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19 June 2024 UTC 1:30

Lilith Hafner
Stefan Karpinski
Keno Fischer
Ian Butterworth
Oscar Smith

6 June 2024 UTC 13:30

Jakob Nissen
Lilith Hafner
Oscar Smith
Stefan Karpinski
Scott Jones
Jeff Bezanson

https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia/issues/54607
Lots of discussion about globals (including the world age proposal). This is a complidated mess of interacting semantics (primarily due to the complexity of the distinction between typed const and untyped globals)

https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia/pull/54002
long discussion summed up well by Jakob. This was mostly discussed last week, but it was a summary of consensus

https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia/pull/54653

We mostly deferred on this one until we have actual examples of where it is useful

https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia/pull/42080
we will merge this.

Discussion of milestone issues

22 May 2024 UTC 1:30

Jakob Peters
Lilith Hafner
Joey Carpinelli
Scott Jones
Jeff Bezanson
Oscar Smith

8 May 2024 UTC 13:30

…?

Scott Jones
Lilith Hafner
Nathan Zimmerberg (nhz2)
Oscar Smith
Jeff Bezanson
Timothy
Jameson Nash
Stefan

24 Apr 2024 UTC 1:30

Oscar
Lilith
Jeff
Stefan
Jakob Peters
Timothy
Scott Jones
Anshul Singhvi

10 Apr 2024 UTC 13:30

? It happened some folks poseted to GitHub, but Lilith wasn't there to take these notes

27 March 2024 UTC 1:30

Jar
Oscar
Scott
Lilith
Stefan
Jeff
Timothy

  • Reconsidering exporting the name wrap #53552 @jar (view/reshape)

Lighting round

  • Terminal width for jloptions help #53759 @gitboy16 (skipped)

More things

  • Forward progress (should infinite loops stop being UB?) #40009. Now with a PR #52999! @aviatesk (yes, without objections)
  • Adding rcond #44113 @Raye (didn't get to)
  • Redefining equality for Some #52421 @sukera (didn't get to)

Timothy

string(a, b) There's no way we could think of to keep perf in non-annotated case, preserve annotations consistently, and not drop all annotations. Maybe just drop annotations on string(a), too.

== on substrings is still an issue

Make REPL depend on JuliaSyntaxHighlighting and have JuliaSyntaxHighlighting pirate Expr display.

13 March 2024 UTC 13:30

No Quorum

28 Feb 2024 UTC 1:30

Lilith Hafner
Jeffry Sarnoff
Scott Jones
Jeff Bezanzon
Ian Butterworth
Oscar Smith

Tuple{Union{}} -> Union{} (It's the best [least breaking] we can get from Jameson)

BigFloat precision (it would be nice to preserve precision, maybe even give a )

https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia/pull/53377

https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia/issues/52314#issuecomment-1970275815

No consensus on https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia/pull/44113 but a brief chat.

Weak consensus on a "no" for https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia/pull/52654#issuecomment-1970308670

https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia/issues/40858#issuecomment-1970317596

14 Feb 2024 UTC 13:30

Scott Jones
Lilith Hafner
oscar smith
Timothy
gabrielbaraldi
Jeff Bezanson
pfitzseb
Stefan Karpiński
Caleb Allen
Lars Göttgens
Nils Gudat
Ian Butterworth
Jameson Nash

https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia/pull/51149 (—project=@temp)
https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia/pull/40989 (gcdx(0,0) = (0,0,0))
Styled strings
@assert/@check

31 Jan 2024 UTC 1:30

No quorum

17 Jan 2024 UTC 13:30

  • Do we want to define the methods NamedTuple(::RegexMatch) and Dict(::RegexMatch)? The conversions are not super performant, and the NamedTuple conversion is not type stable, but there are cases where they are convenient to have. @aplavin
  • Revisit sorting iterators (Issue, Implementation, New issue, Revert) The last decision we came to was to yank it from 1.10 to allow more time to deliberate. @LilithHafner, @KristofferC Do we want to
    1. Never support sort(itr) (current)
    2. Support a few specific iterators (proposed)
    3. Support all but a few specific iterators (reverted)
    4. Always support sort(itr)
  • Native bitshift #52828 it's faster but the semantics are more complicated and are also probably platform dependent. Do we want it, and if so what semantics and name should it have? @Jakob Nybo Nissen
  • Should ProductIterator support indexing, and with what semantics (specifically thinking a about component iterators which have non-integral indices (Dict) or support multiple indices (Matrix)) #49965 @Mason Protter
  • Should we Stop running finalizers on atexit? @kpamnany [if interested/knowledgeable folks are present at triage we should discuss this first, otherwise, only if we have time]

3 Jan 2024 UTC 1:30

Quickies

  • Shall we merge LogRange? @mcabbott
  • Is it okay for Tuple{Union{}} to error? (#52385) @aplavin
  • hasdoc / has_docstring / undocumented_names bikeshed @jariji
    • hasdoc or has_docstring?
    • Docs.undocumented_names or Aqua.undocumented_names or Test.undocumented_names?
    • [this discussion spireled into detailed implementation semantics which had good results but took a long time and had a narrow scope—ideally this discussion should have happened outside of triage]

[Did not get to:]

Discussion

For next time

  • Revisit sorting iterators (Issue, Implementation, New issue, Revert) The last decision we came to was to yank it from 1.10 to allow more time to deliberate. @LilithHafner, @KristofferC

21 Dec 2023 UTC 13:30

Lightning round

Discussion

Lightning round part two (if we get there)

7 Dec 2023 UTC 1:30

Discussion

  • How do we want to handle string formatting and annotated IO in the Julia ecosystem? #51807 and friends. @Timothy

Lightning round

Back to larger discussions

23 Nov 2023 UTC 13:30

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9 Nov 2023 UTC 1:30

1.10 Milestone

  • Revisit sorting iterables in light of #51977 @Lilith [indecisive]
  • Not in need of a decision, but seeking volunteers for
    • #51985 "typing "`\\" crashes the REPL immediately" @IanButterworth began a fix but stated "I'm going to have to pass the ball here." @vjtnash is also involved [not discussed]
    • #52024 "random segfault at exit when starting with threads" Reported by @jaakkor2, bisection by @ktdq [not discussed]

Lightning round (if we can't decide quickly, we'll punt to a later meeting)

  • delete for namedtuple issues/27574, pull/27725/files
    @jeffrey_sarnoff [yes]
  • const Iterators.first = Iterators.take? #45394 @non-Jedi (Adam B) [no]
  • Should we support inline export syntax export f(x) = x+1? #36474 @Dalum (Sari Sakse Dalum) [no]
  • Should we move Revise.jl to the JuliaLang org (or another org) [timholy/Revise.jl#768] (https://github.com/timholy/Revise.jl/issues/768) @timholy [yes]
  • Do we want to support map!(f, collection)? #40632 @mcabbott [yes, also delete map(f) and foreach(f)]

Discussion

  • How do we want to handle string formatting and annotated IO in the Julia ecosystem? #51807 and friends. @Timothy [not discussed]

Attendance: Lilith, Jeff, Frames, Oscar, Timothy, and Jeffrey

26 Oct 2023 UTC 6:15

  • Moving the triage time
  • Adding warnings to all mutating functions that can't handle arbitrarily aliased inputs #50824
  • Beginning a conversation about annotated strings #51807
  • Making the repl depend on StyledStrings.jl #51869
  • Rename the default branch from Main to Master #40316
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