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    ###### tags: `shoutout`, `da0`,`HyperCerts` # 2/15 NOAH訪聊da0的激勵機制(&HC) 2023/02/15 16:00-17:00 討論者:NOAH、維人、珮杏 ## 激勵機制 先丟一些想到的關鍵字備查 評價難度 行政勞動 評價責任壓力 非同質誘因 圖騰---儀式、故事、共同體象徵 故事 評價 維人: 社科是描述機制 珮杏: 敘事才是本體 有人要做科學,用文學的語言來包裝 吸引外面的人進來 認識人 同質化評分 起心動念 激勵坑主貢獻 shouout跟史詩很棒 要怎麼繼續往下走 有很多是可以做 slackbox有showcase 別人的comment 自己的comment 專案管理人也可以把comment 敘事 資料庫 daily conversation 上鏈之後可以給大家一起用 分散坑主的心理壓力跟勞力 坑內 emoji 把史詩抓出來 坑跟坑之間要怎麼評量 要怎麼分配 有個問題 分配的比例知道,但總impact不會知道--這個問題比較大 坑主互評 珮杏:互評的過程比互評的結果更重要 同質化分數redadane 增進彼此了解跟合作的機制 有沒有工具去降低心理門檻 大松有上去報告就可以讓大家知道這個機制 分數的意義目前不明顯。若分數要有意義 要有usecase 例如foundation 到那之前還有很多步 目前現階段以史詩跟shoutout為主 珮杏: 評分/史詩/shoutout---徵求內外的認同 目前訪問的人: 對刀疤貓的看法不同 可能溝通不足 所以目前成效不足 目前坑跟坑也是蠻分散--g0v本身的樣子 所以用單一的icon會有點侷限 維人: **會不會有可能是因為"圖騰"沒有儀式化** 刀疤貓沒有儀式化 舉例:部落獵野豬 重點不是野豬,而是聚會上經過語言講述形成共同體:某人獵野豬的過程有多英勇 noah:目前刀疤貓是上而下,沒有轉譯過程也沒有轉譯的場合 沒有一個大的公開channel 應該用比較下而上的東西去trigger人 其他人分享: 分數是沒感覺、刀疤貓可愛但似乎少了什麼、shoutout溝通不足-->這個把機制修正好,應該擴散會很快 shoutout轉換成分數,是因為要unifiy,要有一個usecase 所以要如何快速轉起來 維人:"債"的概念 有一筆資金因為相信g0v裡面的兩個專案,而去挹注g0v 那今天有第三個專案也需要來用錢,那第三個專案「欠」了那兩個專案 所以需要一個紀錄 noah: 目前g0v是以project去找 而不是用da0 也有想過用平方募資,但還碰到一些問題 維人:如果是以project為單位去申請,那跨坑的評分沒有太大誘因 noah:貢獻更大的坑主拿到 維人: **虧欠跟power是兩種路線,虧欠是橫向關係、power是上對下** 假設外面拿來100元,專案拿多少,就記錄下來 **當你看得到誰用什麼理由申請了多少錢,那其他人有沒有給,你會更了解彼此是怎麼樣的人** noah: 鳩松團有人對web3的科技不太信任,也不在少數 維人:**虧欠這個步驟繞不過去** 行動主義:做事的人會最大(power) 錢進來了:做事的人會有越大的話語權(power) 新專案要跟大會話語權更大的專案要錢的話,要怎麼辦? 請問這時候新專案有虧欠嗎? 有 其他坑主把信任放在這個坑主上 這個power不是arbitrary 如果我不分給你 就表示不信任你或覺得案子不值得或自己更需要 記帳是另一種模式 是讓所有人都看得到申請多少錢 這個步驟還是要在 雖然動力有一點點改變 **大重點會放在shoutout,分數變附屬,再來看怎麼做** 分數目前沒有實質意義,用參與度去評就比較平均 ## HyperCerts: 短期不能轉賣 事後捐款 啟動的人變多 hc怎麼讓project隨時啟動,讓市場知道 事後比事前好 開源--(跟碳權邏輯很像。假設N個企業採用同一套技術,這個技術是某個非營利團體搞出來的,其中有一些有買HC,一些沒有買HC,會形成壓力讓那些沒有買的企業去買--使用者付費--社會投資) 社交功用--身分象徵 公共財的部分 政府來做一定是事後給 企業來做就會壟斷 HC讓有一些政府不會給的,做到一半就能拿到資金,這樣可能會讓一些案子願意開始做,不會等 靠資料公開跟可溯源的特性,分擔或取代慈善組織或政府重分配的accuracy不公開 即使我們想像所有轉移款項總數不變 目前重分配就兩種,公-政府 跟 私-慈善團體或募資平台 hc搶走了那兩個管道的錢,那要看的是accuracy跟行政的效益 慈善公開很難做,政府公開要編列人/法規/部門,成本高 產生公信力跟更大的效益 HC依然比這兩個管道更好,因為公開、可溯源、必須公開敘事/資料庫去搶奪 行政成本少、不需要在法規上成立部門 減塑 給市場知道SG可以往這邊走 MATTERS 教育 台大課程 協助FAB的項目--做完之後是一個SHOWCASE 現階段看大慈善家會不會進來

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