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# 2023-11-29 NumPy triage meeting

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**Present**:

## Follow up from previous meetings

- Rewiring integers:
- Could make the DTypes subclasses (`LongLongDType(Int64DType)`)
- Special instances would be similar, but maybe harder because you can't mirror that in the scalars?
- Sebastian will open an issue so we can prioritize this.

- Take a look at the milestones for 2.0 https://github.com/orgs/numpy/projects/9

- Make the dtype API public (remove the "experimental" label) for 2.0

- Zoom meeting access changed a bit.

- Array API for NumPy PRs need reviewing (9 PRs)

- Specific question w.r.t. to the array api PRs:
- Array API has vecdot, which behaves quite different (no conj, and our one ravels). (Actually, both do conj).
- Let's just stick with `np.True_` for now as repr.
- asarray copy kwarg (Sebastians take mostly):
- True/None/False should be OK? We never deprecated this, which might be a problem (hopefully not?!).
- It would be good to search for `np.array(..., copy=False)` briefly. In most cases, it is probably unaffected, but could mutate siglthly.
- the `__array__` dunder needs reviewing, because it might return a copy or a view (not sure this is accounted for). For the buffer protocol, that is possible, but I think assuming a view is OK.

- After bumping NPY_MAXDIMS, we may want to review some static arrays, should we:
- Try to use normal allocations (with the cache)
- Use `alloca()` (i.e. in ufuncs which never have absurd number of arguments for the time being)?
- ...?

- gh-25152, can we find a way to allow "default" arguments in ufuncs (support `None` to be special for an argument).

- Discuss gh-25009 (stop supporting `promotion_state` other than NEP 50).

## New topics

## Action items

## Backlog

* [PRs and issues labelled with "triage review"](https://github.com/numpy/numpy/labels/triage%20review) (please add)
* [Open PRs - ](https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pulls) let's maintain below 150
* [Open PRs from first-time contributors](https://github.com/orgs/numpy/projects/5)
* [Inactive PRs](https://github.com/orgs/numpy/projects/6)

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