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title: 'ODIN S3 Study Group Meeting Agenda - Feb. 6, 2024'
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# ODIN S3 Study Group Meeting Agenda - Feb. 6, 2024

This is the agenda for the ODIN S3 Study Group Meeting on Feb. 6, 2024. The agenda is community created. Since we have only an hour, some contributions to the agenda migbt not have time, in which case, tbey can be added to the next one. We'll spend a few minutes at the beginning prioritizing the agenda items based on emergent need and who shows up.

## Resources
- Miro board: https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVMFump0c=/?share_link_id=243807558162
- [Past Agendas](https://hackmd.io/@xeeban?tags=%5B%22Agenda%22%5D)

## Meeting Start (10m)

- Welcome and check-ins
- Agenda Review and prioritization
- Announcements
    - S3 Community Intersession

## Agenda Items
(feel free to add below)
- S3 PBL proposal - final stretch
    - voting happening
    - "market for this type of educationa is forming"
    - anything else to do?
- Playground Governance discussion summary
    - "politics gets in the way of governance"
    - politics == corruption?  -> there is a clear negative connotation / perception of politics
    - where is the beauty that we can find in (or make, for better) politics?
        - xref: Artful Participation
- Practicing Consent-based Decision Making using real proposals
    - from Nori
    - one
    - story time - a class covenent - a physical live class for 12th graders. The 6 steps of consent based decision making - Objection and clarifing is the crux - Went really well. More practice is good and not really hard. - Objections: something that others aren't see and might do harm OR an improvement.  
    - why not using it?  - Corner stone of S3.  
    - Let's jump in
        - Randall willing to facilitate
        - Provide as a ... service to InterSect
    - Shared Stakes - What is real stakes?
        - hard to create the conditions for a shared agreement
            - Game will Robertos? - as a simulation of shared stakes
        - Time is the shared Resource - let's go thru the process and allocate the resource wisely
    - The hand signals for group work - long interventions and short - structuring our speaking in a consent process. "the meaning behind talkging about something" - helps to create a forward
- Proposed: ODIN facilitates **Developer Experience Working Group formation** at Intersect
    - ? key artifacts & outcomes ?
    - Example of the Gimbalabs Primary Driver workshops
    - develop domains in the S3 patterns - lookign thru the patterns
    - domain canvas on the S3 site - 
    - "a very concrete tension for that group" - meaning participation for ODIN and good reputation
- Most Elegant Next Steps
    - for Thursday - adopting circles from Miroboard using consent process
        - going thru the steps to choose a circle structure. 
    - key artifacts 
    - A job aid for doing a consent process
        - Author of proposal and facilitator 
        - Facilitator worksheet - process agenda
        - 

## Backlog Items for next time
- Developer Experience Working Group formation

## Meeting End (5m)
- Check out
    - thanks Newman
    - Zoom Timer <3 
    - Initiative <3
    - exploration, not just "learning"
    - 

## Meeting Notes
- Taken by: Newman and Randall


### AI Transcript
- https://app.fireflies.ai/view/ODIN-Sociocracy-3-0-Study-Group::quDzjnOiI45Dh5dL

## Zoom chat

16:05:56 From Newman5 to Everyone:
	https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVMjBqrrE=/
16:06:12 From JeremyB to Everyone:
	https://hackmd.io/@xeeban/HJC3wJxja

16:19:43 From James Dunseith to Everyone:
	A few pages after that Godin quote comes “Do the reading”. What does “Doing the Reading” mean in the context of good governance, intersect, CIP 1694 debates, etc etc
16:20:11 From Nori Nishigaya to Everyone:
	Reacted to "Nice background Nori" with 👍
16:20:45 From Nori Nishigaya to Everyone:
	Replying to "A few pages after th…"
	Might toe into the responsibility behind civics
16:21:01 From JeremyB to Everyone:
	I always thought of politics as exploring individual ethical landscapes and trying to find ways for them to fit together.  The ugliness of politics comes from imperfect knowledge consistently resulting in compromise, then compromise leads to transgression, cycling back to exploring the ethical space...the damage done is a source of negative memory.
16:21:09 From Nori Nishigaya to Everyone:
	Replying to "A few pages after th…"
	What does civic responsibility mean in an S3 kind of space?
16:21:38 From Nori Nishigaya to Everyone:
	Replying to "A few pages after th…"
	There is the pattern of Artful Participation in S3 too
16:21:46 From JeremyB to Everyone:
	Replying to "A few pages after th..."
	
	I've been taking the Princeton EdX constitutional Interpretation course, and there is plenty of reading!
16:21:54 From Randall to Everyone:
	deliberately not fitting together is a source of negative memory
16:22:09 From James Dunseith to Everyone:
	Reacted to "I've been taking the..." with 🤓
16:22:14 From James Dunseith to Everyone:
	Reacted to "There is the pattern..." with ❤️
16:22:46 From Newman5 to Everyone:
	"Dawn of Everything" video review - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=375FyGM4JyE
16:23:52 From Randall to Everyone:
	time check on this agenda item
16:24:17 From Randall to Everyone:
	100% Roberto
16:24:22 From JeremyB to Everyone:
	debate in politics is really rooted in clarification of ideas, yes?  Consent/objection is such a good relationship.
16:24:43 From Randall to Everyone:
	Artful Participation
16:24:52 From JeremyB to Everyone:
	Reacted to "Artful Participation" with ❤️
16:24:59 From Newman5 to Everyone:
	Reacted to "Artful Participation" with ❤️
16:25:28 From Newman5 to Everyone:
	Module idea - What is an objective and what's a concern?
16:25:47 From Newman5 to Everyone:
	er - what is an objection?  with criteria
16:26:12 From Randall to Everyone:
	time check #2
16:26:28 From JeremyB to Everyone:
	consent is an elegant acknowledgment of imperfection.
16:26:40 From Newman5 to Everyone:
	Let's talk 4 min on S3 pBL proposal next
16:26:40 From James Dunseith to Everyone:
	Reacted to "consent is an elegan..." with ❤️
16:31:06 From JeremyB to Everyone:
	governance, facilitation *and perspective*...between gimbalabs and ODIN I have found lots of healthy anchors to ground FOMO-type anxiety
16:31:33 From JeremyB to Everyone:
	nice zoom timer, I hadn't seen that
16:32:51 From James Dunseith to Everyone:
	Reacted to "governance, facilita..." with ❤️
16:35:00 From JeremyB to Everyone:
	too much awesome sauce?  We already agree?  Too much trust?  Maybe we should become less trustworthy?
16:35:06 From Randall to Everyone:
	Roberto, the 14-point Covenant kinda thing could provide a small-scale, concrete sort of structure for the Constitution game
16:35:47 From Newman5 to Everyone:
	Lets chat for 9:30 on this topic to start
16:36:24 From Newman5 to Everyone:
	Reacted to "nice zoom timer, I h..." with 👍
16:36:25 From Roberto M to Everyone:
	Replying to "Roberto, the 14-poin..."
	
	Not familiar with the 14-point covenant. Could you provide some reference material?
16:37:42 From JeremyB to Everyone:
	that proposal spooked me tbh (code of ethics in Catalyst)
16:41:15 From James Dunseith to Everyone:
	If that’s what it takes...
16:44:36 From JeremyB to Everyone:
	circle formation will require consent process right?
16:44:48 From harsha to Everyone:
	Reacted to "circle formation wil..." with 👍🏽
16:44:48 From Roberto M to Everyone:
	Reacted to "circle formation wil..." with 💯
16:45:00 From Nori Nishigaya to Everyone:
	Reacted to "circle formation wil…" with 👍🏽
16:45:01 From Nori Nishigaya to Everyone:
	Reacted to "circle formation wil…" with 💯
16:45:08 From Newman5 to Everyone:
	Reacted to "circle formation wil..." with 💯
16:45:11 From Newman5 to Everyone:
	Reacted to "circle formation wil..." with 👍🏽
16:45:35 From JeremyB to Everyone:
	can this group create some aids or tools to help the circle meeting or is it good to go?
16:47:47 From Randall to Everyone:
	I like the consent process as applied to a specific circle.  As applied to an omnibus set of circles, I'm concerned
16:48:49 From Newman5 to Everyone:
	Time Checking on this agenda item
16:49:59 From Randall to Everyone:
	autonomy, agency, initiative <3
16:50:02 From Roberto M to Everyone:
	Love the time keeping @Newman5
16:50:07 From Roberto M to Everyone:
	Reacted to "autonomy, agency, in..." with ❤️
16:50:09 From harsha to Everyone:
	Reacted to "Love the time keepin..." with 💯
16:50:10 From Nori Nishigaya to Everyone:
	Reacted to "autonomy, agency, in…" with ❤️
16:50:14 From JeremyB to Everyone:
	Reacted to "Love the time keepin..." with 💯
16:52:37 From JeremyB to Everyone:
	job aid= reference
16:53:23 From James Dunseith to Everyone:
	That was all Nori 🙂
16:53:30 From JeremyB to Everyone:
	yeah what does a consent meeting aid look like?
16:54:16 From James Dunseith to Everyone:
	Team, I’ve gotta jump - sorry to run early + have a good one
16:56:20 From Randall to Everyone:
	primary driver, key objective,
16:56:21 From harsha to Everyone:
	https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVN82pdgo=/
16:56:22 From JeremyB to Everyone:
	just want to say I really appreciate how this group navigates the S3 space...not dogmatic but curious, deep sensemaking

