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# Group Meeting

### 1 November, 2021


## General information

This page: https://hackmd.io/tuqOFbOLS6yH4euM137bCQ
Lesson material: https://artemzhmurov.gitlab.io/GroupTalk2021-11-1/
GitLab: https://gitlab.com
Zoom: https://stockholmuniversity.zoom.us/j/65599079628?pwd=SG5GU2oyVFhDSHNXOUhVVHpWbGFPUT09 (id: 655 9907 9628, pwd: 130237)

### Schedule

| Time | Topic | 
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| 14:15-14:35 |	Thoughts on online education |
| 14:35-14:45 |	Lesson show-case |

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### Instructors

- Artem Zhmurov

### Helpers

- The rest of the team

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### Icebreaker question

**The best online course / training event you "attended" or participated in. What was it you liked in particular and would it being better if it was offline?**

- Artem: Woodworking on youtube. Not possible offline - one would have to wait way too long until the glue sets.
- Michele: Gilbert Strang's course on Linear Algebra, freely available on Youtube. It is a live recording of lectures and it works well online since students can just go back and re-watch lectures, focusing on keypoints. I wouldn't have passed my first algebra exam without it.
- Linnea: Cryo-EM Sheffield symposium - cutting edge science without the travel. 
- Magnus: 
- John: Grant Jensen CryoEM youtube series-I liked being able to rewind/rewatch things as needed and skip ahead over parts I was familiar with
- Marie: Neutrons for life science. Very convenient as no-one needed to travel. Though off-line we'd have gotten more of the social aspects of participating in a course.
- Cathrine: IHPCSS, lots of mentoring opportunities
- Will : Biophysics conference 2021 - some training and online recorded video. I think the Q&A session could be better done in person. Also - some practice on Datacamp for basic coding. 
- Farzaneh: Jadi mir mirani. Git, Machine learning (in Persian), Thor Wikfeldt, introduction to HPC, Erik Lindahl, Molecular biophysics.
- Alex: Codecademy Python3 course. quick feedback on assignments and iterative and interactive problem solving! (also ditto on the Grant Jenson course)
- Urska: 
- Sarah: Drug discovery in cancer, Karolinska. It would have been better to be in person, but we got to at least do virtual tours of facilities which might not have been possible otherwise.
- Erik: NVIDIA DL training; advantage to self-pace and make it possible to share, but per se it would of course have been better with a personal tutor.
- Akshay: Giovanni Bussi's Metadynamics theory and tutorial. Limited Math to bog down the lectures despite the theoretical nature. 
- Koushik: Hunfeld online workshop on computer simulation and theory of macromolecules. Could watch the talks at my own pace as the recorded versions were available.I prefer the online version of poster sessions. Easy to swicth between working and attending the workshop thus would prefer the online version.
- Andrey: Andrew Ng's Machine learning course series; self-paced, quick feedback on excercies. 
- Yuxuan: Blender guru (Youtube) Build a donut.
- Olivia: Tams crash course for calculus in several variables, better online where you can choose time and pase. 
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## Questions, answers and information

**What are the pros of online education**

- Artem: Being able to interact with the audience while not speaking on top of each other.
- Magnus: Availability and reusability.
- Linnea: The material is available after the lecture, you can look at it again exactly when you need it. More democratic, loud people are not at the same advantage. 
- Marie: Pre-recorded material is available, allowing for greater flexibility in when the material is consumed and for it to be available after. Allows for flipped classroom and potentially more teacher-student interaction during live sessions. Course is easily available to a larger geographical area.
- John: Students can go through material at their own pace on their own schedule
- Michele: a-syncronous learning (i.e. self-paced learning, easier access to material)
- Erik: Self-pacing, not traveling, access to great teachers (without asking them to travel).
- Farzaneh: easy to rehearse, flexible hours, no transportation needed (Green) 
- Olivia:You can choose when to look at the material (if recorded) and rewatch hard parts 
- Cathrine: Asyncronous learning, self-paced and saves time on traveling etc.
- Will : It's easier to rewind parts of the lecture which may come unclear.
- Sarah: Availability of resources or people, easier opportunities to "travel" to a location or interact with someone you may not often meet otherwise.
- Andrey: self-paced, more resources available.
- Akshay: Study at self-comfortable timelines.  



**What are the cons of online education**

- Will : I prefer talking to person in person and have a face to face response. You can sense the enthuthiasm and the dynamics a lot more. Very hard to focus.
- Artem: Not seeing the faces of the audience.
- John: I usually feel less accountable/motivated learning online, more easily distracted by other things
- Michele: everything else, especially the drop of attention span; a bad teacher will not manage to engage students even irl, but even the best teacher has a hard time selling his/her lecture remotely
- Erik: It frequently ends up being shallow. Compare the type of discussions one might have about complex equations in class vs. simple/short issues usually covered on online classes.
- Marie: Difficult to troubleshoot student issues during exercises. Quality of recoded material can be below par. More timeconsuming to go through recorded material than notes on a topic. I have lower tolerance for sitting through recorded lectures than live lectures. Fairly difficult to get student-student discussions going.
- hard to pre-record (always want to re-record)
- Sarah: Poor communication or easy to tune out and lose the human interaction element.
- Not everyone is familiar with online tools and Internet etiquette; too easy to join and equally easy to drop out.
- Akshay: Troubleshooting Issues.
- Andrey: hard to efficiently organize communications with/within the audience; 
- Cathrine: harder to network, tiring to be in front of a screen for many days in a row
- Harder to ask questions
- Farzaneh: not applicable for courses which need a piece of paper to derive a formula etc.
- Koushik - Difficult to conduct labs/practicals
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*Always ask questions at the very bottom of this document, right above this.*
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