Meeting Index

2019-06-04 Dolphin Tank: Housing edition!

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Date: Tue, June 4 2019 @ 7:30-9pm
Location: Myplanet
Host: @patcon :: Facilitator Guide
Participants: (Slack)

• - @Laura Anone, @youlian, @patcon, (later) @KateS, @Laura L.P, @Prat, @Ken K

Notes

offered idea to workshop

• intros
  • Patrick Connolly. interested in empowering grassroots organizing, and its sustainability. co-organizer. developer.
  • Laura L.P (late-comer).
  • Ken Kuchling. engineer. here to understand how to re-animate past app he built.
  • Prat Sureka. tech+policy 10 years. new to toronto.
  • Kate Skipton.
  • Laura Anonen politics. cares about renovictions. works for councillor.
  • :. UX, education. works in insurance. interested in property development on blockchain to improve access to gains. not technical.
  • youlian.

housing rights and evictions (Laura Anonen)

• laura
  • watching sidewalk labs convo
  • seeing EPIC project in NYC, and curious about bringing it here #todo what project? add links laura
    • helps people have information on evictions
    • ken what can people do if they know?
      • organize with others affected instead of working alone (collective action),
      • mount legal defenses,
      • have more sense of control instead of just panicking.
    • how do ppl know about evictions?
      • N-13 notices. (voluntary but central database of evictions)
        • populated by tenant submissions?
    • prat berlin is doing some interesting things. rent control act. one-of-kind legislation, to his best knowldge.
      • #todo prat investigate berlin. share links
• rent legislation is all at provincial level
  • current party in power is not supporting tenant rights, so solutions must be grassroots for now.
  • city can't make laws about tenants without prov support.
  • [name] best way to fight?
    • laura embarrass the owners
    • can fight the notices, but even knowing that's possible is a space for action
• legal aid clinic funding cut, so they're strapped thin already. community particularly important now.
• prat #todo investigate NESTA UK
• post-hacknight additions (things added after) patcon
  • data driven project in NYC: https://map.displacementalert.org/
  • people to say hi to:
    • Lina Pulido. LinkedIn (on slack, active)
    • Alyssa Brierly. LinkedIn (on slack, less active)
    • Melissa Goldstein. LinkedIn (not on slack) https://twitter.com/erraticheretic
  • Slack places to say introduce yourself in:
    • #t-affordable-housing (lina's channel for shared interest)
    • proj-housing-rights (alyssa pending project channel)

blockchain property group-buy

• Concept Paper released: https://g-model.io/
  • not technical, but learning blockchain
  • math is in process of being checked
  • having lots of conversations
  • looking or technical blockchain partners, and more convos
• inspired by Debt: The First 5,000 Years (book)
  • Pirated version
  • feel debt is a bit sinister function in society
  • they have become financial products
  • system is largely static
  • terms used: blockchain, initial coin offering (ICO), token generation events
• idea was heard as being about raising funds or crowdfunding for many (10,000 ppl) buying property token, and having access to returns of property at low buy-in.
  • example: 10,000 investors at $1000 each for a $10,000,000 building with many 60 units
  • not everyone can live in building, and so those who get to live there (decided through an out-of-scope mechanism, not necessarily technical) – these people get to slowly buy-out the tokens of the other investors, with modest dividends.
  • those investors get a return that they wouldn't normally have access to, but goal is eventual ownership of property by those living there
  • it's a token ecosystem
• patcon: how did others understand this
  • crowdfund (all)
    • : not actually associated with that in his mind, but many ppl say
  • zeitgeist (?)
  • shared economy (?)
  • prat: The Entrpreneurial State: Debunking Public vs. Private Myths in Risk and Innovation (book)
    • Pirate version
  • splitting price of property (kate)
    • like timeshare?
  • like a co-op (laura anonen)
  • REIT feels similar (ken)
• someone Why does other people invest [if they don't live there]?
  • niall: dividends
• laura L.P this sounds kinda like mortgages, which as we know, have become commoditized. why is this different? Why won't it be commoditized?
• - : no longterm debt
  - patcon: isn't that just because this is currently outside eyes of law? Is it any different from mortgage markets?