Welcome to episode twenty three! This is your host, Doug Smith. This is Not An AI art podcast is a podcast about, well, AI ART – technology, community, and techniques. With a focus on stable diffusion, but all art tools are up for grabs, from the pencil on up, and including pay-to-play tools, like Midjourney. Less philosophy – more tire kicking. But if the philosophy gets in the way, we'll cover it.
But plenty of art theory!
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Show notes are always included and include all the visuals, prompts and technique examples, the format is intended to be so that you don't have to be looking at your screen – but the show notes have all the imagery and prompts and details on the processes we look at.
They only used it for promo materials and not the cards.
…I'd be shocked if their artists aren't using it already. There's already been scandals where people were using reference art, and… Didn't actually wind up overpainting it and got busted by the artists.
It's philosophical, but, I'm reminded if the Picasso quote:
Good artists copy, great artists steal.
-Picasso
Which I personally interpret to mean: Artists learn from and borrow from one another in order to grow art in general. They learn and use references from one another.
Blatantly taking a copy of something without making it your own is whack – that's like when I complain about thin concepts.
Photobashing is a thing though, and way before AI art generations. In fact check out this post where it was banned on reddit sub for digital painting, 10 years ago. Which is, I think myopic, but, it's my opinion. And see this article about what photo bashing is.
I think a lot of the public overlooks "how the sausage is made" – maybe you don't want to know.
My father is a signmaker, and he originally made all his signs hand carved, but… He's used a CNC machine since 1996 or so. And his stuff is awesome. But he doesn't advertise "I carve these with CNC!" people like to believe their sign was hard carved, he doesn't try to fool them either (and doesn't need to).
Overall: This is RIDICULOUS. The generations I'm getting are insane.
Everything you want out of midjourney original generations – with no frills. No regional variations, no outpainting, no pan. Just generations.
There's also upscaling which provides really big images, we're talking 2400px range.
Some folks have complaints that the hands have regressed from version 5.
Lots of praise for prompt coherence.
Hot take: Midjourney is WAY better than DALL-E, especially for someone who's interested in graphic arts in general and has an ability to iterate. I feel like DALL-E has some signature look that's… Honestly, it's ugly, it's oversaturated. And to me? Prompt coherence is only part of the battle, even if DALL-E is the reigning champion.
And the prompt coherence is rather swell.
As an homage to (Dali's retrospective bust of a woman)[https://www.dalipaintings.com/retrospective-bust-of-a-woman.jsp]
This turned out really cool, I was really just messing around, but I love referencing Zena Holloway – worth checking out the artist, too.
Granted, the faces are a little… Ivory-ish, doll-ish? Bad skin tone. But other things are working out.
Here's one I was really happy with…
Original generation:
This didn't take much for edits to get it where I wanted, I didn't even run it through stable diffusion in this case. Original generations are getting better all the time.
But still, I edited:
You can check out @noco_feverdream on Instagram!
I'd like to welcome Mitch Teich the creator behind the instagram account, NoCo Fever Dreams!
Mitch a professional broadcaster, sooooo… Enjoy the ride as I stumble and Mitch sounds all awesome.
I met Mitch as a guest on the fantastic public radio broadcast and podcast 'Northwords.' (you can find the episode featuring my project here) Well, today, we're flipping the script. I'm joined by the host of 'Northwords' and the creative mind behind the Instagram account 'noco fever dreams' — a microdose of fever induced psychedelia with absurdist, surreal, and undeniably humorous AI-generated art.
Also, if you like this kinda stuff, check out: https://www.reddit.com/r/weirddalle/
Mitch uses the prompts as the description in instagram, so…
Which includes the world's best hashtag ever: #hypotheticalTV
Also make sure to check out the midlibrary.io article about MJv6
From one of their prompt template examples…
Really good skin tone and texture.
Another from an item in the gallery
Rather clean rendering…
Now let's try to put our own thing into it…
Now let's turn the LoRA way down
From an example…
Using "jpeg" in the negative prompt.
It has subtle impact, but, definitely has a little impact. I think it's kind of a crap shoot based on your prompt.
Note that I used a x/y/z plot, and I needed something to replace in the negative prompt, so, I used "z0rg" which hopefully has little impact on the generations, maybe a little anyway.
Open the images in a new tab to zoom in and check 'em out.
The eternal question remains: Should you train with it or not? Which might be an even better experiment.
Inspired by this reddit thread.
But in this case, I used an existing LoRA I trained that's supposed to be the kind of "stereotypical outdoor social media influencer gal". And in a stereotypical fashion, this LoRA likes producing puffy jackets and yoga pants.
And I used the keyword or not…
It has quite an impact on a simple prompt… You can see that with the keyword included, outdoorgals
, you seem to get outdoor photography (which it was definitely trained on, all outdoor photography)
And a little less so on a more complex on… Maybe subtlely. Although I definitely feel like the compositions are more true to what it's trained on, and in my opinion, are better and more interesting compositions.