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title: 'ODIN Community Meeting Agenda - Nov. 7, 2023'
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# ODIN Community Meeting Agenda - Nov. 7, 2023

This is the agenda for the ODIN Community Meeting on Nov. 7, 2023. The agenda is community created. Since we have only an hour, some contributions to the agenda migbt not have time, in which case, tbey can be added to the next one. We'll spend a few minutes at the beginning prioritizing the agenda items based on emergent need and who shows up.

## Resources
- Miro board: https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVMFump0c=/?share_link_id=243807558162
- [Past Agendas](https://hackmd.io/@xeeban?tags=%5B%22Agenda%22%5D)

## Meeting Start (10m)

- Welcome and check-ins
- Agenda Review and prioritization
- Announcements

## Agenda Items - Session 1 (17:00 UTC)
(feel free to add below)
- Driver Mapping Canvas
    - https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVNTM_TZc=/
- Navigating ODIN via tensions
    - arriving
    - what's alive for you?
    - brainstorm
    - discuss
    - 
    - 
- Let's talk Fund11 and Catalyst 
    - motivated or not
    - no downvoting 
    - Catagories and cycles / segments
- Most Elegant Next Steps

## Agenda Items - Session 2 (22:00 UTC)
(feel free to add below)
- (Agenda item 1)
- (agenda Item 2)
- Most Elegant Next Steps

## Meeting End (5m)
- Check out

## Meeting Notes - Session 1 (17:00 UTC)
- Taken by:Newman
- Checkins
    - Roberto - Looking forward to S3
    - Felix - learning and being challenged - on track
    - James - Grumpy old man with DST - taking meeting on a walk
    - Seb Pabon - Active in projects - 
    - Jonathan - Summit London - got interviewed - highlight - eistein from ADA north pool. Loving that downvoting is gone
    - Nori - Yoga over the weekend - body happy. Hosting the Vacouver Summit meetup next weekend - Orcfax and Charlie3 and other speakers
        - talking about ODIN and Andamio - building presentation 
        - DST - some states ending it, but the Fed still not, so waiting
    - Tevo
        - presentations and with Estonian Innovation group and doing the follow up.
    - Randall - The free hour of DST. feeling good. on track projects
    - Vanessa - Happy to be here

### Agenda Review
    driver mapping canvas - 
    
### Announcements
    Jo Allum has a guest for session two - @benohanlon - around alt ways of building communities
    talking about Fund11
    Coming soon - Bridge Builders 
    PhoTrek Team on Playground to talk governance models

### Driver mapping Canvas
material and a guide for those doing the driver mapping activities with a group. An S3 PBL activity.

### Fund11 Annoucements
blog post - https://projectcatalyst.io/blog/project-catalyst-fund11 
removing downvoting
    Use case (early stage, solution, product)
    Cardano open (developer and eco-system)
    Catalyst systems improvements (discovery and development)
new categories - catalyst scoping workshops - 
max proposal cap - 

The black box of how these changes got here. 

reframing the IOG funding - not community driving. REconceptualizing. 

how do we engage with it?
    - repost proposals that we want to do / be involved
    - over extend with proposal writing - 
    - aggreate proposals - the format of proposal that facilitates the proposal process. 
    - all the communites we do proposal for - "This is a group.  This is what we do.  Here is the project lead and we do"

Publizing - "trading votes" - Shilling projects?
    the ideafest is an indicator of NOT getting funded
    "Doing the milestone reviewing has shown me (Vani) a lot - people get funded so much without publicising at all, and by writing THE most minimal and vague proposals"
    

DREPs in fund11?
    not in Fund11, prolly not in catalyst.  
    Intersect will prolly be there - for Cardano dREPs
    
    Catalyst community is gone.  Best to reframe to the reality. The expections vs the reality.  The pitfall is over-committing.  

The tension we feel. Perhaps a Catalyst Improvement proposal.

## Navigating via Tension
https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVMFump0c=/?moveToWidget=3458764567799782618&cot=14


## Zoom Chat
12:05:31 From James Dunseith To Everyone:
	I love marathon day
	Agenda: https://hackmd.io/2Bnp-Kc4RrO98IUlN6I5LA
12:15:27 From Nori Nishigaya To Everyone:
	Agenda: https://hackmd.io/2Bnp-Kc4RrO98IUlN6I5LA
12:20:23 From Sebastian Pabon To Everyone:
	@benohanlon
	in twitter
12:22:09 From Tevo To Everyone:
	on the topic of certain entitities haying for space.
	I wonder how Dor is doing?
	As I understood it includes the budget to facilitate distributions of this kind of knowledge
12:23:51 From Tevo To Everyone:
	https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVNTM_TZc=/ - Driver Mapping Canvas
12:29:52 From Tevo To Everyone:
	https://projectcatalyst.io/blog/project-catalyst-fund11 - Fund11 blog post
12:29:54 From Felix Weber To Everyone:
	https://projectcatalyst.io/funds/11
12:31:14 From James Dunseith To Everyone:
	Centralists live by a good superlative
12:35:35 From Felix Weber To Everyone:
	IOG community workshops are more like a entertainment thing ^^
12:35:45 From Felix Weber To Everyone:
	not really to get anything done and implemented tho XD
12:37:10 From vani To Everyone:
	This is part of what CGO wanted to do in F8 and 9 - open the black box and have some sort of open process and criteria for how IOG works with community suggestions.
	
	But now I see it as summat that won't happen - meeting with IOG is more for fun :-)
12:37:18 From vani To Everyone:
	Reacted to "IOG community worksh..." with 🌟
12:37:37 From Jonathan Adjei To Everyone:
	Reacted to "This is part of what..." with 💯
12:39:31 From Felix Weber To Everyone:
	Reacted to "This is part of what..." with 💯
12:40:55 From Tevo To Everyone:
	i assume gov tool testnet from intersect we could repurpose for catalyst and make our own network of dreps
12:41:09 From vani To Everyone:
	Reacted to "i assume gov tool te..." with 👍
12:41:47 From Randall To Everyone:
	or Kenric-inspired tech that may be more practically useful
12:42:46 From Randall To Everyone:
	time check
12:43:40 From vani To Everyone:
	Doing the milestone reviewing has shown me a lot - people get funded so much without publicising at all, and by writing THE most minimal and vague proposals
12:43:52 From Newman5 To Everyone:
	Reacted to "Doing the milestone ..." with 💯
12:45:40 From Jonathan Adjei To Everyone:
	Thinking beyond IOG controlled Catalyst.. the downward blips on this chart are the impact on the Cardano Treasury growth of Catalyst payouts. There is a huge potential for parallel innovation funds once the parameter control has been handed over to Intersect/Community.
12:45:51 From vani To Everyone:
	Do people here think that the "non-tech" track will help "people like us" get funded with the types of things that "people like us" do? (governance, education, community building, lalalala)?
12:46:07 From vani To Everyone:
	Reacted to "Thinking beyond IOG ..." with ❤️
12:46:13 From Nori Nishigaya To Everyone:
	https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVMFump0c=/?moveToWidget=3458764567799782618&cot=14


## Meeting Notes - Session 2 (22:00 UTC)
- Taken by:
- Ben O'Hanlon's HEART
    - https://twitter.com/benohanlon/status/1719705558997934556
    - https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVNTjlKvw=/
    - 