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Five years on the Rust core team: a retrospective - Steve Klabnik

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What is Rust

to build reliable and effucuent software

2010: Rust began
2015: Rust version 1.0
2018: Working groups
2019: We are here!

Steve Klabnik have 7 years write Rust experience

Rust Language Blog

Rust and Rust Governance

who makes decision?

2010 <=> informal

As projects grow => who make decision? (because some Enterprise like facebook start to use it)

Problem

  • Consistency
    • 2 solutions
      • BDFL
      • Core Team

BDFL "Benevolent Dictator For Life"

  • Pros
    • Consistent: Only one person!
    • Simeple: Only one pertson!
  • Cons
    • What happens if the BDFL quits?
    • What happens if they're not benevolent?

Core Team

  • Pros
    • group agree
    • people can be added or removed
  • Cons
    • Not simple: now multiple people have to agree
    • Not easy: what if we disagree on something important?

Rust: Core Team

____: "I don't want to be the BDFL."
No oppunity to go BDFL: the origional guy quits.

Core Team

Problem: Core Team don't scales. Too many decidions to make.

Solution: Add even more teams.

Sub teams:

  • Language design
  • Libaries
  • Compiler
  • …

Core Team: Make sure the groups do their work.

Problems: Inflexible, and not every team wants RFCs.

Solution: Even more teams + Working Groups

Working Groups: sort of like teams but not have the power to make desicions.

Over 100 people have the to decide the way how Rust goes.

240 Comments on one RFC of renaming int/uint

"No new rationals" rule: only make decisions that has been debated in public.

"A final proposal for await syntax" becomes a better decition making process then the int/uint problem

Say what you want to do first

Problem: Comments are like DDoS attack. Just one person writes the RFC, but have to reply to all the problems.

有能力設計好好語言 和有時間回覆大量留言 的是不同種人

Do We Need a "Rust Foundation"?

Huge distraciton. Become nesty.

Leadership im more places

Currently leadership is mostly based in the US and Europe. Not so global.

Welcomeing.

But harder to schedule meetings.

QA

Q: How do you decide how to accept members?

Every team can decide the way they accepts new members.

e.g.: Core Team: If everyone agrees, you can join.

–

Q: Who is responsible to do things like, merge PRs?

There're many repos.

…

There is a bot. No one have actual control to merge code. The bot will confirmation the tasts passes, …etc. and merge the code.

"I want it to be exists, but I don't want to do the process"

雞生蛋蛋生雞：沒有錢無法成立基金會、沒有基金會無法收錢
夢想：大企業直接拿一筆錢請他們成立基金會

小問題：Rust 的商標在 Mozilla 手上
還沒跟 Mozilla 問（？

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