Meeting Index
2019-06-04 Dolphin Tank: Housing edition!
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Date: Tue, June 4 2019 @ 7:30-9pm
Location: Myplanet
Host: @patcon :: Facilitator Guide
Participants: (Slack)
Notes offered idea to workshop
intros
Patrick Connolly. interested in empowering grassroots organizing, and its sustainability. co-organizer. developer.
Laura L.P (late-comer).
Ken Kuchling. engineer. here to understand how to re-animate past app he built.
Prat Sureka. tech+policy 10 years. new to toronto.
Kate Skipton.
Laura Anonen politics. cares about renovictions. works for councillor.
:. UX, education. works in insurance. interested in property development on blockchain to improve access to gains. not technical.
youlian.
housing rights and evictions (Laura Anonen)
laura
watching sidewalk labs convo
seeing EPIC project in NYC, and curious about bringing it here #todo what project? add links laura
helps people have information on evictions
ken what can people do if they know?
organize with others affected instead of working alone (collective action),
mount legal defenses ,
have more sense of control instead of just panicking.
how do ppl know about evictions?
N-13 notices. (voluntary but central database of evictions)
populated by tenant submissions?
prat berlin is doing some interesting things. rent control act. one-of-kind legislation, to his best knowldge.
#todo prat investigate berlin. share links
rent legislation is all at provincial level
current party in power is not supporting tenant rights, so solutions must be grassroots for now.
city can't make laws about tenants without prov support.
[name] best way to fight?
laura embarrass the owners
can fight the notices, but even knowing that's possible is a space for action
legal aid clinic funding cut, so they're strapped thin already. community particularly important now.
prat #todo investigate NESTA UK
post-hacknight additions (things added after) patcon
data driven project in NYC: https://map.displacementalert.org/
people to say hi to:
Slack places to say introduce yourself in:
#t-affordable-housing
(lina's channel for shared interest)
proj-housing-rights
(alyssa pending project channel)
blockchain property group-buy
Concept Paper released: https://g-model.io/
not technical, but learning blockchain
math is in process of being checked
having lots of conversations
looking or technical blockchain partners, and more convos
inspired by Debt: The First 5,000 Years (book)
Pirated version
feel debt is a bit sinister function in society
they have become financial products
system is largely static
terms used: blockchain, initial coin offering (ICO), token generation events
idea was heard as being about raising funds or crowdfunding for many (10,000 ppl) buying property token, and having access to returns of property at low buy-in.
example: 10,000 investors at $1000 each for a $10,000,000 building with many 60 units
not everyone can live in building, and so those who get to live there (decided through an out-of-scope mechanism, not necessarily technical) – these people get to slowly buy-out the tokens of the other investors, with modest dividends.
those investors get a return that they wouldn't normally have access to, but goal is eventual ownership of property by those living there
it's a token ecosystem
patcon: how did others understand this
crowdfund (all)
: not actually associated with that in his mind, but many ppl say
zeitgeist (?)
shared economy (?)
prat: The Entrpreneurial State: Debunking Public vs. Private Myths in Risk and Innovation (book)
splitting price of property (kate)
like a co-op (laura anonen)
REIT feels similar (ken)
someone Why does other people invest [if they don't live there]?
laura L.P this sounds kinda like mortgages, which as we know, have become commoditized. why is this different? Why won't it be commoditized?
- : no longterm debt
- patcon: isn't that just because this is currently outside eyes of law? Is it any different from mortgage markets?