari to capture notes from discussion in this issue * Proposal [Rename images when copying bundles](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-community/pull/22) by April 9 --- # March 22, 2021 Agenda ### Announcements * vendir [v0.17.0](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-vendir/releases/tag/v0.17.0) * kapp-controller [v0.17.0](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp-controller/releases/tag/v0.17.0) / [v0.18.0-alpha.4](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp-controller/blob/dev-packaging/alpha-releases/v0.18.0-alpha.4.yml) * We're hiring a [Staff Engineer](https://careers.vmware.com/main/jobs/R2018303) ### Status Updates * [[ytt] schemas](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/283): In Progress, currently working on [type checking private libraries](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/296) * [[imgpkg] Recursive Bundles](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/issues/68): In Progress * [[kapp] Enhancements](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board?repos=175895515): In Progress * [[kapp-controller] Package Manager API MVP](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp-controller/issues/87): In Progress * [[kapp-controller] Enhancements](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board?repos=220090417): In Progress ### This Week's Plans * [Backlog](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board) * [Recursive pulling should be filterable #98](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/98): Need to pull from backlog and work on discovery work first ### Triage Help * _(replace this note with **your** discussion topic)_ ### Discussion Topics * [Backlog Pull Request](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-community/pull/24): Adding information on how the backlog works. Please review and add comments. * [ytt-002 Accept Unannotated YAML as Data Values #21](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-community/pull/21): --- # March 15, 2021 Agenda ### Announcements * kapp v0.36.0 ([release notes](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp/releases/tag/v0.36.0)) * `carvel` repo has been renamed to [`carvel-community`](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-community/) * Published [proposals process](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-community/tree/develop/proposals). See [active proposals](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-community/pulls). * We're hiring a [Staff Engineer](https://careers.vmware.com/main/jobs/R2018303) * Provide feedback on this community meeting (in [#carvel](https://kubernetes.slack.com/archives/CH8KCCKA5)) ### Status Updates * [[imgpkg] Performance Improvements](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/issues/65): Development completed. Expected in v0.6.0. * [[imgpkg] Recursive Bundles](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/issues/68): In Progress * [[ytt] schemas](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/283): In Progress * [[kapp] Enhancements](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board?repos=175895515): In Progress (limited bandwidth this week) * [[kapp-controller] Package Manager API MVP](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp-controller/issues/87): In Progress * [[kapp-controller] Enhancements](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board?repos=220090417): In Progress ### This Week's Plans * [Backlog](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board) * [[imgpkg] Recursive Bundles](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/issues/68) * [Pull updates all image lock files #92](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/92) - Pointing Estimate: 2 * [Document Recursive Bundle feature #88](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/88) - Pointing Estimate: 1 * [[kapp] Enhancements](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board?repos=175895515): In Progress (limited bandwidth this week) * [Clarifying sources and type for rebase rules #189](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp/189) - Pointing Estimate: 1 ### Triage Help - ~~**Cari to provide update:** [ytt#260: GitOps friendly command for ytt](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/260): _Support "Application Groups" for `ytt` ala `kapp`._~~ - ~~[*kapp#89: kapp template rules do not work against non-typed fileds such as `initContainers: null`*](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp/issues/89)\ _*Versioned sub-functionality should succeed in deploying when iterating over null arrays*_~~ * **Action Item:** Garrett to add in comments from discussion. - ~~[*kbld#97: Images present as args to a container command are not included nor substituted with kbld*](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kbld/issues/97) \ _Extend `kbld`'s image reference scanning capabilities to search _within_ a value._~~ * **Action Item:** Cari and Dennis to pair on this. ### Discussion Topics - _(replace this note with **your** discussion topic)_ --- # March 8, 2021 Agenda ### Announcements * [Carvel Office Hours](https://hackmd.io/5Bh2IXwTShSrA0YdBY4AGg) on Thursday, March 11, 2021, at 11:30am PST ### Status Updates * [[ytt] schemas](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/283): In Progress * [[imgpkg] Recursive Bundles](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/issues/68): In Progress * [[imgpkg] Performance Improvements](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/issues/65): In Progress * [[kapp] Enhancements](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board?repos=175895515): In Progress * [[kapp-controller] Package Manager API MVP](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp-controller/issues/87): In Progress * [[kapp-controller] Enhancements](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board?repos=220090417): In Progress ### This Week's Plans * [Backlog](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board) * [Copy Recursive Bundles from registry to registry](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/85) * Pointing Estimate: 1 * [Copy Recursive Bundles from Lock file to registry](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/86) * Pointing Estimate: 1 * [Copy Recursive Bundles from Lock file to tar](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/87) * Pointing Estimate: 1 * [Schema supports floating types](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/292) * Pointing Estimate: 2 * [Retain executable flag on files in bundle](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/93) ### Triage Help _Community suggestions requiring resolution._ - [ytt#260: GitOps friendly command for ytt](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/260) \ _Support "Application Groups" for `ytt` ala `kapp`._ - [kapp#183: kapp should be a little more lenient for poorly formatted manifests when `kapp.k14s.io/versioned` is involved](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp/issues/183)\ _Versioned sub-functionality should succeed in deploying when iterating over null arrays_ - [kbld#97: Images present as args to a container command are not included nor substituted with kbld](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kbld/issues/97) \ _Extend `kbld`'s image reference scanning capabilities to search _within_ a value._ --- # March 1, 2021 Agenda ### Announcements * [Introducing Carvel Office Hours](https://hackmd.io/5Bh2IXwTShSrA0YdBY4AGg) - Every 2nd and 4th Thursday, starting March 11, 2021, 11:30am PST. ### Monthly Roadmap Review * We review the roadmap the first community meeting of each month. * **Action Item:** Helen George (Product Manager) to make Roadmap public ### Status Updates * imgpkg v0.5.0 ([release notes](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/releases/tag/v0.5.0)) * [[ytt] schemas](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/283): In Progress * [[imgpkg] Recursive Bundles](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/issues/68): In Progress * [[imgpkg] Performance Improvements](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/issues/65): In Progress * [[kapp] Enhancements](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board?repos=175895515): In Progress * [[kapp-controller] Package Manager API MVP](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp-controller/issues/87): In Progress * [[kapp-controller] Enhancements](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board?repos=220090417): In Progress ### This Week's Plans * [Backlog](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board) *(Watch [this clip](https://youtu.be/kIvJNaLRaLs?t=1968) from a past Carvel Community Meeting discussing what is "pointing" and why we point)* * [Copy Recursive Bundles to tar and import the tar to a registry](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/84) * Pointing Estimate: 2 * Continuing discussion from February 22: [Type check private library data values](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/296_) * Pointing Estimate: 3 * [Explore `kapp` incorporating externally-applied Resources](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp/194) * Pointing Estimate: 0 --- # February 22, 2021 Agenda ### Status Updates * [[ytt] schemas](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/283): In Progress. ### This Week's Plans * [Walk through this week's iteration](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board?repos=173207060,175895515,219018453,228296630,183293280,182335015,242393147,233947898,313435697,150145584,181289406,246354606) * Dennis - [Why imgpkg is inefficient](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/65) * Joao - * [Create a Recursive Bundle](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/82) * [Retrieve all Bundles referenced by a Bundle to disk](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/83) * [kapp should double check that k8s api returns labeled resources](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp/160) * John Ryan - [Type check private library data values](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/issues/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/296_) ### Discussion Topics (was not discussed this meeting due to lack of time) * Testing Frameworks conversation, the idea is for us to discuss the next results and what would be our plan (_postponed due to time_) Current results: Testing Frameworks: - Golang Testing Framework - 6 votes - Spec - 3 votes - Ginkgo - 4 votes Assertion/Matcher Frameworks: - Build your own - 1 vote - Testify - 8 votes - Gomega - 3 votes --- # February 8, 2021 Agenda ### Status Updates * [[imgpkg] --include-non-distributable](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/issues/64): Completed. Remaining step: consume the next ggcr release. * [[ytt] schemas](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/283): In Progress. * Up next: [imgpkg] enhancements, [[imgpkg] performance investigation](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/issues/66), [[imgpkg] recursive bundles](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/issues/68), [[ytt] overlay error message improvements](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/289), [ytt] enhancements ### This Week's Plans * [ZenHub board](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board?repos=173207060,175895515,219018453,183293280,182335015,242393147,313435697) (browser extension is required to see the board) ### Discussion Topics * Register to attend the [CNCF Webinar](https://t.co/OgT1g5bMnn?amp=1) happening February 9 at 10AM PT / 1PM ET --- # February 1, 2021 Agenda The start of the new meeting day + time! ### Status Updates * [[ytt] schemas](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/283) * [[imgpkg] --include-non-distributable](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/issues/64) * Up next: [[imgpkg] performance investigation](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/issues/66), [[imgpkg] recursive bundles](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/issues/68), [[ytt] overlay error message improvements](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/289) ### This Week's Plans * [ZenHub board](https://app.zenhub.com/workspaces/carvel-backlog-6013063a24147d0011410709/board?repos=173207060,175895515,219018453,183293280,182335015,242393147,313435697) (browser extension is required to see the board) ### Discussion Topics * Question: What is the context behind the application labels (e.g. kapp.k14s.io/app:123...)? What if current model uses https://kubernetes.io/docs/concepts/overview/working-with-objects/common-labels/? --- # January 27, 2021 Agenda ### Introductions 👋 - Introduce each team member, wave your hand! - Note about participating: - if you have a question or comment about the current topic, please speak up. - if you're reminded of another topic, please take note and ask in the "Open Discusion" time. ### Announcements 📣 - We're making changes to the community meeting (_this meeting_). Moving to every Monday at 11:30am PST. - We're moving to GitHub Projects! - GitHub issue voting :+1: - imgpkg v0.3.0 ([release notes](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/releases/tag/v0.3.0)) - kbld v0.28.0 ([release notes](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kbld/releases/tag/v0.28.0)) - current focuses and asks - ytt schemas (Cari) - Consistent error messages - A schema file provides [default data values](https://hackmd.io/pODV3wzbT56MbQTxbQOOKQ#Inferring-Default-Values) - imgpkg [non-distributable layers](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-imgpkg/issues/8) (Dennis) - New Website for imgpkg and vendir! https://carvel.dev/ - note: Documentation moves from our GitHub repos to this website. ### Carvel Tech Forum - [Assertion library discussion](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel/discussions/6) - Issue: Command to [validate data values](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/278) - _**(Community member? Please add your topic here!)**_ ### How can we better serve you? 👂 * [Carvel Community Meeting Feedback Form](https://forms.gle/nc6TBrsSRCp11FaA6) --- # January 13, 2021 Agenda :fireworks: Happy New Year! :fireworks: ### Introductions 👋 - Introduce each team member, wave your hand! - Note about participating: - if you have a question or comment about the current topic, please speak up. - if you're reminded of another topic, please take note and ask in the "Open Discusion" time. ### Announcements 📣 - ytt v0.31.0 ([release notes](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/releases/tag/v0.31.0)) - kapp-controller v0.14.0 ([release notes](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp-controller/releases/tag/v0.14.0)) - New Website! https://carvel.dev/ - note: Documentation moves from our GitHub repos to this website. ### Carvel Tech Forum - ✅ Dmitriy: https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/251 - (Did this get discussed on 12/9/20?) - ✅ ytt app-group https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/260 - ✅ Length of time before issues go stale (currently 45 days) - Assertion library discussion - _**(Community member? Please add your topic here!)**_ ### How can we better serve you? 👂 * [Carvel Community Meeting Feedback Form](https://forms.gle/nc6TBrsSRCp11FaA6) --- # December 9, 2020 Agenda ### Introductions 👋 - Introduce each team member, wave your hand! - Note about participating: - if you have a question or comment about the current topic, please speak up. - if you're reminded of another topic, please take note and ask in the "Open Discusion" time. ### Announcements 📣 - kapp-controller v0.13.0 ([release notes](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-kapp-controller/releases/tag/v0.13.0)) - Community meetings will resume January 13th ### Carvel Tech Forum - Dmitriy: [Hidden directory handling](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/240) - [GitHub Issues Triage](https://hackmd.io/y8hwYAX3SEuGS3p-2EdgHg) Overview (Cari) - Dmitriy: [Replacing single item with multiple items in overlays](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-ytt/issues/251) - Jonas: [KubeCon + CloudNativeCon Europe 2021 Call for Proposals (CFP)](https://events.linuxfoundation.org/kubecon-cloudnativecon-europe/program/cfp/) - _**(Community member? Please add your topic here!)**_ ### How can we better serve you? 👂 * [Carvel Community Meeting Feedback Form](https://forms.gle/nc6TBrsSRCp11FaA6) # November 25, 2020 ### Introductions 👋 ### Announcements 📣 - vendir v0.13.0 ([release notes](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-vendir/releases/tag/v0.13.0)) (Cari) - [Bug: Paths don't allow using path names that starts with a string that is used in other path names](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-vendir/issues/21) - vendir v0.14.0 ([release notes](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-vendir/releases/tag/v0.14.0)) (Cari) - No functional changes. Cutting release after move to vmware-tanzu. ### Carvel Tech Forum - ~~tour of `kapp` in use~~ - release process - automate? - packaging format (brew, today, chocolatey, win-get) - Developer Portal access — https://tanzu.vmware.com/developer/workshops/ - Run on Minikube from GitHub repo - https://github.com/eduk8s-labs/lab-getting-started-with-carvel - Walkthrough of the existing material - How to create your own - [GitHub Issues Triage](https://hackmd.io/y8hwYAX3SEuGS3p-2EdgHg) Community Review - _**(Community member? Please add your topic here!)**_ - the hidden directory problem - ### How can we better serve you? 👂 * [Carvel Community Meeting Feedback Form](https://forms.gle/nc6TBrsSRCp11FaA6) ### Notes - Tour of kapp use from Gal - (pull highlights from recording) - Release Process - where are we today? - it's fairly manual, today. - step: write out the "playbook" for how we do this today. - step: propose an approach to releasing all of our tools - informed by enumerating priority use cases - sets expectations so that others can plan around our work (mapped well to the road map) - - what is our release cadence? (when?) - calendar time vs. event time? - bugfix release vs. major/minor release - bugfix example: https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/carvel-vendir/pull/22#issuecomment-726251187 - achieve a "thin slice" of a feature - - automation? --- # November 11, 2020 ### Introductions ### Announcements - vendir v0.12.0 ([release notes](https://github.com/k14s/vendir/releases/tag/v0.12.0)) - KubeCon office hours - November 20th 10-10:45 PST ### Carvel Tech Forum - Dead Reckoning on imgpkg: Where are we now? Where are we going? - kbld package/unpackage: https://github.com/k14s/kbld/blob/develop/docs/packaging.md - Docs: https://github.com/k14s/imgpkg/tree/develop/docs - Releases: https://github.com/k14s/imgpkg/releases - Prior / Other Current Art - https://github.com/containers/skopeo - https://github.com/deislabs/oras - https://github.com/aws/containers-roadmap/issues/43#issuecomment-691091513 - _**(Community member? Please add your topic here!)**_ - ### How can we better serve you? 👂 * [Carvel Community Meeting Feedback Form](https://forms.gle/nc6TBrsSRCp11FaA6) # October 28, 2020 ### Introductions ### Announcements - kbld 0.27.0 ([release notes](https://github.com/k14s/kbld/releases/tag/v0.27.0)) - can now tag images pushed by kbld (thanks [@StarpTech](https://github.com/StarpTech)!) - now does additional digest check when unpacking relocated images - vendir 0.11.0 ([release notes](https://github.com/k14s/vendir/releases/tag/v0.11.0)) - you can now specify versions using SemVer! 😲 - VMware Tanzu Kubernetes Grid 1.2 was released ([release notes](https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Tanzu-Kubernetes-Grid/1.2/rn/VMware-Tanzu-Kubernetes-Grid-12-Release-Notes.html)) - using Carvel tools for templating and other stuff. ([example on Twitter](https://twitter.com/lamw/status/1318545840298840064?s=21)) ### Carvel Tech Forum - How can we make contributing to `kbld` easier? - GitHub issue from [@StarpTech](https://github.com/StarpTech): [k14s/kbld#54](https://github.com/k14s/kbld/issues/54) - _**(Community member? Please add your topic here!)**_ - ... --- # October 14, 2020 ### Introductions ### Announcements - [Schema](https://github.com/k14s/ytt) development has begun. Check out the [Proposal/Design Doc](https://hackmd.io/pODV3wzbT56MbQTxbQOOKQ) (👷‍ _pardon the construction dust_ 👷‍). - [ytt-vim](https://github.com/k14s/ytt.vim) has joined the k14s Github org! ### Carvel Tech Forum - Exploring [GitOps](https://www.gitops.tech/) - What is GitOps? - Introduction to [kapp-controller](https://github.com/k14s/kapp-controller) - [SOPS](https://github.com/mozilla/sops) integration ([docs](https://github.com/k14s/kapp-controller/blob/develop/docs/sops.md)) - Open Discussion ### How can we better serve you? 👂 * [Carvel Community Meeting Feedback Form](https://forms.gle/nc6TBrsSRCp11FaA6) --- # September 30,2020 ### Introductions ### Announcements - Will be migrating our repositories from [`k14s`](https://github.com/k14s) Github Organization to [`vmware-tanzu`](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu). - part of being a VMware-backed Open Source Project. ### Status Update - imgpkg (Cari) - [Proposal: bundle copying](https://github.com/k14s/imgpkg/tree/develop/proposals/001-bundles#pkg-copy--copy-bundles-and-images-to-various-locations-) - What's next - ytt Schema (John) - [Proposal and Design: Schema](https://github.com/k14s/design-docs/tree/develop/ytt/001-schemas) - Community (Aaron) - Renamed the Kubernetes Slack channel to [#carvel](https://kubernetes.slack.com/archives/CH8KCCKA5) from #k14s. - Watch: [Introduction to Carvel on Rawkode Live](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBCmMTofNxw) - User Research: better `ytt` overlay error messages - Planning on creating dedicated pages for more Carvel tools: - Next: [imgpkg](https://github.com/k14s/imgpkg) - Soon: [kapp-controller](https://github.com/k14s/kapp-controller) - Emmanuel Mayssat will be giving a [talk at EnvoyCon on WASM filters](https://envoycon2020.sched.com/event/eccg/hands-on-wasm-filters-and-singleton) which will include his usage of `ytt` ### Community Discussion Topics / Carvel Tech Forum :::info Do _you_ have a question? Topic to discuss? Add it below. 👇 ::: - [Structs](https://github.com/k14s/ytt/blob/develop/docs/lang-ref-ytt.md#struct), [Dictionaries](https://github.com/k14s/ytt/blob/develop/docs/lang-ref-dict.md), and [YAML Fragments](https://github.com/k14s/ytt/blob/develop/docs/lang-ref-yaml-fragment.md) - [ytt#208](https://github.com/k14s/ytt/issues/208): enhance structs to support iteration, bracket accessor, ... - ... ### How can we better serve you? 👂 * [Carvel Community Meeting Feedback Form](https://forms.gle/nc6TBrsSRCp11FaA6) --- # September 16, 2020 ### Introductions ### Announcements * Latest release * [kapp v0.34.0](https://github.com/k14s/kapp/releases/tag/v0.34.0) * [vendir v0.10.0](https://github.com/k14s/vendir/releases/tag/v0.10.0) * Renaming Kubernetes slack channel from `#k14s` to `#carvel` (Planned on Sep. 25) * [KubeCon + CloudNativeCon Euro 2020 Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=WJw1MDFMVuk) ### Status Update * [imgpkg update](https://github.com/k14s/imgpkg/tree/develop/proposals) (Garrett & Eli) * [Proposal: Bundles](https://github.com/k14s/imgpkg/tree/develop/proposals/001-bundles) * Schemas update (John & Cari) * [Proposal: Schemas](https://github.com/k14s/ytt/tree/develop/proposals/001-schemas) * ytt overlay error messages (Eli) ### Contributor Shoutouts * John B. - RegexpReplace in ytt * Arttii - [SOPS in Kapp-controller](https://github.com/k14s/kapp-controller/pull/27) ### Community Discussion Topics - Project visibility (Helen) ### We want to hear from you 👂 * [Feedback Form](https://forms.gle/nc6TBrsSRCp11FaA6)

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