# Octant Community Meeting

_This doc is meant to serve as the "one doc to rule them all" for Octant community meetings._

[Join the Octant community meetings every Wednesday at 1PM ET / 10AM PT](https://vmware.zoom.us/j/627117615)

_You can find recordings of these meetings [on YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7bmigfV0EqQ55lLisHHy2n1MDuRZasrR)._

_If you have anything you'd like to put on the agenda, please do so below for the next meeting:_

## March 25, 2020
### Agenda
* Released 0.11
* https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/releases/tag/v0.11.0
* Upcoming Focus
* Documentation
* Clarity is the theme:
* Seperate user content, creator content (plugins), and core content.
* Focus on distinction between octant.dev and markdown in repo.
* Clear guide for getting started writing a plugin.
* Clear guide for getting started using Octant.
* Electron Application
* Navigation redesign to support running in electron.
* Breadcrumbs
* Better CRD handling
* Loading without a kubeconfig
* Plugin Management
* Settings
* Plugin API v1
* Address the outstanding issues for the v1 epic.
* Allow plugins to provide HTML/JS assests (aka WebComponent)
* Documentation (see above)
* Next Up
* Resource Editing
* Resource Viewer
* Workload Viewer
* Object Status
* Future
* In-Cluster
* https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/tree/in-cluster-proposal
* Octant Office Hours
* https://calendly.com/wwitzel3/octant-office-hours
every Thursday from 13:00-17:00 EDT
* Demo
* Milan - Vertical navigation updates. https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/issues/340

### Open Q&A - add your questions here
* [andy shiefelbein] Ability to run raw html / javascript as a plugin (https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/issues/695)
* Is it possible to do standard html / javascript without the need to use the octant wraper for elements?
* Not yet, but we want to and will enable this. Likely as some kind of `WebComponent`. We'll have to think about it a bit more. Will update the issue accordinly.
* [sfoo] What do we think about using https://compodoc.github.io/compodoc-demo-todomvc-angular/ as a way to document Angular components?
* Pros:
* Cons:

## March 18, 2020
### Agenda
* Last PR in review for 0.11
* Terminal PR
* Upcoming prorities for Octant
* Electron/Application
* Editing
* Plugin API v1
* Future work
* In-Cluster
* Better networking support
* Demo
* New Terminal flow
* Memory improvements

### Open Q&A - add your questions here
* Sam - Do we want to move the Namespace picker?
* We'll leave it here.
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## March 11, 2020
### Agenda
* Moved logger to pkg. Octant does not require importing internal to build plugins
* Revisting client-go version [#766](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/issues/766)
* Added remaining components to unmarshal

### Open Q&A - add your questions here!
* Does Octant have plans to support a graph component? [#765](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/issues/765)

## March 04, 2020
### Agenda
* Next release soon™, waiting on these:
* Monaco YAML viewer
* Logger interface moved to pkg
* Terminal moved to tab
* CRD links not working after context changes
* Nice-to-have: Fix nightly in Github actions and remove drone
* Upcoming priorities
* Documentation
* Component Unmarshaling (important to Plugins)
* Electron Application
* Resource Viewer
* Navigation
* Fluid
* Octant In-Cluster
* Office Hours:
* https://calendly.com/wwitzel3/octant-office-hours

### Open Q&A - add your questions here!
* Is it possible, or on the roadmap, to group / organize CRDs in the navigation menu?
* 4 tekton and argo workflow and it was already too much.
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* Add your link here Andy!
* https://review.opendev.org/#/c/710868/ -- my update based on: https://github.com/airshipit/airshipui
* Issue around creating and passing a dashboard to plugin functions for testing
* the TestHandlers currently errors out with: register.go:94: Unexpected call to *fake.MockDashboard.List
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## February 26, 2020
### Agenda
* Latest bug fixes and updates
* Plugins can update summary sections [#718](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/pull/718)
* Plugin tabs duplicated [#728](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/pull/728)
* Status indictors [#716](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/pull/716)
* Logging epic updates [#660](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/issues/660)
* Azure Kubernetes Terminal
* Azure Kubernetes Logging
* Reminder, we have nightlies
* https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant#nightly-builds
* Proposal Review
* Combined Logging [#733](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/pull/733)

### Open Q&A - add your questions here!
* Dependency updates (Milan)
* dep check during CI/Actions running
* dev deps have lower concern
* try to keep deps and transitive deps Apache2 and friends.
* Issue [#448](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/issues/448) open to PRs? Guidance would be helpful

## February 19, 2020
### Agenda
* [Security Fix](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/security/advisories/GHSA-gpjj-rqgr-4pqp)
* Angular9 has landed in master
* Logging Updates (Milan)
* UI updates
* Plugin examples repo [octant-example-plugins](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant-example-plugins)

### Shoutout
* Persistant Volume Printer / Jordan Jensen & Andy Schiefe
* Multi-Context Logging / Jack Wink
* Octant RCE Bug / Jack Wink

### Open Q&A - add your questions here!
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## February 12, 2020
### Agenda
* Introducing Milan!
* Plugin updates.
* service.Request is now an interface [#645](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/pull/645)
* Get no longer returns a found bool [#643](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/pull/643)
* DashboardClient Create and Delete coming
* Unmarshal all the things [#646](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/issues/646)
* [Actions example plugin](https://github.com/wwitzel3/octant-actions-plugin)
* Logging updates. [#660](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/issues/660)
* Angular9 back in progress. [#665](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/pull/665)
* YAML viewer (Monaco) updates soon unblocked.
* allows us to lazy load components :+1:
* we hope, we think, probably

### Open Q&A - add your questions here!
* More example plugins? Best practices, patterns?
* Yes, we want to have a set of example plugins.
* We want to provide narrative documentation around plugins.
* We want to have best practices around plugins and create some common conventions.
* When will the Octant plugin page be up?
* Soon(tm)

### Technical
* Walk-Through: Octant Printers (during if time, else after)
* Discuss patterns / conventions used and why.
* Narrative documentation about how to create a component.

## February 5, 2020
### Agenda
* [0.10.1 released](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/releases/tag/v0.10.1)
* bug fixes
* Update to Angular 9 blocked by next Clarity release
* Move to Github Actions WIP see #[627](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/pull/627)
* Plugin Epic (Polychrome) #[613](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/issues/613)
* Electron Epic (Denali) #[550](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/issues/550)
* [jonas] Plugins page on octant.dev will be created shortly

### Open Q&A - add your questions here!

## January 29, 2020
### Agenda
* [0.10 released](https://octant.dev/octant-0.10-release/)
* bug fixes coming in 0.10.1
* Electron prototyping
* Angular9
* Monaco
* octant-vulnerabilities-plugin by Daniel Pacak from Aqua Security

### Open Q&A - add your questions here!
* (dpacak) What's the status of adding buttons / action handlers in custom plugins?
* Soon, https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/issues/421

## January 22, 2020
### Agenda
* 0.10 update, releasing this week!
* After 0.10, priorities
* plugins
* documentation
* application
* workflow improvements
* Monaco integration (read-only at first)

### Open Q&A - add your questions here!

* (jdolitsky) Providing Kube context to plugins? See [#459](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/issues/459)

## January 14, 2020
### Agenda
* 0.10 update
* Terminal demo
* Plugins
* API consistency
* remove dependency on internal
* add WebComponent (custom js/html)
* Community meeting cadence. (going weekly, Wednesdays at 1PM ET / 10AM PT)
* Come dig into the "[good first issue](https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3A%22good+first+issue%22)" issues!

### Open Q&A - add your questions here!

* [Gary Smith] Can we run Octant without having an active K8s connection, for bootstrap scenarios?
* https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/issues/362
* https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/issues/454

## December 10, 2019
### Agenda
* What big changes are going into the next release?
* Create workload viewer: https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/pull/452
* Implement quick-switcher: https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/pull/434
* Plugins!
* State of the ecosystem
* Current known plugins
* https://github.com/topics/octant-plugin
* Plugin wishlist
* https://github.com/vmware-tanzu/octant/issues/471
* Moving to GitHub Actions

### Open Q&A - add your questions here!

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## November 12, 2019
### Agenda

* Review upcoming release (0.10)
* What's coming next?
* https://octant.dev is live!!

### Open Q&A - add your questions here!

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## October 8, 2019
### Agenda

* Review upcoming release (0.8)
* Aiming for Thursday/early next week
* What's coming next?
* Still working on the Octant landing page

### Open Q&A - add your questions here!

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### Notes

* octant 0.9:
* more editing of k8s objects
* allow plugins to extend in this area
* better docs around new action model (they are used to power current editing capabilities)
* being able to exec within a container
* viewing deployments at the application level - using guidance from "recommended labels"
* when your app is using these labels, we can show it using that label display, using existing resource viewer. label instead of "ownerRef"
* integration with things like helm
* fix open plugin bugs
* adding new components as-needed
* have identified some performance and memory issues, so sam & wayne are working on narrowing these down
* will hold next release (0.9) until memory issue is fixed
* cutting release of 0.8 on Thu 10/10
* memory issue:
* we've known of the memory issue for awhile. it has become worse lately.
* have run into it a bit recently
* wayne drafting up a proper ticket for it today
* if things are looking good for memory issue, we will hold 0.8 to wait for its fix. if not, we'll release 0.8 on 10/10 and then potentially follow up 0.8.1 for the memory issue
* octant website will be up "soon". next community call should have something to show. keep an eye out for that!
* will investigate adding nightly builds

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## September 10, 2019
### Agenda

* Introduction
* Review 0.7
* Websockets walk through
* Open discussion

### Notes

* Octant website is coming soon!
* Examples apps for testing Octant with Kubernetes
* https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/microservices-demo