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    - Settlement fund: per person - 一萬三 - 不用加幣 - Company fund - 公司要準備 10萬~20萬元 CAD per team For First Two Year - 先前 Ethan 講需要 30 萬元 - 最低:三個月投入一次 17000 元,要投四次/每年 - 孵化器講的 - Gray 和 Eva: - 依照目前股權分配 - 以十萬來算,約略一萬 per person - 可能不用 - Incubator fund:per team - alpha program: 1 萬 - beta program: 3萬 - PR application fee: police report, IELTS, application fee (around 200?) ------- - Gray, Eva: - Settlement fund: 13,757 CAD - 13,757 - https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/proof-funds-start-business-class.html - 可能每年都會檢查 - 並不需要拿出來錢到公司帳號 - Company fund: 10000 per person - 先假設公司需要十萬 - 一年內分四次付完 - 或甚至可以保留在個人的銀行帳戶中(待確認) - 18000*4=72000 - 第二年若是需要另外的一萬再說 - Incubator fund:8000 per person - 因為預計會有五個人申請 SUV - Alpha: 10000/4 = 2500 - Beta : 30000/4 = 7500 - PR application fee: 985 per person - Right of permanent residence fee: 575 - Police Clearance from Taiwan and translation: 70+40 - IELTS: 300 - Immigration lawyer fee: ? - to be consider. Not sure by team or by person. - 10000 + 10000 + 985 = 20985 - 公司資本有十萬 - 萬一需要增資(譬如 IRCC 要求需要更多資本),需要大家依照股權投票 - 移民律師費未算 - (Allen 的研究)依照貢獻度比較股權,用薪水來計算 - 照理會需要在前六個月工作每週 37.33 小時。之後一直到第三年,每週工作 約 13.06~14 小時。然後股權分配從第一年到第五年是 1%,1%,1%,3%,4% 的分配。第四年和第五年分別每週做 10.09 和 8.57 小時,第五年做完就有公司完整的 10% 股權。 - alternative: 需要在前六個月工作每週 24 小時(若拿到工作,就轉成 14 小時,所需的時數放到後面)。之後一直到第三年,每週工作 14 小時。然後股權分配從第一年到第五年是 1%,1%,1%,2%,6% 的分配。第四年和第五年分別每週做 13.76 和 11.57 小時,第五年做完就有公司完整的 10% 股權。 - 退場機制:若沒做到第五年,也可以用每個月為單位來退股。 - 更新:可以以基本時薪薪資拿回錢,外加拿回 company fund。但是就沒有另外的賣股權部分。若是公司有募資過,才能用募資的 10% 再乘以股權來賣給公司。 - 估價部分,拿到 PR 之前退股最高可以拿回自己所付出的時間和專業乘以可能八成的比例(更新:討論結果為基本薪資)或是公司價值的比例(若是公司有被募資公司估價的話),折衷方法可能是專業以基本時薪來算,最低拿的方案是。拿到 PR 之後,需要扣掉 PR 的價值。 - 假設租房公司被估價兩千萬到一億台幣,就是公司當下可以賣到 200萬~1000萬台幣,拿回股權可以用這個金額再乘以股權比例拿(這是台灣公司的估價,加拿大的會更高得多)。 - Eva 會需要在前四個月工作每週 20 小時。之後一直到第三年,每週工作 約 13.06~14 小時。然後股權分配從第一年到第五年是 1%,1%,1%,3%,4% 的分配。第四年和第五年分別每週做 10.09 和 8.57 小時,第五年做完就有公司完整的 10% 股權。 - 可以想像是在外面找到一家公司,然後那將公司在你投入 18985 元之後,花費以上時間,工作五年能夠拿到 PR,並且你獲得 10% 股權 - 退股機制 - 股權分配每年是 1,1,1,3,4 的分配,到第五年會分完 10% - 會認可先前所投入的時間和金錢 - 也會認可公司的既有支出和盈餘 - 若是公司開始有盈餘,會認可盈餘,並且嘗試估算公司價值 - 股權會全部被買回 - 若是外界有估價 - 譬如天使投資或加速器投資會估價 - 若是公司尚未盈餘,會依照股權比例扣除花費,其他退還 - 若是三年後拿到 PR 退出,缺的部分怎麼算? - 拿 PR 之前要先還回時薪。缺的工時部分(比起 16 萬PR價值)理論上要賠上錢,或持續用 side project 的方式補上。 - https://www.legis-pedia.com/article/company-enterprise-organization/805 - AB股: - 不一定比較好。之後合夥人們再討論。 ------ 公司需要的支出 - 創立公司 - 在安大略省,線上或透過郵寄註冊公司的費用為 300 加幣。註冊公司名稱需額外支付 60 元的費用。(https://www.ownr.co/blog/incorporation-costs - 行銷 - 可能外包給加拿大公司、可能雇用加拿大的行銷人員或工讀生 - 電子報 - content create - 會是主要的公司支出 - 智慧財產權 - ? - 好像是幾百塊 - 伺服器維護 - 第一年的話一個服務約 15~20CAD/month。可能有五個服務(Supabase, Crashlytics, Gitlab, 網域) - 第三年每個月需要有 599 的 Supabase 服務 - 法務 - 基本的可能免費,孵化器會提供 - 我們需要額外的功能才會需要特別的法務 - 想不到要不付費的部分 - 稅務會計 - 孵化器應該會介紹,然後我們可能選擇這樣的服務來幫忙記帳和報稅 - 每個月三百塊 - bookkeeping (自己做?) - 銷售 - 可能找加拿大的學生做工讀生來宣傳 - - 使用者研究 - 可能給每一個受訪者一點錢 - 人事 - - 公關 -----

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