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# DAOcember Salons

## Schedule

### #1 Genesis Moloch: The root of all _evil_ aka coordination failure
_Tues Dec 6, 3p est_

If the current state is mass discoordination, how did it become so? Is it a dominant strategy naturally ordained to emerge? What examples of discoordination in nature? Why is it so hard to solve for human coordination? What do we do about it? Can hyperstructures save us?

Primer:
At the root of this question is the suggestion that failures to coordinate are rooted within a moral philosophy of good/evil dichotomies. On one hand, this risks becoming too abstract of a meditation to be useful for informing our behaviors, as it encapsulates the entirity of the development of human civilization. However, we might focus on a simple premise: coordination is good and some kind of idealized coordination is possible. This "goodness" has become a kind of secular moral code that we evangelize amongst ourselves. As good moralists, good technophiles, good rational actors in coordination games, we have a responsibility to (vg:surface the first principles and) articulate the face of this evil we are attempting to leverage against. This is equivalent to putting a face on Moloch as the personification of miscoordination, of our most self-interested, self-serving, and self-abnegating shadows of human nature. The other side of the coin here is a utilitarian and pragmatic issue: the question of how we might maintain hope in the face of evil. How do we practice optimistic coordination in the shadow of doomerism and cynicism? What is the goodness that we are striving to coordinate towards? Achieving this triumph over evil begins with making it explicit and how we orient ourselves to this moral divide.


speakers:
- owocki
- dreamer
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### #2 Transitional Moloch: The State of Change
_Wed Dec 7, 3p est_

Web3 hasn't figured out how to integrate with centralized/trad systems without being subsumed by them. Alas, this dynamic feels more desperate than ever. How will we coordinate ourselves in relation to existing structures?

Primer:
In this pivotal transitional moment in the DAO space, we are concerned with identifying the failures alongside the successes of how DAO protocols integrate with centralized and traditional systems. For sake of this conversation, we might consider the existing centralized monolithic economic systems, points of taxation, legal liability exposure, corporate personhood of decentralized organizations (and their autonomous workers), and the increasing importance of regulations and oversight to protect from economic and cultural capture. We might consider the recent SBF/FTX clown car pile ups, but we're also talking about our orientation in potentially destabilizing or disrupting traditional systems. Do you observe a tension within our DAO community between integration strategies and those that might consider disruption to be the ideal? Might this be considered an internal coordination failure to align behind a common goal? What would an ideal integration consist of, in your opinion? How do we envision this transition to play out? Certainly the nature of this transition might be considered on the personal, individual level as well as the need to scale these integrations to the organizational or nation state scale. 

speakers:
- victor rortvedt
- chase chapman
- aaron soskin


### #3 Speculative Moloch: Post-Moloch Society
_Thurs Dec 8, 3p est_

In a thousand years, if there's history ...
What will we remember?
Moloch is slain, or at least at bay. What does life look and feel like in this speculative Moloch-less land? Or has Moloch merely learned new methods of discoordination? 

Primer:
What does it mean to solve the majority of the world's coordination problems? Does this amount to solving some "metacrisis" or developing coordination game cheat codes? Do we feel equipped to be able to contemplate that world considering the disasters and horrors of this contemporary moment? I would propose that we must clarify that vision of tomorrow, now, so that we know what we're coordinating for, but this doesn't necesarily require that we agree on the same description of this utopian or dystopian tomorrow. There's two sides that we might consider for the sake of our conversation. One: what is the technological stack that facillitates the successful coordination of that tomorrow world? How do we define the physical and conceptual framework and how might it be different from what we are building and cultivating now? The second part of this question: what does it really mean to slay Moloch? Can we ever truly be rid of Moloch if it is somehow intrinsic to our human nature?

speakers:
- dekanbro
- christina
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## Format

intro to speakers (all)
intro to salons/theme (vg)
initial prompt/primer (tw)


## Salonnières

VG
TW


