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Monday March 31, 2025

Attendees:

PRs Ready for Review:

• Ready for review/merge (*approved already):

  • 22647 validateaxis
  • 22527 * add returns sections to construct.py function
  • 22169 refactor CSC to use CSR sparsetools

• Think about:

  • 21925 broadcasting of _binop at C++ level
    • row broadcasting is easy. col requires a few differences
    • do we put col broadcasting into the existing functions, or as a separate func?
    • if we split col broadcasting, do we support both general and canonical for this case?
  • 21743 test_base.py split.  2 issues:
    • right now Test64bit sparray tests are run when "slow" tests are run. spmatrix tests always.
    • Test64bit is hard to separate from the rest of test_base.py when testing
    • Q1: should we turn on sparray beyond "slow" tests? should we change spmatrix at all?
    • Q2: is it worth splitting out Test64Bit  to a separate module to allow partial testing?
  • 19984 binop general/canonical discussion
    - simple heuristic to pick general or sort+canonical
    - or docs to push users to choose

Monday March 17, 2025

Attendees: CJ, Stefan

PRs Ready for Review:

• Ready for review/merge (*approved already):

  • 22647 validateaxis
  • 22535 * add returns sections to construct.py function
  • 22169 refactor CSC to use CSR sparsetools

• Read through (easy?)

  • 22535 update roadmap sparse

• Think about:

  • 21925 broadcasting of _binop at C++ level
    • row broadcasting is easy. col requires a few differences
    • do we put col broadcasting into the existing functions, or as a separate func?
    • if we split col broadcasting, do we support both general and canonical for this case?
  • 21743 test_base.py split.  2 issues:
    • right now Test64bit sparray tests are run when "slow" tests are run. spmatrix tests always.
    • Test64bit is hard to separate from the rest of test_base.py when testing
    • Q1: should we turn on sparray beyond "slow" tests? should we change spmatrix at all?
    • Q2: is it worth splitting out Test64Bit  to a separate module to allow partial testing?
  • 19984 binop general/canonical discussion
    - simple heuristic to pick general or sort+canonical
    - or docs to push users to choose

Monday March 3, 2025

Attendees: Dan, CJ

Active PRs and Issues

• PR 22535: Update sparse part of roadmap

• PR 22527: Add Returns sections to _construct.py

• nD features:

  • PR 22540: nD binop split from broadcasting
  • After that PR, COO nD supports most features. Still need:
    • triu,tril,vstack,hstack,block_array
    • diagonal
    • _matmul_sparse
  • nD invites other features (in array-api)
    • expand_dims, permute_dims, flip, move_axis, squeeze, etc in manipulation funcs
    • keepdims kwarg wherever used in array-api?
    • indexing
    • nD CSR with (cached?) conversion to 2D for most ops
    • nD DOK

• binop general/canonical discussion

  • Do we come up with a simple heuristic or add docs to push users to choose?
  • This will interact with changes to implement broadcasting. So good to resolve now(?).

Monday February 17, 2025

Attendees: CJ, Dan

News:

• A number of PRs/backports for SciPy v1.15 have been merged.
  • selecting wrong dtype for coo coords #22353
  • revert NotImplemented return values in dot and matmul #22373 Need to raise b/c numpy handles sparse as object dtype.
  • handle A[1,:,None] index for spmatrix #22472
• Lower priority doc & err msg changes not backported.
• We've helped a number of libraries switch to sparray.
  • networkx, dipy (summer 2024)
  • scikit-image
  • pyamg
  • cvxpy
  • sklearn tests for sparray (I think this is pass 1 of migration doc, but haven't looked hard)
• To do:
  • scikit-learn pass 2
  • mne-python
  • librsb & pyRSB
  • pytorch and pytorch.vision
  • supyx.sparse
  • sfepy (finite element)
  • fipy (pde solver – finite element)
  • scikit-umfpack
  • trilinos
  • scvers

PR discussions, Topics/Questions:

• nD features:
  • PR 22540: nD binop split from broadcasting
    • coo copies python code for binopt & minmax from _compressed.py and _data.py
    • minmax calls mixin methods without subclassing. works, but why not subclass?
  • PR 21613: broadcasting with copies
  • Currently nD-add/sub creates duplicates without calling sum_duplicates
  • Q: should CSR support nD with an axis arg? Or call it something other than CSR? (1D currently uses the name CSR)
• Q: How to reliably time binop sparsetools?
  • Issue 19984: predictably slow "add"
    • Considering general vs sort & canonical, general is predictably slower for some parameter regions. (most of the time it is faster)
    • Posts from commit 618c4ea and #1385 (comment) suggest that nbell put general back in due to an incorrect timing reported on the issue.
    • Need to check whether sorting followed by canonical is faster than general. My timing comment shows that the general method is usually faster for unsorted indices. But some conditions make it slower than sort & canonical. The conditions seem to be large M with small nnz. But large M suggests should switch to CSC format.
  • PR 21925: broadcasting without copy will need timing for this
    • Currently general & canonical
    • broadcast indptr can be easily included
    • broadcast indices could be separate func or separated in an if clause.
    • C++ changes: PR 21925 csr.h
  • PR 22169: CSC binop via CSR and _swap Timing? (no difference? but how to check that)

Follow-up items for 1.16

• dont copy when broadcasting
• support int32 index arrays for nD
• improve coo_todense_nd performance?
• avoid assigning to self? Maybe assign self/other -> A/B
• choose priority between CSR nD and broadcasting w/o copy

Monday December 9, 2024

Attendees: Dan, CJ, Stéfan

News:

• SciPy v1.15 maintenance branch PRs
  • completed Dec 7
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  • PR 21435: nD matmul, dot, tensordot
  • PR 21858: safely_cast_index_dtype
    • Migration Guide refers to this, but it is private (inside _sputils). Is that a problem?
  • PR 21944: add broadcast_shapes
  • PR 21753: migration guide updates
  • PR 21905: migrate scipy.io to sparray
  • PR 21888: random_state -> rng
  • PR 21824: set idx_dtype at creation where possible
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Follow-up items for 1.16

• dont copy when broadcasting
• support int32 index arrays for nD
• improve csr_todense_nd performance??
• avoid assigning to self? Maybe assign self/other -> A/B

PR Discussion:

• Try Broadcasting in sparsetools.
  • PR 21925 Feedback on approach?
    • C++ changes: PR 21925 csr.h
    • Python changes: PR 21925 changes in _binopt
• nD elementwise mixed with broadcasting
  • PR 21613
  • lots here. should we split? or try to fix/merge/follow-up
  • broadcasting works, but copies data
  • coo copies binopt & minmax from _compressed
  • minmax calls mixin methods without subclass (which might be ok?)

sparray migration PR Tracking:

Conversion of SciPy subpackages to sparray

• sparray migration: csgraph docs: PR 21873 merged
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• sparray migration: linalg: PR 21710 merged
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• sparray migration: optimize: 1st pass PR 21785 merged
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• sparray migration: io: PR 21905
• scikit-image
• sparray migration optimize pass 2 – in progress.
• pyamg
• scikit-sparse
• cvxpy
• sklearn

Monday November 25, 2024

Attendees: Dan, CJ

News:

• SciPy release timing for 1.15 is Dec 6 for the maintenance branch.

Topics Discussion:

• For v1.15
  • Finish idx_dtype handling
    • first 2 PRs in PR discussion
  • switch scipy.io and optimize to sparray.
  • looks like this might get merged gh-21435 Add nd COO support for matmul, dot and tensordot
  • Migration Guide
  • Improve csr_todense_nd performance??
• Broadcasting in sparsetools.
  • two PRs. not trying to do views. Just changing loop control with B/C in mind.
    • csr.h to get idea of approach. _binopt for what changes in python code.
    • need new broadcast_shapes function. numpy checks memory available so doesn't work for 32-bit systems.
• Other nD topics:
  • 32-bit indexing for COO nd

PR Review Discussions:

• idx_dtype:
  • PR 21824: set idx_dtype inside sparse. approved 2 wks ago, but some new additions, and better handling of previous changes by moving inside constructors like arange, np.concatenate, etc. Also fixes Issue 20389: maintain int64 idx_dtype in vstack
  • PR 21858: safely cast index arrays helper function for idx_dtype.
    • two reviews so far. no approvals yet.
    • remove msg kwarg? allows e.g. "for SuperLU" in errmsg "indptr values too large for SuperLU". See @stefanv and @perimosocordiae comments.
• Migration to sparray
  • PR 21905: scipy.io migration to sparray Requires new keyword arg to indicate sparray/spmatrix. Can we go over the deprecation plan to see if it looks OK?
    • maybe need note in sparray migration guide about mmread(file, sparray=True)
  • PR 21573: update sparray migration guide Should be ready.
• PR 21743: unmark sparray 64bit slow move sparray test64bit tests out of slow. Separate test_base.py from test_64bit.py
• Broadcasting:
  • PR 21925: broadcast binopt Change to csr_binop_csr to do broadcasting inside C++. Look at csr.h changes
  • PR 21944: broadcast_shapes()new function broadcast_shapes needed to avoid numpy restrictions on dense array size.
• nD PRs:
  • Issue 21923: interest in nD functions From CVXPY. Want np funcs like extend_dims, nd-kron, swap_axes.
  • gh-21435 Add nd COO support for matmul, dot and tensordot
  • gh-21613: 2D broadcasting and nD COO binops and reductions(min/max/sum)
  • Final PR from nD internship: vstack/hstack/etc construction functions. Written but not submitted yet.
• randoms_state -> rng. Merged
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  PR 21888: SPEC 7 Keyword arg name switched to rng. After deprecation period, only Generators will be used. Implemented for rand, random and random_array.

sparray migration PR Tracking:

Conversion of SciPy subpackages to sparray

• sparray migration: csgraph docs: PR 21873 merged
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• sparray migration: io: PR Requires new keyword arg to indicate sparray/spmatrix. Can we go over the deprecation plan to see if it looks OK?
• sparray migration optimize pass 2 – in progress. waiting for HIGHS library to be setup. That's in. linprog still not removed.
• PR 21799: is_sptriangular function merged
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