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# MF Community Meeting 11/11/21

## In Attendance 
- Drew H
- Luke Gniwecki
- DamagedGOods
- Penguin
- Arashi
- Zico
- NiftyFifty
- Paul Wackerow
- Fireflies ai Notetaker Aaron
- Sky M
- Jin
- Gio
- ben fine
- wes clay
- yalor tackson
- santteegt
- magnus lai
- penguin
- rj
- sinkas
- magnus lai
- bacon
- afro vikin
- wero



## Verbal Discussion
- (drew) kickoff with luke intro -- works with boson protocol who we are working with to do custom drop
    - releasing portal in DCL which is first sales op to explore platform and protocol
- (luke) thank you, excited to be here. head of product at boson. boson decentralizing commerce. building protocol for buyers and sellers to using NFTs in decentralized manner
- (luke) last 9 months working on MVP applications to demo how boson protocl works -- metaverse commerce experience. 
- (luke) excited to show a sneak peak of the portal. have been doing this before facebook
- luke - launch party in london the 19th. very excited to work with MF and create custom drop. already have cool wearable in DCL based on hoodie MF working on 
- drew - are you interested to share this on call?
- luke - yes will screen share
- luke (shares screen) will be live next thursday. some live already. showing us DCL land for portal 
    - how do we demonstrate how boson works? want to create wonderland experience - metaverse commerce - much more than just shopping
    - we have games and quests, play a cute game, earn chance to win bosons. announcement next week
    - entrance to portal. still being finalized, testing graphics and visuals
    - number of slices in DCL. this huge land built in june. put some unique experiences for ppl in metaverse. jump btwn different worlds, see our space, shop and buy using boson
    - digital to physial redemption of NFTs. buy NFT, then exchange for physical product
    - "the cube game" takes you inside, 5 mins to complete trial 
    - metafactory branded commerce exp in collab with boson protocol 
    - each exp has its own slide, login and see user stats
    - *moves into metafactory space*
    - another digifashion partner also launching as metafactory x boson
    - used what drew provided in creating this space
    - go to top to play the quest
    - most important thing is selling physical things in digital world
    - sizes to buy the hoodie -- can also go and buy wearabe
    - wearable is digital rep of physical hoodie -- back to question about prices. 
    - when you get to space it says complete quest to buy lower price item. must perform action. higher price will be significantly higher without doing quest
    - get item lower price by completing quest
    - *shows quest and what exp looks like*
    - used MF branding elements 
    - very simple jumping quest which takes people on a journey, must jump around the platform to complete the quest. simple arcade type platform type quest. must get to the top to unlock lower price
    - takes about 2.5 mins to complete, can try multiple times
    - once complete and you get to the top, then you can purchase item at a lower price
    - *shows us what purchasing looks like* -- still final tests. basically following our protocol, automated exchange mechanism for buyer and seller. in this case seller is us but it can be any seller in decentralized marketplace
    - can use boson protocol to sell item directly in the metaverse
    - way it works is there is two sided deposit scheme where in order to list item, seller must deposit into boson escrow, buyer must deposit as well + selling price. using those deposits buyer and seller enter sequential gain which ensures exchange goes correctly. deposits can be used to balance out if things go wrong. remove centralized intermediary 
    - authenticate transaction in DCL, still testing 
    - transaction processed in meta mask then taken to tool boson portal, authenticate with wallet, accept terms, then view items 
    - proceed to claim item, go to website showing description and creators -- this is where boson protocol comes into play
    - claim item that takes you to delivery info, fill details, then final claim summary, sign final transaction which is claim transaction that you want to receive item
    - once completed claim come back to website, check status, contact seller or team to find out info
- drew - very cool. appreciate the thorough walkthru
- luke - setting some bounties now. you are one of our first parnters. will be working with more brands. working with international sneaker brands. web3 people first for launch, bring more. anyone have questions?
- drew - anyone?
- stevo - sold, i want to buy hoodie for .3 dai
- damaged goods - like shipper ferry
- drew - really appreciate it. cool collab because these are things we want to service and explore. we'd rather partner with people who are pushing forward on commerce and game theory levels, take a modular approach, excited to see how market responds to this and how we are able to use these tools to create more decentralized commerce, peer to peer opportunities
- luke - another thing is that if you see this on display, you only go and create and list that item once, all the different places will have that same listing. another fascinating thing we do at boson ... boson commitment NFT, also sell NFT to someone else and not necessarily redeem that physical item. dont need physical item today, you can sell to someone else. just one of mechanics that is possible
- drew - very cool. next week, this will be kicked off. boson big push amplyfing in our socials and across our networks. custom jacket produced by us ground up, wes leading product design. commerce exp is new approach for us will inform more of our virtual exp approach 
- luke - just one more thing. encourage everyone to sign up to our event on boson forum. go to boson portal dot io. sign up for the event. that cube game will have amazing prizes, anyone can win. ty for inviting me
- drew - on the virtual topic while we are circling this, jin i know you were rallying troops -- putting together metaverse mixer or mf based thing... hopping to dcl call. jin plz update
    - jin - basically we have a vr event squad. MF throws physical events, now virtual events to. we have vr squad channel. first one is one day holiday party with filecoin. they are buying headsets. my contact liked it. sending it up to her higher ups, they are planning to buy everyone headsets and jam out in vr for a day. it could grow into more of a thing. a lot of cool virtual event spaces
    - drew - quite a hardware investment. thats cool, what are requirements 
    - jin - all vr newbies, last year i did this, to manage chaos, love vrchat but hard to wrangle everyone there. most beginner friendly is alt space. once they get their bearings in alt space some people level up. more of like an ambient thing, chill music, vibes, provide chaparones, poap swag, merch later. just show them good time in VR 
    - drew - cool, are we -- have you put anything  up on forum or is it early
    - jin - a bit early, i'll do forum post on it and i'll keep you posted in channel as well
    - drew - hopefully this becomes first exploration of what becoes a larger initiative around virtual events and education and that side of the brand we are building
- drew - another quick one on forum side ... put up a post around collab land and their nft sale drop going on. possibly getting one of their genesis NFTs ... crypto accord had great idea. obviously we can do that. best way we can support them is by doing merch drop to earn them robot. i reached out to collab land team, they are excited about that possibility. talking tmrw about collab land drop. forego any direct drop it to MF, just send as much robot to collab land for support they gave our community
    - yalor - can i push for someone to make the merch sexier than NFTs please?
    - drew - sure, design of NFT on merch
    - yalor - that is exactly what i don't want
    - steve - that nft on bankless hat 
- drew - we had internal core call. this was prompted by reflecting on everything we heard from feedback at nft nyc and how people are discovering thinking about and wondering what we are 
- drew - i feel like we've done a lot of work, focused head down pushing to get us to where we are. to help ppl understand this approach. as a result, got caught up in chasing. now i think people understand who we are and what we are doing
- drew - reached a point, esp core team, take a step back and reflect on what's worikng and what's not. really think about the vision for the future of MF 
    - inspired by recent drop with one of partners. a little sub optimal from product quality and output. somewhat expected. try to to our best with quality control and trusting our partners. this slipped thru the cracks. its a challenge generally talking abobut us as a dao, how we structure, and our partners who live in legacy side of things. web2 vendors we're just passing orders to that dont have same incentives or alignments of us as a dao
    - part of this solved and or we are pushing forward to improve by bringing in things -- embroidery, physical locations, we think that this is an option. in house production or trying to ID partners that will understand vision better vs. purely seeing this as transactional relationship. 
    - this is also stemming to the core of what a dao is. the idea of collective ownership and alignment as a result. everyone on the virtual and physical all aligned in same way, this creates pride making sure qc is up
    - def as a result of this, we are going to slow down on drops in terms of satisfying core partners, but taking some time not to bring in new inbound which has been crazy at the moment. juggling so many things trying our best to satisfy everyone's requests and needs. that is distracting us from reflecting, post mortem, general internal reflection on what's working and isn't and where we wanna go
    - specifically we had interesting ideas in line with owning physical production and actually having factories or maker spaces. what if we as a dao instead of creating a factory or microfactory -- yes that, but open it up to everyone. create it as a makerspace. allow ppl to come in, purchase memberships, use our equipment (fashion focused) -- this could introduce new product suite (3d printers) ... trinkets, art pieces. allows new artists and creators to come in. put up computers, vr headsets. really have entire metaverse virtual digital components
    - we can operate core business and satisfy all the production need that we have for others. this is an emerging idea but we are excited for this next step and what fits in with our business. open up surface area and focus on education side and open community builder -- really speaks to original vision and ethos of MF
    - i wanted to share this, still early, big work session in a couple of weeks around what is this -- probably on a community call. here is what core came up with, what resonates?
    - next week we are goign to drop general form that's like a "how do you feel about MF what's your experiences, what do you like and not like" -- reach out to entire community
    - let some of that data influence and dictate where we go. also consider if we are on track with out community in terms of where we think we should push this
    - for everyone who sees that please give us your input. this will probably be in next ops dist. ppl rewarded for giving feedback, free robot
    - keen to get ppl's general sentiment on some of this stuff now or if you think these ideas about bringing production in house, how does it resonate with you?
    - zico - i would love to see that. a distributed factory type of thing where ppl might have equipment can come in and plug in rather than us going out to find ppl who can produce. if ppl already have equipment -- more facilitating and coordinating. 
    - zico - if ppl willing to come in and plug in and are on board with web3 and MF, that could work perfectly
    - drew - ideally yes, ID someone with equipment and knowledge and understanding and talent and sees the vision and is willing to create more of a partnership, less of a transactional relationship
    - drew - easier said than done, fairly hard to ID right partner. not impossible. opportunity in assiting schools, fashion or trade schools. 
    - drew - the way we can have most control and ensure we have alignment -- MF invests in it directly, DAO owns it, you got robot? come in, use it, prop up education side, allow people to earn and learn. use internally but also provide time for ppl to do their own projects
    - steve - berlin focal point with wes. i think next would be new york, damaged good networks. possibly for some stuff in the states, denver has become crypto web3 hotbed. friends at IRLR -- already alignment out there. we have holy trinity of places
    - zico - LA?
    - drew - LA good esp cause fashion district. that is being dissolved. its legacy side of space. people are hurting, supply chains, indpendent smaller botiques struggling. whats cool about berlin is we have boots on ground, evaluating locations. berlin also the original hackerspace and makerspace location. kind of a fitting first offering. NY followed closely after
    - goods - 20 years later denver
    - zico - if still fashion industry maybe it makes sense to send someone out there to see reception of web3, if they are down -- i'm in bay area, not far for me. social good trying to help
    - drew - some aspect we need to recognize that not everyone will get it or want this. leaning into and supporting those who do the same -- upscaling younger creatives struggling to find opportunity. they have talent or motivation but hard to break in, not being properly compensated 
    - goods - i had fashion in LA, broke me
    - drew - one of our primary production partners in LA. they match our on demand chaotic nature very well. RJ to your question in chat
    - steve - love collab opening up. a lot of magic happens. ncom, nft nyc, let alone having a place creatively aligned there. fundamentally the in house thing is so that we have full qc, work with partners, expand those
    - drew - really like a crazy trumped up co working space too. if you are a robot, just come in. use it as co working space. vibe with others, use our equipment or not
    - steve - get some bunk beds up in there, hostel, cameras
    - drew - whoah we just went from accomodation to cam show. 
    - steve - reality tv not ded
    - drew - DAO's amazing to reshape education space. its being reshaped regarldess of DAOs but dao's can provide very intersting things for what was apprenticeships antrade school
    - zico - figure out how to do faciiltation, basically matchmaking. term to keep in mind when creating network like this. aka coordination. i like matchmaking. i understand coordination but most dont. 
    - drew - a couple vision of curation game can remove us as authority or gatekeeper. we are trying to do that now manually and we are recognizing its easier said than done. going wide on vendors and providers is not encessarily the right solution. 
    - drew - questions on fit and fabric use. all of this can be automated or provide scale in curation game. every kind of player has their own card. you can be designer, project, tech, come in and choose designer you want or tech you are interested in. create squd, use templates we provide. scaled sense to propose -- this is drop, hoodie, blank, design. let community decide and vote on what we producce next
    - drew - what if we allowed the partners to bid on production run space. each drop can get up to 200, who do we do it for. community curate there. if community all wants another sushi, do another sushi. we as MF focus on production and fullfillment while community curates. streamline and step back from managing and pm'ing of these things
    - zico - i really like the idea if community were taking it into their own hands and MF is in backgrounds. artists from different mediums -- illustraor fan of band, they will probably make artwork for them. if just commission, that kind of goes back to matchmaking thing. this is something i've been thinking about for years. 
    - drew - tossing a lot of things out in terms of what can fit. just seeing what resonates. re focus down -- curious to get people's opinions of subset -- what if we as MF instead of going wide, were to say -- we have identified core garment makers. we're gonna introduce one or two hoodie blanks, tshirt blanks ... only produce from these cuts and fabric from here on out. reduction on range of offerings. more focus on quality and consistency. interested in that approach over a say, more wide and ranged offering?
    - wes - when you are looking at sourcing, producers, pattern makers -- so much innovation at each level. this goes back to focus on what we arleady built. MF very powerful platform, to find people who are aligned with incentives and finding that with material provider and having that all worked in -- that doesnt seem limitation, seems like rich possibility 
    - wes - what happens on alignment of creative fun. something that happens on even local shops -- come to them with creative idea, but they have timed their process so tightly to make margins, they dont want to push outside of what they do. embroider in ccertain area with certain thread. having more makerspace approach offers to creative range of things we make, also emotional connection to them... ppl with no exp will make a choice, that -- it adds in something that we didnt even know was missing. that space to kind of play around with the tools a bit more
    - drew - i think it actually would open up more experimentation, unlock more imagination in a way that is focused in tangible. people can toss out ideas, think about what they want to do. even myself -- choice for fabric limits what you can do, how to print it, what options are. choice of various things in chain of producing item -- there's trade offs. a lot of ppl dont recognize that esp from retail consumer perspective. being able to show people and let them play with things and demo -- its like uhh, frees imagination but also tempers it against realities against these types of choices
    - wes - at risk of tangent. really interesting trend in visual space. artist with access to any pallet, tooling, resolution... they come back to pixel art. clarity in creative parametering that allows you to express something to more media, more people, era's, collective memories that pop out -- at the same time, if you look at a pexl art and something woven, its actually the easiest image to translate into textile. all these new bridges. limiting is not confinement -- as long as we can go thru every step the creative process requires... we will find the limitation is going to generate a lot of connection in ways we could not have prediced

- drew - i think we are going to put a lot of focus into putting a document together of where've we been, where we are now, where we are going document. that we can continue to carry forward. living document. adjust it as we confront new realities 
- drew - close to top of hour. anyone have any final thoughts?
    - zico - wanted to mention this book impact networks. i just posted some links in the content channel. the links to this ... the website for book has a lot of resources. the one is a network participant survey. this might be something drew you can use for community survey
    - jay skeletor - second impact network books. the way they frame the connections and looking at the deeper impacts of connection networks is something worth incorporating or building into MF
    - drew - we can def us that survey as a basis. stevo first stab at that. circle 
    - drew - allow ppl to prototype our own goods or something we sell in our store. metafactory makers box subscription. i think we could do something cool that highlights cool and amazing artists at sub level. talk to or demonstrate inner linkings of these partnerships 
    - drew - maybe half of that is digital. both physical and digital. jin has some really cool ideas. around the VR hackerspace and having a metaverse and virtual version
    - stevo - fast and loose. has been no time to step back and work on stuff. who wants to get involved in content stuff? all that stuff -- we hit the million dollar sales milestone, we didn't even blink. not even pizza party. its just so fast. all sorts of stuff getting lost in shuffle. finding ways to capture that better as well give kind of like -- trying to find tools and things that have a window pane into the factory. we dont have the most traditional way to get inovlved in DAO because of back end. we need to find better ways so people can really see what's going on
    - drew - physical good production focused enterprise. we logistically cant move as fast as digital only. we are in this weird physical digital cross over.
    - stevo - apestetics good example. adapting to those people. making custom cut and sewn physical products on global level wont move as fast as mutant apes. working on tooling. leverage to work on templates, things ppl can use. 
    - stevo - working groups, living breathing work spaces. screen shot guides of things great for ppl coming in and trying to help out
    - stevo - even on a metamap documenting all of our drops and stuff, kind of a metamap work in conjunction with mirror and concept pieces where we have bulletin board of events. factory, drops, collages, highlights, footage events links new partnerships, highlight them link to them
    - drew - enhance our onboarding. we know its challenging. we have so many moving pieces. this presents opp. for non digital to get involved, opens creative landscape. complicates how it all works. some of techs -- these are all things influencing re eval and reflection 
    - stevo - 2022 gonna be lit
    - drew - exciting. amazing cash infusion. this allows us to invest in ways we think are the right ways. we want to invest in seed rounds, vc equity. 
    - drew - keep eye out for survey. please reach out if you want to help. def slow down and reflect and provide strategic outline for next steps soon
    - stevo - we say that but still like 50 projects 
    - drew - all good 
    - stevo - do you know drew on secondary market if any advances as well as how that will fit with boson?
    - drew - yeah, we could create and or leverage secondary market play ... that was long term of what would be exciting for us. i think this first step, they are acting as middle layer in order to ensure everything goes smoothly. next phase of vision would be to step out and let tech and game theory to be the intermediary btwn p2p sales. probably awhile till they get there -- and or if boson is right solution. we have to evaluate how things flow. possibly not just one. i know quite a few emerging - i thin kthat is approach we would like to plug in for our secondary sales. explore in first couple quarters
    - stevo - micro factories, micro shops in pertinent meta's 
    - drew - have those locations act as hubs. things sent to that hub escrow'd that way. play middle man role from customer service perspective. maybe its displayed at physical location. interesting possibilities
    - zico - real quick. damnit nevermind next time. its this giant print of one of the bitcoin bulls. 



## Text Discussion
- rj: I guess a question would be how those products factor into the brand. Would those "hacker spaces" be able to output full MetaFactory orders? or would they be used for prototyping or one-off products?
- arashi, paul, nifty +1 on focused quality over wide range of offerings
- bacon: Focused is obviously great, but with the breadth of the community we're trying to serve it kinda necessitates the wide approach. If MetaFactory focuses down it risks losing it's current first mover advantage in the space I think.
- zico: Go for depth then breadth or go for breadth then depth?
- wes: Everything I say is to shill berlin
- stevo :I think it's more of a modular approach. For the bulk of collabs we just zero in on the "best of the best" blank garments that we/community loves the most. This prevents sizing/fitting variations, and a ton of logistical headaches when dealing with tons of international production partners and fulfillment woes... Which also makes it complicated to onboard new talent to find paths to contributing in these parts of the DAO where we're drowning in work. 



