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# SHIP v SHIP IDEA GUY DOC

DO YOU LIKE SPACE GAMES WITH SHIPS IN THEM. I HAVE NOT PLAYED EVERY SPACE GAME IN EXISTENCE SO IF YOU HAVE **COOL SHIT** THAT YOU LIKE FROM THEM AND IS COOL (YOU DO NOT HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT BEYOND IT BEING COOL I WILL DO THE THINKING) THEN PUT IT HERE AND I WILL CONSIDER IT FOR SHIP v SHIP

ITS FOR IDEAS STOP SAYING "OH BUT BALANCE" SHUT UP!!!!!!!! JUST PUT COOL FUCKING BADASS SHIT AND WE'LL BALANCE IT LATER

- shields -> heatsinks affect ship temperature
    - Alternatively a flux system which disables the ship if a threshold is reached. Flux dissipates when shield down.[Take a look at starsector](https://starsector.fandom.com/wiki/Flux)
- belt fed ship guns with conveyors
- random singularity spawns in space
- tractor beams
    - Alternatively just grappling guns for ships
- attachment point that can attach to anything (like a universal docking airlock) for boarding parties
- Grid collision damage?
- point defense
- sandcasters to repel lasers (as a way to counteract lasers)
- boarding using the Advanced Grabbing Unit from KSP or grappling guns
- emergency escape pods
- missile lock on requires you to hold your cursor over a grid for 5 seconds
- lt and ht weapons
- - lt is low tech aka more traditional fighting (fuckin armors and guns)
- - ht is high tech aka more sci-fi fighting (lasers beams and shields and shit)
- - - lt should focus more on "more armor/more ballistic"
- - - ht should focus more on "more shield/more laser/beam/scifi bullshittery" and be expensive power wise
- Meteor spawns?
- Salvage teams! Fly a little tug out to a defeated enemy ship, bring it back to base, put in big salvage bay where it's automatically reclaimed for money.
- Systems Officer on larger ships: Manages stuff the pilot is too busy to do. Diverts power to shields/guns/engines etc, based off of pings from pilot, who might not have time to type. SO would also command the engineering/security team to keep the ship running.
- Barotrauma guns
- cosmoteer weapons (see attached iamge)
![](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/SJEjyavT3.png)
- autopilot (list of ships you can select one out of and buttons next to list telling it what to do?)
- - ability to maintain velocity with another vessel for docking/boarding
- - ability to pursue another vessel
- - ability to maintain location relative to orientation of other ship (for docking)
- - autodock (just skip all this shit and do it for us) (probably actually implementable if the above also exists)
- TACOM, the faction leader has like an operations center where they can see all their ships and enemy ships within sensor range
- - Can send messages to their ships: "Blue Two, you're going to be overrun!"
- - "Scanners just lit up like a christmas tree!"
- - Can hear the screams of the dying: "We're being overrun, send backup! AAAaaaaaaGGH"
- Self destruct sequence as a cool way to suicide(potentially have it do damage to other ships if close enough?)
    - Could also be for special ships
    - self destructing ships are so fucking badass. infact, we need a system for 2 keys to be twisted at the same time for a self destruct to be initiated
    - NT live after receiving news that 2 bored heads destroyed their largest capital vehicle on the frontier
    - ![](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/H1LmQpP63.png)
        - Only the third largest loss this cycle

- gpt-4-generated ships
- long-range missiles weak to PD
- shipmounted bang ded gun for admemes (singularity cannon? immovable rod machine gun?)
- Clown ship mounted gun (has clumsy trait)
- Gun ship mounted gun that shoots guns
- Glue ship mounted gun
- [Shit ship mounted gun based around this gun](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USFA_ZiP_.22)
- Mosin ship mounted gun
- Ship mounted melee?
- Fucking uhh man guns, you get into a gun and are shot as a projectile
- - have plasmafire-based atmos spacewind cannons prebuilt on some ships
- - - yes blease
- - - maxcap launcher real;
- - Reminds me of sea of thieves
- Ship mounted ship????
- All ships need a chess board and at least one bard. This is mandatory.
- - self-destruct (nuke?) timer automatically starts if a bard is not onboard
- - Agree with that.
- - parchis board too
- Ship powered by the power of friendship
- friendship powered by the power of ship
- friend powered by the power of shipship
- ai NPCs you can tell things to do for peak rts gameplay
- Have you write down graphs to precisely fire things at people like in graph war.
- Random crits (stolen from beridot)
- 
- [delivery cannon](https://spaceexploration.miraheze.org/wiki/Delivery_cannon): shoots raw materials to a destination (which may or may not be a special reciever)
- Engineers at base can teleport bombs to beacons: Board enemy ship, place bomb beacon, request bomb delivery to X beacon. Stationside engineer mails the enemy an armed bomb.
- we need TCAS yelling "TRAFFIC TRAFFIC TRAFFIC" at us every minute. some cool voicelines like 'HULL INTEGRITY: 50%' or 'FLUX AT: 50%'
- better stealth. kinda ass to just disappear from IFF infinitely. perhaps it consumes power and requires shit? etc etc
- - limited range for mass scanners and navs
- - jammers that decrease the range you're detected at, upgradeable, stackable, less effect for larger ships
- hacking ships
- - you can temporarily take control of a ship? idk how this would work, realistically it would only affect piloting
- - already in the game, called screwdriver+crowbar
- - - ranged attacks smartass, mainly it would be used to divert large swarms of ships to fuck off so that you can buy time/etcetc
- - - - too 
also stfu about balancing this is an ideaguy thread. cool shit goes here, we'll balance later
- - - - then make it either RNG or skill based, it's not hard to counteract "too string"
- - by default, have everything consoles be access locked until reconstructed
- i know no balance bs but every weapon should have a good counterattack like lasers have sandcasters and missiles have PD, etc etc
- - melee balancing is "don't get into range"
- - melee doesnt matter here we're in fucking space!!!!1! i LOVE spac!!1!e!!!!!
- - - bring an axe to a spaceship fight and win
- - - - how to deal with fighters (as a boarder specialized vessel)
- vessel specifications
- - some shit like Fighter/Freighter/Cruiser/Boarder/Pod/capital/etc etc take a look at starsector
- boost thruster
- ore asteroids
- harvest asteroids for gases
- Fully Unique Cannon word starting with K (F.U.C.K)
- - ok
- shipmounted shotgun (for when you want the ship in front of you to not exist anymore)
- aren't we just making FS14 2
- Terraria modifiers (Godly, broken, ect.)
- Super Surplus Cannon (shoots uplink shit)
- Pepper spray cannon.
- - average troll idea
- - too strong
- - - [1\] thistbh

- - - 1984
- flak ftl
- radiation beam (no damage to ship, yes damage to crew)
- - crazy. Crazy? I-
- Curse of RA ship mounted gun
- - average troll idea
- Chainsaw cannon (shoots chainsaws)
- - average troll idea 
- oh my god stop saying that
- - average troll idea
- - - average troll comment
- - - - average troll reply
- 
- gravbeam (flings things around inside of enemy ship by making random gravity wells)
- - funny as fuck lets throw trash at enemy ships
- - fling pets
- spacemines (cosmoteer mines?)
- FTD-style modular weapons
- - faster than death
- shipmounted loudspeaker
- giant grappling hook

## shit of inspiration idk take a look at this
let me just dump games that we can steal shit frm

- cosmoteer (for guns/shields/armor) cosmoteer would work fairly well if we implement it for ss14, as it uses a similar grid system
![](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/r1Drx6Pa3.png)
- space engineers (custom made ships)
- traveller rpg (large naval combat)
- heat signature (boarding)
- starsector (also for guns/shields/armor)
- rimworld's SOS2 mod
- factorio space exploration mod lmao
- ftl (ftl is ass for combat like this imo)
- orbitfight (self promo)
- sea of thieves (It's a pirate game)
- from the depths (mainly a ship building game but has modular weapons)

COOL SHOWS:
- the expanse
- firefly
- star trek
- Babylon 5(Star trek DS9 but better) 
    - Me when I declare independence from NT because they bombed a random planet and literally became 1984
    - NT after another planet goes rogue: cereal.png
- desperacy: star wars 
- orville (star trek but comedy show) ((yes we need this shit))

CONTINUE THE SHITFUCK OF IDEAS 
- interdiction charges for warps
- projectile interceptor bullets/missiles from ftl(defence drones)
- send borgs to dismantle stuff and murder everyone
- fax machines for every shuttle
- LANCER BAD ASS MECHS BAD ASS MECHS I LOVE MECHS WE NEED COOL DEATH MECHS
- AI ships
- - only lawless (?) borgs as crew
- - weird
- - funky
- - i like but unmanned ships are weird
- - i like shooting ships and then seeing the corpses fly out it's just not the same
- - - you will see borg corpses fly out

- an arena ftl point for 1v1
- - funky imo i like allshitbrokelooseohfuckthatsacapitalRAMMINGTOWARDME combat
- - - starsector
- - - lmfao
- - - average lowtech player when any capital (i paid for the whole armor, i'm going to use the whole armor)
- - just personal opinion ignore it
- meteor and solar flare events
- Cloaking & Phasing fields for ships. (Hide from radar/invisibility/phase through objects (turn off snap-to-grid while phased?)
- Boarding pods
- Grid-Grid collisions
- Halberd Beam
- Ship scale Melee weapons


## ooc notes (we b.allin)

you all have good taste in space combat

elykmq,
pro


look one by one the pages remind me

Anyways that's it for our maintainer meeting like and subscribe (or whatever they say at the end of these)
maint meeting (in maints

Merge my fucking PRs.
you first
It appears we're at a standoff.
rejected+lore reason+erp fork maintainer+L+ratio+this wouldn't fit into the game
bro really pulled out
look at the votes on my PR ![](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/rkbKwTPa3.png)
lmfao
alright smart guy, I'm about to pull out my votes
smh i have 1000 votes on my pr this is rookie numbers
wait guys we can't be maintainers we play the game
maintainers never play ss14

this is rain by the way sya hi


the concept of rain itself speaking (real)

yes real

![](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/SkL0DpvTh.png)
MY VOTES

OH EMM GEE ALL
HAIL ALL HAIL @bows @
nods @
apologizes @bows
ratio

what drugs y'all be smoking bruh

if oxygen is a drug I'm smoking nicotine

hard crack






Rain when I mention balance existing: 
[I don't know how to fucking do it](https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-five-nights-at-freddys-freddy-jumpscare-power-outage-gif-22100208)
- \<rant\>
- honestly this is a place for you to dump ideas for space conbambat here from and the argument that "it's too strong" is absolute bullshit considering it adds nothing at all (how is it too strong???) so at least bring proper criticism to the table that isn't just "too strong". also, again, ideaguy thread, not a balanceguy thread. think like an ideaguy not a balanceguy
- \</rant\>
- but balance.
- Okay I'll think like an ideaguy, let's add 50 nukes on the station
- would be badass for lategame tech to involve nukes, see how Cosmoteer does it with uranium
- nuclear missile real
- legalize nuclear bombs
- i know how balance (orbitfight is very balanced)

Add librarian antag items

for space combat smartass

merge chef antag pr

:cl: rain
remove: I removed all the balance so fuck you all hahahahahahhahaha

:cl: PixelTK
add: Added fun!
remove: Removed fun!

:cl: ideatide
remove: Arachnids. [[18290]](https://github.com/space-wizards/space-station-14/pull/18290)
- arachnid removal PR merged, we won, it's joever

fix: humans can now dab. This gibs them.
add: Upstreamed Combat Rim 14.
fix: Barratry is now a regular station.
tweak: Lizards are no longer lizard-people, but the kind of lizard you can buy in cargo.
add: PIXEL FM IS HERE! LISTEN TO (low) QUALITY SONGS FROM ALL OVER SPACE!
add: Free wifi everywhere you go
removed: Maintainers.


# this is true ideatism

:cl: Ilya246
remove: Removed fun!

## put prs you want merged here
[Delete arachid](https://github.com/space-wizards/space-station-14/pull/18290)
[Projectile + Damage events](https://github.com/space-wizards/space-station-14/pull/19322)
[Sericulture fixes](https://github.com/space-wizards/space-station-14/pull/19193)
[Chef rework](https://github.com/space-wizards/space-station-14/pull/9832)
[Fox species](https://github.com/space-wizards/space-station-14/pull/14976)
[Surgery](https://github.com/space-wizards/space-station-14/pull/3939)
[EasyPry doors](https://github.com/space-wizards/space-station-14/pull/19394)
![](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/r1MTvlda2.png)


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it's joever
it's the bidening
it's barratry ss14
- holy shit iron lung

- iron ling med maint
biden your horizons
horizon mindustry
- average troll idea