we're going to do uh put together a
video investigation of whatever we find
you know if I find the jetpack if I find
miners with jetpacks we will film it and
uh we will tell you we got miners with
jetpacks and we'll we'll we'll we'll
report that so whatever we find we're
going to report and if we find nothing
if we find nothing or maybe maybe the
villagers are completely exaggerating
this whole scenario who knows I mean the
only way really knows to go up that
River that's it that's the only way
we're ever going to find out so that's
what we intend to do
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David how are you doing good I'm really
looking forward to this yes no so am I
mate it's good to be back on as well
I've missed a couple of these these
shows and Ollie wasn't well on Friday
and stuff like that so it's nice to be
back um without further Ado uh Stephen D
I've said it wrong Dena Dena there you
go yeah good from the unidentified alien
podcast thank you for coming on our show
today yeah my pleasure guys thanks for
uh thanks for having me thanks for the
invite always happy to jump on and talk
about all the wild stuff that's
happening yeah well I mean to start with
the the like the reason I found your
show was I was searching for shows that
was talking about the Peru thing which
is kind of what we were going to sort of
scratch on tonight and um first of all I
find it I found the pro things like just
like fascinating it's
the at at worst there is the beginning
of an alien invasion deep in the Amazon
you know at best
we have got um like a scenario where the
official story to me seems wilder than
than aliens which is great crazy um and
you were said in your show that there
there was been uh attacks that had G in
Brazil and it looked like these things
were traveling through the through the
Amazon
River and I I just wonder where this is
going to start with it feels like for
for one better words given that like the
video that came out there seems to be
some more meat on the bone than the
usual story of this sort of
caliber yeah I think what what kind of
captures me with this story and is
probably the same thing for you guys is
the amount of witnesses of people who
have nothing to gain by reporting this
stuff you know these aren't people
making Tik toks and trying to gain
followers these are you know humble just
regular old people villagers in Peru who
are just living their lives right
they're not they're not trying like I
said to gain social media followers and
get clicks on YouTube and things like
that they're just yeah this is what's
happening to them and they don't know
how to explain it they're seeing these
things these luminous beings floating
through the air they're you know being
attacked with for lack of a better term
some type of ray gun with this you know
light flashing at them and then become
immobilized I mean this is stuff
that it defies explanation and it's it's
happening we just don't know what the
heck it is it's
incredible yeah I mean we had um uh how
do you pronounce it Dave is it rea the
his name is Doug goes by Doug but he
goes by Recker yeah for the uh American
um man you had to ask me and I had to
freeze on
it I want to say like vigilante but
that's not it's like U
it's linked in that show and I feel bad
for not knowing off the top of my head
but it is it is a strange pronunciation
uh yeah he's going down there with
another gentleman U again I'm blanking
on it which is sad Timothy alberino yes
you're on it I see I can like names
aren't my thing man I can picture him in
his hat and his shirt like he's always
posing in the pictures he's got that
down he very much so looks like the guy
who's taken an 18 hour Trier river trip
up River you know like he looks like the
guy lined all a bunch of people up I
picked that guy out of the crowd no he's
gone up an Amazonian River like for 18
hours definitely it's that guy and uh
recers going with him yeah I'm pumped to
see I mean they're actually going there
that's F that's exactly what needs to
happen but I I noticed on the Twitter
that they uh they put out which is like
the Peru attacks or something like that
on X um the they just did the whole
thing of running the that glowing being
like through the is it AI generated
thing and that came back as as like
human made
so I I don't really know what you take
from that I mean essentially if you make
something in Photoshop I suppose it
would come back as human made wouldn't
it just means it's not AI like
influenced
um but
the for me I I I wonder and we
unfortunately I wasn't on the the
interview that you did with recer guy
but the uh and his H there was a storm
where where he was and it cut out just
before olle was asking him what he
thought about the idea of like a project
blue beam something like that and could
what's going on down in Peru be a a
precursor or a test for that type of
thing and that's that's something I've
been wondering about ever since it
happened yeah it's it's an interesting
Theory and you can't help but to think
it right you know with all the talk of
of you know Project Blue beam over the
years um we always look for those
instances of like okay is this it is
this the one and I actually I kind of
shy away from this being that and the
only reason being and look I'm not Mr
knowt all by any means I'm just trying
to make sense of it like everybody else
but the only reason I would say it's not
something new where this would be the
beginning of like a blue beam or
something along those lines these
reports go back
decades and yeah you know from people
these these beings I guess we can call
them have been nicknamed by the
villagers there in Peru as face peelers
you know translated to English I can't
remember the Spanish pronunciation
piscal I think it is yeah I'm not gonna
try and murder that so I no I think
that's I think that's pretty sure that's
it um but that's the thing is that like
that nickname didn't come about just a
couple of months ago that came about
back in like the 80s I mean there is a
newspaper story that was done in a
Brazilian newspaper not Peru Brazilian
newspaper that talked about this an
instance like this back in the 80s so
again you have these reports going back
you know multiple decades and now here
we are today in 2023 where you have
these same reports happening in Peru and
Brazil again so it just makes you wonder
you know is this some type of occurrence
where these beings only do this every so
often where they make this type of
contact are they only coming you know
making themselves uh making themselves
you know appear for a certain amount of
time for some unknown reason is it a
survivability thing are they coming out
of hibernation like I don't know like
these are all just I I'm just
spitballing here but it's just weird how
these aren't new reports I think they're
just catching on now because of social
media and more people are finding out
about it and you know guys like us hear
about it and we're like wait what's
what's happening people are seeing what
they're being attacked by what so
maybe the the like the current climate
where people can talk about these things
you we've had Congressional hearings and
stuff like that now I I wonder if that
means these like more Sensational
stories can filter to the top a little
bit easier rather than just immediately
being Stamped Out it's like oh no no
that's that's
ridiculous yeah I hope so because
because you know there were reports that
um you know even the politicians in Peru
in Brazil were going to be having
hearings like they did in the US and in
Mexico and Brazil I think was more along
the lines of uh almost like being
imminent with with doing this stuff like
the politicians do talk about this in
the open um it's talked about within the
Brazilian military U where they have
been responding to the reports of these
beings being in the water like within
the Amazon River these things being
reported so the Brazilian military have
actually responded to that to
investigate because look they also have
to investigate is this a human thing is
this some type of you know Espionage or
secret type of you know highlevel
experiment with with this advanced
technology that maybe is reverse
engineered that some type of you know uh
Maybe not maybe not an actual country is
doing whether it be the United States or
otherwise but some type of you know
black sight group where they're
conducting their own experiments and
they make themselves appear as if
they're luminous and they have these
weapons but why would they be down there
and doing these things again it's all
it's all Up For
Debate it's it's wild because it's like
clips from Predator esque movies you
know like you expect Arnold
Schwarzenegger to be somewhere in the
jungle running around with this but you
also can immediately like if you hear it
and you've read about you know obviously
the Skinwalker Ranch and everything
that's going going on there like this
kind of sounds like that Skinwalker
phenomenon that they experience out on
reservations where everybody stays
inside and it's a thing and everyone's
like it's not a thing and everyone that
lives there is like this is definitely a
thing and uh it just it kind of hearkens
to that it's it is bizarre and the fact
that it is so well established for so
long is even
stranger of media attention's weird yeah
I think think it's interesting what
Stephen just said then about the
Brazilian government taking these things
seriously because like being in the west
we all we all think we have like this
free and open shared internet and yeah
it's of course like we we we live in
free countries we'd hear what was coming
across and all of a sudden you realize
just how C part
compartmentalized we are from my other
parts of the world and like me we don't
know what the what the average like word
on the street about UFOs is in China or
Russia or Korea you know we've no
idea yeah it's it's a good point I mean
all I can say is it's just it's just
what I hear from people which is they do
take this stuff seriously in Russia and
in China and places like that as well um
you know I've been told before by um by
people who have I guess knowledge of
military military strategies I guess you
can say that we're not the only ones who
try to reverse engineer these things you
know because look you can debate all you
want do we have craft do we not do you
believe David grush and his claims that
we reverse engineering these things do
you
not if you can get past all that and
just look at what people within the
military have claimed over the past
decades and people that I've spoken to
in the military and Military
Intelligence where they've told me that
not only do we have craft that we're
working on and have reverse engineered
but you do have Russia who does it as
well and you do have China who does it
as well maybe we don't know how far
along they are I've also been told that
they basically steal everything that we
when I say we the United States
government does um maybe that's just
huous by the person I'm talking to I'm
not sure but that's that's you know
that's what I've been told I so no
that's it's actually pretty factual I
live near a lab and there was a Chinese
National they found hanging in a secured
area in the woods uh and it was just
kind of nobody talked about it think it
was just a everybody rolled in a few
years ago and everyone just like so what
was that about and everyone's like I
don't know what you're talking about
let's just uh get in line and go inside
yeah
whoa yeah yeah they're they're
definitely everywhere it's but we're
over there too it's it's a weird thing
they they let everything go away with
like that it's bizarre H what what do
you think what do you think is going on
in
Peru
man it's a tough question man it is if
I I lean toward it's weird because I
lean toward toward a a human experiment
I lean toward advanced technology and
some type of blacksight group that is
over there doing these things for what
reason I do not know um you know
experimentation with the populace
gauging people's reactions I mean your
guess is as good as mine that's what I
lean toward but the thing that always
brings me back and makes where I argue
with myself and I say well if that's the
case and how could this have been
happening in the 7 in the 80s as well
like did the US government or whoever
this might be if it is a human
interaction did they have this
technology 4050 years ago and if they
did why are they using the same
technology that they used 40 or 50 years
ago you would think they would be
testing out new technologies rather than
the same stuff they were using in the
80s when they got the nickname the face
peelers for obvious grotesque reasons so
it's um man I I do I go back I argue
with myself about this it's like well
it's got to be some type type of
experimentation with some type of secret
you know super secret advanced
technology that the governments are
trying to use but I just go around in
that Circle so honestly I'm really not
sure I wish I had a better answer but
I'm really not sure it's it's it's crazy
I've never seen anything like it in my
life yeah no that's a good answer it's a
good answer yeah I mean it made me think
uh because of the interview you did with
Michael Herrera the um the link to your
podcast is in the description so we can
go find it um when he obviously people
remember him
um coming out and saying that he like he
saw a craft he was part of a team the uh
he thought there there was some sort of
human trafficking go going on and that's
now changed to where he was without sort
of like spoiling the full thread of your
podcast he was then let into extra
information he didn't know where people
that are less contaminated by
technology um find it easier to channel
essentially Channel UFOs and to what
they use within the back engineering of
things and even to like to make them
appear so they can shoot these things
down H he then goes on to say that there
could be like a thousand of these sites
worldwise where they're where they're
trying to they're channeling these craft
in and then shoot then shooting them
down to reverse engineer them and that
got me thinking of how
without humanizing it if if this is
something
extraterrestrial the uh without
humanizing what they are too
much how long even if it's an um even if
they consider us so inferior we're such
we're such a loose threat it doesn't
matter
if if for instance there was some sort
of
like let's say let's say a a special
type of lion that like roed around the
woods worked out that it could jack like
a couple of cars a year and then that
line told the other cars the the that
line told the other Lions so a group of
a thousand Lions could jack a car or two
every year eventually we'd go we're
gonna [ __ ] those Lions
up right so I'm just if if his story is
on the level how far can you push these
things for things that are so much so
far advanced than we are just going now
I'm sorry this ends today yeah I think
you you hit the nail on on the headle
because it that's one thing that's um a
lot of people are worried about is is if
it's true and and I and I I know Michael
Herrera not personally we've spoken of
course you know the two interviews that
I've done on my podcast with him um but
we've spoken had long conversations off
the air so to speak as well
so just my opinion he comes across as a
straight shooter um he comes across as a
guy who is trying to do the right thing
and is telling the telling the truth
about what he's experiencing that's
that's how he comes across to me just
from the conversations I've had with him
on and off the air um so if
his if what he's being told is true okay
not that I don't I don't he wouldn't
make it up on purpose again just my
impression of him if what he's being
told is true which is that we are
shooting down aircraft or or UFOs uaps
otherworldly craft at a huge clip at a
huge rate then what is to stop these
extraterrestrials with this you know
huge advanced technology from just
squashing us like ants saying all right
like like enough already what are you
guys doing like it comes to a point
where they'll use the analogy of like a
parent and a child
like it comes to a point where your kid
can only annoy you so much before you
just snap and scream at him and give him
a little spanking you know y so if
that's the case how long before they
give us the
spanking I mean so if that's what's
happening it does it's it's concerning
you know now is it being embellished to
him maybe is is he be is he you know
given a figure that is
um being used to try to paint a broader
picture than what's actually happening
is possible but regardless even if we're
only shooting down five alien craft a
year and they know we're doing it on
purpose like at some point they would
have to say like screw you guys you know
so it is it's a concern you're
absolutely
right it also kind of flies in the face
like if that's that's the logic we're
applying right like we're waiting on the
the galactic spanking if that's what's
happening then that is clearly not
related to the face
rippers right they're not unless those
poor peruvians are getting the spanking
yeah right like I would feel bad because
they haven't really done anything wrong
they haven't done anything you know so I
don't yeah it does it does feel separate
and if that's the case I guess that kind
of goes to um you know the different
talk of different species right where
you have the nordics you have the tall
Grays you have the tall whites and you
have the reptilians and you know all the
all these different species that are
said to be roaming around the planet or
already on planet Earth and you know
whether or not that's the case they say
that some were more nice than others so
it makes you wonder who's doing what
which one is which you know you know
it's
bizar it's bizarre I was at like a muon
meeting with some people and it was like
one that was in my area I was I'm going
to go to this and I was talking to some
people they seemed reasonable they seem
logical we're having excellent
discussion and they brought up like the
here's our book with the 27 different
known types of extra terrestrials and I
was like how how do you know this nobody
could nobody could tell me that uh and I
was just like but it doesn't mean it's
not right like when I listen to
herrera's
story it which I listened to that
episode I listen to that that particular
podcast twice
it's it's a wild podcast everybody
listening definitely go to Stephen's
podcast and check that out I'm sure
we'll have it linked you do that do that
listen to it a couple times Reserve
judgment and thought just go all the way
through because I had to do that around
the second time it went through
something clicked in my head I don't
know if you know this but there's been a
couple huge conglomerate corporations
buying up all the DNA companies
globally that makes zero
sense no that's interesting I wasn't
aware of that yeah no they're all owned
by the same Corporation now all of them
um what are they looking for
that's the only reason to do that right
you're looking for something I've always
been freaked out by the like 23 and me
and like companies like I I don't the
the amount of um like research
and what's the word I'm looking for like
facilities that to be put into that just
so I can find that I'm not no .4%
African that doesn't that doesn't seem
to add up in my eyes that's a lot of
work it makes you wonder you know what
what are they keeping it for what
happens after to do all the testing I
know I know what you mean yeah yeah what
what do they really want but no I mean
it just like when I was listening to a
story it it clicked in that and I I I'm
very interested by his story I'm very
interested by the details I'm very
interested by the way he tells his story
um you you did a great job with the
interview to get stuff that I've never
heard him say anywhere else
well no thank you no I appreciate that
very much guys I appreciate you uh with
with the shout outs here tonight it's
you know a lot so yeah I agree with you
about him as well even when I when I
watched the interviews when he did the
the the three gria guys did the Sha Ryan
Show one after another I thought he came
across as the
most like trustworthy of the three of
those people as
well yeah Herrera is um he's he's an
interesting dude he really is and I mean
that in a good way um because he again
and just in the conversations that that
I've had with him he just really really
strikes me as someone
who wants wants the right result and he
wants to be the guy that helps to get
the right result and even if that means
maybe he's in danger you know and I
think that's a lot of reasons why a lot
of whistleblowers you know we see we all
see the reports about oh there's 25
whistleblowers lined up you know
representative burett swears they're all
ready to go and then no nothing happens
and then nobody talks and yeah so it it
takes a lot for guys like Michael
Herrera and even DC long and and Eric
Hecker again make of them what you will
when you talk about you know the guys
who were at at the GRE conference back
in June um you know again everybody has
their own opinions about all three men
I've spoken to them and so everybody has
their own opinion and that's fine
but I still admire them even if even if
people think that they're you know lying
through their teeth or they're making it
up or their puppets or whatever that's
up to you to decide yeah I'm just I my
opinion is I admire them for standing up
and coming out against the fire because
that's exactly what they've done
especially with with with Mike Carrera
he's uh he's had a lot of threats so I
feel for go it's this so so just this is
quite quite a good segue to what what I
wanted to ask you next because I know
you you pushed for time um the like when
you look at whistleblowers all you need
to do is think of Julian assage Chelsea
Manning um Edward Snowden whistle blown
doesn't work out for people very well
and those were secrets that were gonna
irritate a government and alter a
country uh when you're talking about
like nonhuman intelligence and stuff
like that you're talk about
whistleblowing on things which will
change like the entire Paradigm that we
that we live in MH so I can't help think
I I know that like the The Whistleblower
protections have come through but I I
still find that weird you know I I find
it weird how you can be a official
whistleblower you know that it that it
doesn't sit with me properly um so the
question is is why is why is this being
allowed to happen now and it's not
because I I'm I'm sure if someone tried
to come out say in the '90s with this
sort of stuff if it's true and they they
would have been silenced really quickly
so there's a reason I keep saying on the
on this show uh there's a reason right
now that the at least the US government
want my mom and dad to believe in aliens
for some
reason yeah yeah it's a great question
it's kind of like um you know that
double-edged sword right you kind of get
excited of like hey this is this we've
never heard anybody talking like this
before in the in the US government or in
the governments of the world and take
this stuff seriously and then you stop
to think to yourself but
why why now yeah and and I've had that
question myself and I've I've asked that
to a couple of different people um on
some of the interviews that I've done
and even outside of interviews and the
the reason that they keep coming back to
is kind of like
this almost like this leak of
information almost like saying okay um
we're gonna give you a little bit okay
and you know we we know that you know
some of this stuff there's only so much
that you can hide throughout time so if
you start to give a little then you give
the illusion that you're getting a lot
and then people kind of you know take
the bait and then they run with it m and
then maybe they just get distracted by
the next thing
so that's that's at least some of the
the um Impressions that I've been given
when I've investigated that question
myself it's just kind of like well here
you go here's here's some crumbs go go
have fun you know so I I don't know I
mean you can make of that but I guess it
kind of makes sense it does make sense
but it's been so it's been so consistent
and
the even when you look back at the the
the Las Vegas like sightings as well and
that to me that that's why when um uh
the Peru thing first bubbled up like I I
think Ole who isn't on this show show
now he was like to to start with he said
no this is this is going to end end up
being nothing I said no no I I think
this is going to keep going because the
Las Vegas thing kept going and it seems
like there's just enough news being put
out into the cycle to just keep this
wheel moving forward and it's it's like
every month I'm sure I'm sure in another
month or two the the Peru thing might go
completely silent but I bet there'll be
something else and then there'll be
something
else yeah I mean some people even go as
far to say that they use it as a
distraction that they use it as a
distraction story from other things that
goes on you know behind the scenes maybe
that's the case too maybe they you know
so to speak and I don't really like this
explanation but some people say you know
they drum up the alien stories bring out
the aliens you know when they want to
you know look at the shiny thing over
here and don't pay it's a new phenomena
though isn't it it's a if they are using
that as disinformation it's a new
phenomena and I I always go back to the
when when the first stories like dropped
in the New York was New York Times
article uh so was that was 2017 I think
and then there was like an official
confirmation of it in sort of late early
2020 I think something like that right
um and I I can't help think that it was
strange timeing to do that when
everybody was in lockdown so it was like
we're going to tell all these
[ __ ] about aliens when we know
they're watching no they're not even at
work everybody's watching yeah yeah it's
a good point and it really does it makes
you wonder like why do they want us to
know certain things about it but then
they still hold back
right I mean we just had this past week
where you know Representatives here in
the US with burett and Luna and
moscowitz they go into the skiff and
everybody's excited they're going to the
skiff they're going to the skiff and
then they come out and they're like yeah
we didn't learn anything because they
just go in there and they're told you
don't have the top secret clearance to
know the answers to the questions that
you're asking and then they you just get
stonewalled and stonewalled because
you're not cleared enough and that's
incredible to think for the US Congress
like you can't even have oversight
because you don't have clearance to have
oversight about the things that you're
asking about it's it's wild yeah I
actually I actually made that prediction
on a show that nothing was gonna come
there and the point was like why was
like so even if they go and say that
they it's code word classified and
somebody's given them the code word
right that's all you need that's all you
need you're in the skip you're in the
secure I got code word it's you know
project Blu-ray Mocking Bird seven
whatever all right so I tell you all
about it they're like oh my God now I
know and if you tell anyone will kill
everyone you know right you can say
nothing because they're not cleared like
people like they're going to get the
info they still can't tell you they
can't even tell you that they've been
told like it's it it always blows my
mind in that regard like it was going to
be and it was never going to be a moment
I mean I get it for them if I was in
their shoes and you know tell me and
I'll you know spin the story anywhere
you want but I would know I'd probably
make that
deal I mean I'd probably make that it's
hard to turn down it's hard to turn down
it's hard to turn down and not only that
like whistleblowers like we were talking
about I get why there's not a lot of
them the government is scary the
government is scary in the ways most
people don't understand especially the
American government like if you want
like you got a whistleblower and he's
like I've got say you had a guy who
worked at the doe and has actually seen
alien material at the labs right he's
like I know what this is I have class
I'm going to tell he goes and checks his
mail one morning and there's pictures of
his kids kid in
school guess who's not testifying right
yeah you stay home you stay home you
know how much longer do I have to
retirement yeah let's just ride this out
because I here's one thing that I know
happens for a fact people with high
level security when they get older and
this is a new thing especially because
of the nuclear programs and things that
have gone on here in the US as people go
to care facilities because their mind
starts to slip they get interviewed on a
regular
basis because the things they know
should still stay secret right things
need to stay quiet and you know a lot of
stuff and now you're starting to slip so
what happens well we'll put them in
Special
Care will you or will you just up that
Med because there's a lot of people that
are retiring out that have a lot of
Secrets
and none of it's slipping out at the
nursing homes I mean even like the
mundane ones like nuclear ones nuclear
security right that's a huge thing
there's a lot of people involved you did
put one of them in
charge yeah right well that's a that's a
different
conversation not fit for YouTube I say
nothing I say nothing yeah I didn't
bring that up let's let's pretend like
nothing happened but so like just and
here's mine so you know Stephen it's
something I've been working with and
I've talked about on the show a few
times if there's a milit if there's a
government organization that I believe
has access to any type of extrenal
extraterrestrial interdimensional
whatever technology something we don't
know it's definitely the department of
energy because they have unique security
clearance they have bases that are
secured against the military against
Congress you know what I mean you have
to have very special credentials to get
on there and even then you're escorted
you can't go anywhere and if you try and
sneak on most of them are surrounded by
nuclear waste that's a hell of a hike
you're risking your life on yeah you
know uh there are place out there that
you know a brief walk through the area
you have cancer now um you know so it's
it's an interesting control mechanism
and it's and it's something that I never
see anyone talk about like Area 51
that's a department of energy owned
property they own that land you know
they own most of the land that's
important it's curious yeah I think I
think you you Ed the key term there a
control mechanism US government has has
uh got a real hold on control mechanisms
over the past 80 years or so so you're
absolutely right and there's a lot of
different arms that they can use to
control and that's what makes it so
difficult and I think that's the weird
thing is that they
they I guess allow might be the right
word I think that's that come out and
then the rest are like n you're still
not finding out about that it's
frustrating yeah I'd still be on the
payroll though just for any government
agency listening I'll say whatever you
want the right I you ain't got a read me
man buy me I'm cheap
cheap um before you shoot off do you
think this is going to come to anything
do you think because I I've I made this
bold prediction that I think they're
going to use whether
it's some sort of planned disinformation
or whether it's real um next year around
the um like the anniversary of Roswell I
think we're going to get like Roswell
details
maybe yeah no I I that would be really
something wouldn't it you know if we're
that far removed now that they decide to
actually give us something but I guess I
it's a tough question to answer because
I think there's a lot of layers when you
say you know where does this go what do
we find out I think in some senses we've
gone further already than we ever
thought we were going to yeah over the
past couple of years I think it's wild
as well that people play it down you
know especially when you like I've the I
know you get people like come like have
like UFO YouTube channels and stuff like
that and they always refer to themselves
as like researchers and stuff like that
we don't really like play with that
we're just commentators we find we find
this stuff interesting it's fun to talk
about and uh that's that's kind of where
we sit with it um but I find it weird
that these people that have supposedly
been like like
researching uh whatever that means like
for years and years and years they um
they all they want to do is play this
down like you literally had a
conversation about UFOs and Congress and
you're trying to tell me it means
nothing yeah that no right right that
that's ridiculous I mean it absolutely
does mean something because what it
means is the conversation changes the
narrative changes the the view of the
topic changes it goes from you know tin
foil High conspiracy you know some uh
corn farmer who's picking his belly butt
and says he saw his cow taken up by UFO
you know that's what people always think
about when they say oh yeah okay sure
buddy you saw UFO uhhuh now it's
actually come to a thing where they're
having serious conversations about it so
the image changes the image and has
changed from that you know crazy person
who says they saw their cow taken by UFO
to a David grush or Ryan Graves or David
fraver people with military experience
decorated military guys who are
respected by thei and their peers who
have sat down under oath in front of US
Congress that's the image now so I think
that is that's probably been the biggest
turn for me over a short period of time
really over two years so I I'm excited
man I don't think we're done yet this
year I wouldn't be surprised to see some
really intriguing stuff come out during
the
holidays um and that's just my own
personal Theory I don't have any any
intel on that by any means that's just
my theory because people are going to be
distracted with the holidays so you
might see them you know trying to sneak
some things in under under the rug and
after that you know we have the new
defense authorization act that's being
passed by Senator Schumer that's
supposed to be passed by the beginning
of 24 and that might open up some doors
um for some new revelations in 24 that
that I have been told that part I have
been told awesome we've definitely kept
you man I can I hear you got obligations
uh we'd love to have you back on we'll
figure out the time thing and yeah for
sure I'm sorry it got so dark in here no
worries into the void yeah the the sun
set on me rather quickly here in South
Florida so I wasn't the time starting to
change so glad sorry it got dark there
at the end and no worries but um yeah
for sure know I I appreciate you guys
again thank you for having me on for the
invite and for uh for the shout out with
with what I've been doing with with um
you know the UAP podcast really
appreciate it you're doing great stuff
man you're doing I recommend anyone
everyone goes and listens to it and it's
it was just nice when I when I listen to
it to to hear somebody talking about
this sort of stuff which I I with the
same I I think Cur curiosity and
excitement as I think we talk about it
as well I then that that's you know
there was no no pretense of like I know
what's going on it's just like no this
is [ __ ] wild yeah I appreciate that a
lot yeah no Madonna syndrome it's just
fun you know exactly let's have a cool
conversation man that's right thanks
guys thanks cheers everybody see you
soon bye
bye boom that was fun this podcast is
kick ass it's great yeah it's it's a
really good show I really it's it's in
my regular circle of podcast listening
now but it's it just like it's such a
wild time to be into this sort of stuff
isn't
it is it I think so yeah I mean it's the
I I I don't know whether it's it
it's almost becoming too much like a
like sport maybe
because you know because it's so
exciting I could see that I can that
that that I think plays a little more
for me like it also gives me a break you
know because there's so
much crazy [ __ ] going on in the real
world quote unquote real world this is
fun to an extent I mean the face rippers
is not fun anyone involved that's not
having fun and it is a bizarre situation
the the rip uh might be having
fun I don't know I don't know you don't
you don't want to be the rcky not make
an assumption you don't not make an
assumption there either people learn to
people wear dog
masks um I'm just saying like if you're
if you if you're going as far as ripping
something's face off I think you're
doing it because you like it I don't
know never never ripped anyone's face
off that I'm going to admit to on
camera but I'm just saying they're doing
a thorough job of that bone that white
bone is any indication wow you are a
professional um no man
it it's bizarre is it fun like for a
while there it was fun A year ago I
think it was fun even maybe more than a
year ago it was fun and it seems the
deeper and deeper we continue to go we
talk to more people
the more [ __ ] bizarre it gets to the
point it's just like this is insane this
is insane I go back to the like things
being shut down after the like Chinese
spy balloon was scene and we were doing
a live stream and somebody popped up in
the chat going another UFO's been shot
down over Canada like that a normal
thing to say happens all the time yeah
yeah like that's just of course of
course we're doing doing a live stream
about UFOs and another UFO is just being
shot down over Canada why else why else
would we be here that's how that works
that's how that works Le yeah like
Rudolph um just popped up in here say
saying like the proof things a grift I
don't understand who's doing the grift I
I know I get see the problem I I I have
here is I think the problem problem is
when you get um like the I'm not saying
these people are grifting by the way but
I'm when you've got the like the record
guy and you've got the Timothy albino
albino albino um and he does stuff for
History Channel doesn't he he's done a
lot of stuff yeah I think so so
obviously if he if he's if they're going
over to proove they've got some sort of
funding to do it so whether it's going
to be on his YouTube channel or
someone's YouTube channel or History
Channel there is some sort of content
going to be made in the same way when we
went to you to see you Dave we made
content in a [ __ ] ha prison did we
because it's apparently done it's
apparently ready allegedly allegedly um
so that's right what you've got there is
you've got a story and people are going
to make money off a story that's that's
[ __ ]
journalism of the day it's exactly what
it is it's a tax write off for TR um so
yeah but the uh the thing is it's the
beginning of the story like if if the
whole story was a grift
it would have to be a Griff from the
beginning
and see that's like he's just said there
po poor people uh poor people in
villages they they ask for money for
interviews as soon as someone ask asks
for money the grip start where I I
haven't seen the interviews there's no
people getting interviewed about this
what there is is people is cell phone
footage of people stood around going
there was something over there and there
a load of people running that way yeah
yeah and I know that the Timothy guy
he's bringing down medicine for the
village they're bringing down food they
got together with a church here in
Nashville who's like sending things for
people down there who need things
um so there's a humanitarian aspect
there it and the reality is that people
think they're gonna make a YouTube video
and make1 million off of this they're
woefully wrong and they don't understand
how anyone gets paid from YouTube uh
that's that's not
it can someone figure out way sure but
so if it's a grift if it's a con it's a
big con with a goal and an angle and the
argument to that would be that the
people were talking about would be the
people who set this up in the 80s so
that they could reap it today be you
know or maybe they're playing off a
known myth in the jungle I could see
that so they bought a you know 300,000
to a half million dollar
jetpack got somebody to fly it around in
a suit with LED lights to scare
people and hopefully not crash into the
canopy because it's a [ __ ]
jungle let's not forget about the
trees uh I'm I'm I'm missing it but you
know I was never a good good at conning
so like that that you know maybe some
match di man out there's like oh I know
how to do that yeah I think that's oh
also Rudolph don't get me don't don't
get me wrong I'm not I'm not picking on
you I'm just oh definitely not I'm I'm
I'm used using your comment because it
was a good good way to spark
conversation
um yeah that that's the thing I just I
always look at right it's not about
who's making money now it's about who
who's making money when it started I
can't see I know I know that um uh you
suggested maybe they wanted to do their
own thing have their own YouTube thing
like you're talking about like pretty
[ __ ] right I I don't I'm trying to
I'm trying to work I'm trying to be as
like new liberal as possible
here uh but you you talk about fairly
primitive like in in comparison to what
we're doing right now you know I don't I
don't think the these guys are going to
jump on the FI on fiber optics set
themselves up with some uh with some
nice microphones and a webcam and start
doing a YouTube show they're B with the
spotty yes I think have cell phones yeah
yeah that's how from
1997 correct it is old cell phones
that's where your old cell phone you
trade in goes to Third World areas um
yeah man
it that's the thing this is so bizarre
you know I was talking about it with my
wife and I was like this is just so
strange and she just she never weighs in
on this she she looks at his I'm
slightly insane that's
fine um cuz I am she's not wrong oh no
no I'm definitely not saying she's wrong
uh I'm getting a little laggy there for
a second that was weird but
um she made a point that she's like well
it kind of makes sense right because at
one time I was going to go to Peru
because of all the ruins that are there
all the stuff and Mysteries that are in
Peru she like you know maybe they're
coming back or maybe they're always
there or whatever maybe that's their
area
right I'm not wrong on that but it is
bizarre it is truly a bizarre situation
I'm glad we I'm glad we've gotten to
know someone who's actually going down
there that'll be awesome come back I'm
super pumped about that conversation um
yeah we've been getting good people on
lately stepen was awesome yeah I was um
I was so upset when I watched because I
um the this morning I watched the clip
of that
podcast uh that Ollie had re-uploaded
and as soon as Ollie started asking
about blue beam I was like yeah yeah
getting edged all the way like no no I
can't hear you now okay bye-bye I was
like oh
no and um because I I I do I keep
thinking to myself
that
if if things have happened over the past
three
years let's say big events that might
have had things that put used that might
have been staged you know like things
like people may be falling over in a
street and maybe hospitals these these
things might have been staged the face
rops yes the the
um it it would make sense to me if you
if you were going to do that in the same
way as let's say Le let's say if if
there was towers that happened to come
down and you were going to say like a
third one fou but it happened to be in
the background of you when you were
saying it it would make sense to record
all these things
beforehand and so you have them ready to
roll so if you're going to have a
project play beam thing and you're going
to do it then you're going to do it
somewhere remote you're going to do it
where there's very little technology out
there to get this to to get the what
what's going on out there and I wonder
whether what you're seeing is
the the b roll footage the b roll for a
project blue beam that's b-roll I think
it would be setup they're setting a
story they're seting a story could be
yeah yeah yeah because what is it the
the videos you shared with the things in
the lightning storms coming down yeah
that was weird that was weird man bring
might bring that up actually because
that that that's worthy of a play I
think yeah I mean I get it Ai and
everything is so there so he just kind
of got to go with whatever's out there
but I found
that truth is always so much Stranger
Than
Fiction the reality of a situation is
always far more bizarre than the story
of the situation you know
um I just if this is an invasion it's a
I gotta be honest nobody picked that as
a starting place for the invasion they
didn't blow up any major control Hub or
military Hub where' they start started
eating people's faces in
Peru just godam love coffee
um I'm just looking for this clip
because I like I at
first I started watching this Tik Tok I
thought I'm not I'm not sure whether
this is worth my time watching this and
then um sorry I've got to put on the big
monitor no worries the
uh it was good it was weird it was weird
you know you got to be skeptical about
everything but you might as well lean
into it and have a little fun that's you
know it's all mental gymnastics I guess
all an
exercise somebody put was it
ninjas got ninjas in Peru man
that's no that was not on my 2023 bingo
card I mean I've defin I I've had I've
had Alien Invasion on my H apocalypse
bingo card now for for quite some time
and I'm waiting for them to tell
everyone they're not aliens I genuinely
feel like that's what the buildup is
that they're not aliens at all I enjoyed
the other day the
um I can't remember what podcast it was
on it had the two guys that wrote skin
walks at the
Pentagon um so what Jeremy
Corbell yeah it was Jeremy Corbell one
of the guys was Irish yeah yeah yeah
yeah that's kelm Keller that's it yeah
and uh when he turned around and said
the if you still believe that this
phenomena is nuts and bolts crap
then you are ill equipped to talk about
it and I I I I really like that I really
like that because I'm as anyone that
watches this I I think the the idea
of I I I just wonder if these things
have been visiting us for so
long at what point did it stop being
common
knowledge what was strange was this the
Herrera interview lined up with the
Shawn Ryan interview that he did with a
different guy who was talking about the
Monroe Institute and psychic spies and
things that the intelligence agency and
the government have known about people
and that some people are far more
perceptive and they're trying to find
ways to find those people because they
use them up they use them up which is
the same thing Herrera said although I
really think what he saw was them
getting together the Chuck
Wagon for whatever else is out there I I
don't think they're getting them because
they're not inundated with technology so
they're that doesn't make sense because
if it's genetic thing it's a genetic
thing unless it's some kind of exposure
to microwaves or radiation or but then
everybody is you're not hiding well no I
mean I I kind of liked what he was
saying there because he was he was
suggesting thata because it's because uh
technology and our addictions with
social media is essentially like stop us
vibrating a higher frequency so the
closer you are to like a natural way of
life is the higher vibration you be at
so I have two problems with that one
very woo yeah well no no it's not even
that's not even the problem one it is
such a put together thing that that is
written I'm not saying he did it I'm
saying whoever told him did that is a
script that is an excellent because that
is exactly what everyone would think
yeah and everyone I've know who's ever
had a serious spiritual experience are
people in First World countries who are
inundated with that stuff what would you
say to that
Lee did
inhibit anything you know it's so
it yeah it just seems well framed
anything that's coming from some kind of
government is well framed and I'm
telling you if they would hire us we
could help them with this [ __ ] man uh
Rudolph's asked a different question
another question here to to you uh and I
don't know if you're going to know about
this but I'm interested in this as well
is that is there any news on the big
building they had to build uh around
around the artifact the grush thing yeah
that was I would love to
know I mean that was I I still think
there's like there's been a few of these
things and
um that that Aussie journalist is well
in the note like he's he's def he's he's
he's been told stuff that he's been so
right you can't you can't tell say this
stuff and in the same ways I I believe
Corell and um nap have been told things
that they they can't they can't say yet
I it wouldn't surprise me if they have
an itinerary of things they can talk
about and in what order they can do
it
um but like I I think there's nuggets
thrown out in this in these things like
there's there's I think that was a Mor I
think the in the grush interview the
first gush gush interview when he said
he was asked about uh Roswell and he
said no no I can't talk R well that's
still classified I think that was a seed
plant as well because it's say it's
still classified that means later down
the road you can declassify you can tell
people about it so that's just a seed
being
planted I think that goes hand inand
with like Chris blo interviews if you've
listened to any of those the Chris blo
interviews are interesting because the
people he talks about like that book he
wrote uh UFO God or something like
that believe what I found at CERN they
didn't really build a building over CERN
though they just kind of dug it
out well that's it CERN is I mean the if
it was a [ __ ] disc s it's a big old
Circle yeah
but like there's places like there's
huge government I live near a huge
government building that you can't see
on
satellite um that's where they would put
something like that right they' put it
somewhere that you can't look you
wouldn't
look would they or would it be a Men in
Black situation would it be like the
would it be so secret it becomes movie
it movie thing where it's all of a
sudden it's the like the the largest
stadium in the world which has an extra
lift that no one goes in it's that's a
good thought it's a good thought I've
thought about that as well but I don't
think they would leave something like
that they just don't leave things like
just precaution they don't leave things
to happen stand but they do hide things
in plain sight like when we went to
Second Avenue Nashville and we looked at
one of the internet Hub backbones of the
United States that was a terrorist
attack location that nobody talks about
anymore yeah what did it look like it's
a building that is hidden on one of the
most popular streets in a
state that millions of people go by
millions of people go by this thing and
it is an incredibly secure facility
makes makes you think I mean we've
constantly talked for uh years now about
Denver Airport
and it's always been like yeah but it's
always been like it's it's where the
elites are going to go during the
apocalypse abely yeah but what if it's
not what if that was built over
something that's a good
one that's a good one that's a good
[Laughter]
one Cheyenne Mountain
yeah um right I'm I'm going to play this
video for you fortunately it was linked
from a different uh Twitter account the
uh the guy I that's on this I have seen
him on other T Tik toks and stuff right
so I'm sorry if I can't I can't give
credit to the original video uh but if
you see him then you know slap him on
the ass you do good
stuff um but yeah I found this I I hope
people can see see these things because
the first one's really obvious and the
second secondly slows down but I do
think it's the same thing I think it's
the same thing like film from three
different angles I'm going to show you
guys three very strange videos coming in
from Venezuela of people who were
recording a thunderstorm and
accidentally caught what looks like a
shadow figure descending very quickly
would say I find it weird he said shadow
figure and that almost made me skip the
video from the side this is really
strange
this
did you see that people at first thought
it was a raindrop but you can clearly
see behind the building what the heck is
that here is video number
two pay very close
attention did you see it something off
for the right hand side you see it
better did you see it now well let's
zoom in and slowmo the video you can
clearly see one object there
two
objects what is that guys and now here
is war the worlds man [ __ ] War of the
Worlds it's the first thing that came to
my mind yeah it is and like in War of
the Worlds the things were already
buried right the pilots ared they'
prepositioned
them uh let's get that clearly
Illuminati woman off the
uh Hey man she is okay to
go
um well you you when you said about the
um
the war the worlds thing that that
that's where my head went with it as
well because I'm [ __ ]
lunatic um I'm like 70% sure lizard
people
real of course it was the first place
they it's not zero% yeah what am I
supposed to think it's CGI [ __ ] no it
was aliens or
demons uh
[Music]
um but then I I thought to myself about
the about the War of the Worlds thing
and you know I'm more than interested in
a bit of predictor programming in in
medium
films and then I don't know why I hadn't
put thought of this sort this sort of
stuff
before but it's not like we don't have
like stories of
titans of giants fighting that are that
supposedly went back into the Earth back
underneath the Earth and I and again
with
no [ __ ] evidence behind it
because that's why we're here it's how
we do things yeah like what if what if
that's what it is what if these things
ride [ __ ] Titans you know we have we
have so much of that sort of stuff in
our pop culture they R like
me we have yeah then we're in trouble
Lee we're in real trouble
that's [ __ ] we suddenly are at the
bottom of the food
chain um I i' [ __ ] hate to find out
that my my like my tiny island is like a
[ __ ] Titan kneecap when it decides to
wake
up I mean you look at like what there's
a what is it there's a podcast out there
they were saying like the Nephilim are
clowns or they look like clowns with
bright fiery red hair and that's why we
have clowns today and he's got a whole
thing that explains it it's why if you
do a lot of gens or stuff you see the
spirits of these things that are still
out there and floating in the ether is
interesting I mean it's not the
strangest Thing by far I listen to uh
not at all but again you think about it
like a like we're talking Giants right
so a 12 foot entity with double rows of
teeth six
fingers and eats
people that's a
problem problem and now it can ride
lightning there is a there's a God
YouTube channel for if anyone listen if
anyone watches this YouTube channel um
and they they can go and like annoy the
uh comment section to try and get him to
come on uh there's a British guy with a
with a channel called it's it's either
uncovering conspiracy or understanding
conspiracy and he's come up with and
this is this is only slightly off topic
but it's because of what you were saying
about the the like giants with rows of
teeth and
stuff um he's done a lot of psychedelics
as he he
um he he explains he has uh he's
actually come to the conclusion that uh
we shouldn't be doing psychedelics and
we we the
um the spectrum of light that we see in
without altering it is um is for our own
benefit you know the the uh I can agree
to that it's not for
everybody um but he's also come up with
a really compelling theory that the
Nephilim are uh
or have sorry I should say clowns and
what we see what what what we have as
clowns are uh depictions of ancient
Nephilim oh that's what I was talking
about yeah yeah yeah yeah same dude yeah
oh yeah yeah uh and I I've never heard
anybody come do this and and maybe he's
just really good at explaining his
concept but his concept makes a lot of
sense when you listen to it I'd love to
have him on
yeah um I I was listening to another
show with him I think he did was he on
Greg cwoods um high side chats I think
something like that maybe
um but I am definitely gonna I've I've
tried hitting him up on his on one of
his videos um I have joined his telegram
so I'm going to try and hit him up there
in touch with them through telegram but
um yeah man
it's I I I I still believe there is like
a a much more
metaphysical aspect to this than like
just better made
spaceships predators that exist beyond
the wavelength of light that we can
see yeah no as far as psychedelics I
definitely agree with that I do not
think that they're for everyone I think
that you shouldn't take them
alone um not heavily and what you see is
actually
real yeah but in my experience anyway
there are some people they're better to
travel with than others and that's
Shaman genene man you find the right
group of people or the right person to
travel with you keep traveling with that
person and they'll keep you safe for
whatever reason however that works they
will keep you safe they probably don't
even know how it works but you'll be
fine as opposed to people I know that
have gone off to themselves and like
well I'm going to continue and [ __ ]
don't go right for them you
know
but yeah the um the crazy thing is about
this the depictions did like the they
had red hair yeah the like white white
colored
skin like
large fangy teeth yeah they're scary as
hell yeah it's see that's the thing the
the I think the um see that was the
crazy thing when I was listening to show
the other day I didn't realize that the
um it's documented that circus shows
were based on
freemasonic um
ceremonies you from from from the from
the first from the first circus acts and
when you think about you know with the
ring ring master and like the stuff
that's involved a worshipful master
makes [ __ ] sense um yeah it I I can't
let let me go back here and I will try
and I'll find out what I listen to
because it's if if anybody's interested
in this it's
probably um somebody likes our Rudolph
likes our color coordination
thly red and blue yes yeah yeah look at
us it's all it's like it was all planned
of
course
100% right we don't plan the shows just
the lighting um it's a guess the
villain uh was it use context
clues now it's a it's a interesting all
of it's I mean the further you go down
the the more you keep coming back to woo
in Old tales and stories and that there
is validity to these things that we have
dismissed long ago we clutched onto
science as our new religion and cast off
all of these
warnings and maybe we shouldn't have you
know I mean that's the I think the the
would the worst thing we can do is do
and
just work worship and what 100%
believe any people cuz all people are
fallible all people are you know are
going to be Jaded by their own interests
and that's the yeah the the like the
it's it's a cliche Now isn't it to say
like absolute power corrupts
absolutely but it's a fact I think I
think it's
just it's a magnifying glass of who you
are without limitations
right more money you get the more power
you get doesn't change you it just
allows you to be you with no
consequence you
know it's interesting speaking of that I
I've read the uh the woman and me
Britney's Britney Spears book have
you how how did that go sad oh my god
dude it's so sad it's so sad man like I
grew up poor in a really poor
town I well I grew up poor in a town
that was mostly poor like our town was
split either you own thousands of acres
and you had tons of tobacco and you had
unbelievable wealth or you were
like how many cans of you know of corn
do we have in the cabinet what can we do
with that you know I like I you say that
I can I can I if I come home and I want
to eat something which won't make me
fatter I can I can just reach for a can
of corn and eat that I like
it good for you it wasn't my
experience variety for me is the spice
of life you know same with kidney beans
actually I can eat a t of kidney beans
on their own it's it's hilarious like
my my upbringing and things I went
through my wife loves to call it my
childhood trauma and how it's affected
me in life life and uh she might not be
wrong about certain aspects I made a
stew for like today that you know it'll
cook for like 48 hours or whatever and
uh I fill it up to the top when I do it
with everything and she's like she's
like there's there will be enough you
know that right because I start getting
Twitchy about certain things like that
and um anyone who's gone hungry has
but where's it going yeah yeah yeah so
like girls like her that I knew like
Trailer part girl she's a trailer part
girl that's it now that I have that in
full context I understand her I
understand girls that were abused and
lived an incredibly poor life for most
of their life and how that keeps them
how they are and what
it it's it's very interesting she makes
a couple good points in her book that no
one really knows her because she's
always had to be someone and like while
she was under like care of for those 13
years holy [ __ ]
man like for two years she ate like
boiled chicken and canned corn and that
was all she was allowed to eat can we be
honest here and say that like free
Britney isn't what we'd call the most
grounded Britney actually I think it is
you need to read the book yes I think
she's fine I think that's who she is she
is a Barefoot she's the kind of girl who
goes Barefoot into a public toilet she's
the kind of girl that drinks [ __ ]
Virginia Slims with a Bud Light with no
bra on the edge of a boat while their
kids are you know half drunk at 15
swimming in the lake I know this people
I know these people man I know them
there's nothing wrong they're just
normal [ __ ] you
know middle class lower middle class
upper lower however you want to do that
people that just they just are I mean I
know them yeah I I tend to drift more
onto the side of that they absolutely
iced Britney and have replaced the
replaced her with a look like or clone I
don't think they can I think they do
that to some people I think that's her I
think they realized they they're
mistaken wax and Michael Jackson because
they just got this like one and done yep
on him whereas if they just keep the
Britney Spears look look alike being
whacked out on whatever is making a
dance [ __ ] naked with
knives um
then they Trailer part girl bro I've
seen that in real life yeah but how long
there it's okay right the you're you're
giving it the wrong context dude is she
worth millions and millions of dollars
and does she have all this Fame yes but
who she is is a poor little girl who
used to run through the woods barefoot
in Kentwood Louisiana that's but she was
famous as this is why I don't I don't
think this is the I think it's all fake
I think that's exactly who she is I
think everything else is fake how do you
stay that though like she she was picked
up as a child she was in Disney she was
in Disney as a child like like so she's
the smallest part of her life was living
in this poor
Place well see that's that's an
interesting thing because she talks
about that and that they didn't have
money all her money went to her family
and her dad was no no no she she has
traveled the world and like later over
no no later Life as a as a late teenager
not as a young girl growing up like she
talks about Mickey Mouse Club and like
dancing and stuff and like doing theater
and like when they wanted her sing what
money she made her dad drank or lost in
shitty businesses or gambled away but
can we let but what doesn't make sense
here is like we know the [ __ ] that went
went on in the Disney Club we know
what's going on there so that's
definitely happened to her and she's not
talking about that actually don't think
it did oh I no no no no chance Ryan go
dude he got [ __ ] chance did she not
end up in some sort of ceremony on a
checkered floor looking like eyes wide
[ __ ] shot a couple of times you
realize I've been in a ceremony on a
checkered floor yes and I think you [ __ ]
teenage
[Laughter]
Britain that would been
awesome my teenage heart would have
[ __ ] I wouldn't have
survived H I would not have I would not
have I would not have survived that
encounter but uh no man like
I think that's who she is I think she
is she's just a
normal no G say [ __ ] up she's just
normal white trash girl dude she's white
trash girl no I can't I can't I don't
believe any of this is normal I don't
believe any of them are normal I think
they are either they they she's [ __ ]
up all you know but I don't I don't
think it's just a case of like um like
standard abusey that I think these are
[ __ ] MK
MK out the [ __ ] was Zoo there's some
things hinted to in the book that she
says she doesn't talk about because it's
too much so it's just too much I'm not
going to talk about it she talks a
little bit about her time in the Mental
Hospitals and how they were forcing her
on all these different drugs and uh
forcing and the thing that was kind of
[ __ ] how many times did they give her
a puppy and then make her strangle it or
strangle it in front of her uh and the
thing is like they used their kids like
it was obvious psychological
manipulation they I mean it's
unbelievably apparent the book they
would leverage her kids against her
leverage like because they controlled
every aspect of her life they denied her
legal rights and information that she
should have been provided with um they
just denied her phone access they would
deny her food they would deny her sleep
they would deny her any choices about
herself her work when and where she went
when she got up what she were like she
had no control over her life and if she
tried to Fig up they'd [ __ ] strap her
to a bed and send her to the
hospital like you're just like [ __ ]
Hospital Illuminati programming room
there may be truth to that that cuz she
actually talks about an unnamed
celebrity uh psychiatrist that came out
and like was key and [ __ ] ruin in her
World um and how all her friends kind of
avoid her and if you think about it like
was the James uh he's from [ __ ]
England fat guy thinks he's a lot
funnier than he is likes to see oh
[ __ ] oh my God James cor Cordon cor
Cordon yeah that guy that guy so he's
he's kind of famous for this or at least
in my mind like the reason he holds any
celebrity status in my mind is so he
would did carpool karaoke and he had
Britney Spears and you could tell it was
very awkward between him but she talks
about like during that whole time
everything she did she was [ __ ]
forced to do there was no choice no
choice you were doing this 100% or
there's going to be
punishment and uh there's no way he and
whatever TV channel he worked for did
not know what the [ __ ] [ __ ] was going on
because the one thing that's apparent is
everybody knew what they were doing to
her and nobody did
[ __ ] the uh I mean cordon's another one
like he but then afterwards he talked
about like she he so his and other
people's souls to get where he is oh
yeah well there's there's a part in her
book it's a different I don't know man I
don't know if it's even we could do a
show on it but it would be have to be a
rock fin show and I would feel really
weird about doing it but
maybe we should because there is
something that links like Britney and
Justin Timberlake and Lady Gaga and a
lot of these other celebrities like
later on in life they start talking
about [ __ ] that they did that re Britney
recently talked about that we're not
talking about on YouTube um that
happened or they did or they went along
with and all of a sudden everybody's
careers [ __ ] go crazy right it goes
amazing well you know I doubled down and
I had to work Britney not so much it
broke her [ __ ]
mind I think that a huge part of what
snapped her but her
think say the certain celebrities you
say
that
um I I think or Orlando Bloom he he
walks so close to the precipice of
explaining what's happened to him you
know did
the uh what's his name
the guy from
Transformers yeah you know I like him I
think he's great great actor yeah the
but I me mind his career has took a nose
dive I dude his dad was a pedophile you
know that he was a registered sex
offender yep who was a biker gang who
was in a biker gang um the like the I'll
put Britney Spears in that category as
well some of some celebrities of Kanye
West that seemed to get to a point where
they they can't function very well in
what's going what's going
on um his mom died died during surgery
and I think there's there's obviously a
window where people like a Rick ofas and
a Mal Gibson
can uh can inhabit
where they because they because the
their
ability uh and talent can make the
machine so much money they are allowed
to exist outside of it as as they just
shut the [ __ ] up um whereas I don't
think actors have that talent because
there's so many actors that's the thing
there's so there's so many actors and
they are it's we celebrate them but
they're they're kind of the weakest
historically it's not a position you
celebrate no they're the not it was
always a look down on profession yeah
they're the weakest part of the chain
essentially because like Tom Hanks you
could have cast anybody in big and that
would have been a great film yeah you
know what I mean and I'd argue I'm not a
big Tom Hanks fan so i' I'd argue
probably would have been better but um I
I don't like him the
um the thing
with with with the with with some of
these people though that don't have that
don't seem to be able to the the music
industry doesn't seem to have the people
that can exist on the outside you are
either in or you're
out it doesn't seem to be the same thing
so what is it Tom McDonald talks about
that like record contracts they talk
about you know universal imper petu
forever and always like Intergalactic
like what kind of [ __ ] contract are
you signing here man this is music right
it is weird it is weird the whole
thing's [ __ ] weird the world is weird
the more you look at the world really
look at the world the more bizarre it is
yep you know the more bizarre it is
is it I don't know just trying to get
through it's it it why are we giving the
checkered floor a bad come on guys come
on it's not that bad what are you saying
this just talking Rudolph
is I've also been on a checkered floor
never seen naked yeah I didn't see any
naked chicks either I miss I'll just
keep towards the east your
eyes uh they said the scales he fall
from his eyes then the uh a traveling
man Trel Philip BL brought Tom Cruz
there like Tom Cruz is worth an entire
Rock fin show his
own he
is I don't know man he's a mystery I
part of me wants to feel bad for him and
then part of me thinks
like the [ __ ] have you done you know
like it goes to the ID wi shut what what
did they cut out of that movie yeah I
think the Eyes Wide Shut was an
unbelievably interesting insight into
like if you research who Nicole Kidman
is and who her family is and then you
look at Tom Cruz and and who he is I
don't think Tom Cruz is a bad guy I
don't uh I think that he's caught up in
a cult and he [ __ ] loves it and it
definitely insulates him I think he's a
closeted
homosexual um definitely much like um
Kevin
spy no he's not closeted he not anymore
not anymore he he used that as an escape
card like the no he keeps them in the
closet my bad my bad
allegedly is it if they can just quit
getting hit by cars somebody could
testify it's a real problem over there I
at the the time when that was happening
like the
I remember the he did three happened
three years in a row did it where he put
the videos out and then someone died the
day after yeah something like that yeah
and interesting number in itself I
remember doing the uh doing M AIO with
my friend
Stuart and we I think we did it the day
before Christmas Eve was when we we
record our Christmas episode and we were
joking about it on on the day for
Christmas Eve oh well Kevin Spacey's
going to put video out tomorrow and kill
somebody again allegedly and
H do it he had it done Christmas day
comes around spy's dropped the video
we're like he's done it a [ __ ]
again and then lo and behold as like the
stars would align and somebody that was
obviously wrongly accusing him of sexual
assault died
wrongly accusing him obviously
obviously if you said so on TV it's got
to be a fact no so I think I think the
eyes wide Shep
movie is interesting because like the
scene where what is it the the guy who's
working at the hotel and Tom Cruz
apparently U that scene was shot like
all day for days for
days and what they were trying to
recreate it found afterwards Stanley KCK
there was some
famous gay porn movie that opens that
way and like that's what they were
recreating and there was apparently a
lot of scenes like that like if you
guess if
you're into into that that genre of
entertainment I guess you would
recognize things from the film that he's
doing so it's like wait you I think I
think the film you're trying to
reference is stiffed upper lip
six I guess
I'm GNA of your
expertise but uh like they were they
were trying to charge it with like
sexual energy and whatnot and like again
if you watch eyes wide shut all the way
to the end and the conversation that Tom
Cruz and Nicole kimman are having don't
make it does not make sense for the
movie to end up there and the fact that
their little girl walks off with the two
men that Tom Cruz walked into
that party behind because you remember
there was the butler who escorted him in
and there were two old men in front of
them that were walking down the hallway
if you go and look again there's that
same tall guy that looks a lot like the
Butler and you see the back of these two
old men's Head who looks like the two
old dudes from the thing and the little
girls in front of them and they walk
away from the FAA Schwarz or whatever I
think that was supposed to be like an
FAA Schwarz toy store that she just
walks off and then they're like it's
what I feel like we're missing things
from this movie yeah that didn't make
sense I wonder if it's out there I
wonder like the allegedly not
the
I I hope so I hope I hope it's they see
that's the crazy thing about that and it
just shows that there is something in
there that somebody doesn't want people
a to see because the idea that you could
have 25
minutes of a deleted C of deleted scenes
from a cubric
film that haven't been put out on a like
a remaster did collector's edition is
[ __ ] stupid dude the the fact that
the way they did it after he died you
know what I mean like how they because
he had total control and they were
obviously fighting him on this and
they're like we gotta [ __ ] kill this
guy and cut these minutes out it's all
that's where we're at now he's refusing
to play ball anymore all right
done
um yeah man hey we got 63 people
watching be great if everyone liked this
video and shared it they think I don't
know how many likes we got at the minute
I I know we're we're coming to the end
so people should I don't think it's
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um oh gross I just did an a I just did
an inst reinstall of my uh of my my
operating system and so I rown the web
browser that means nothing's on dark
mode anyone that doesn't like when dark
mode is available if you don't select
that you're a [ __ ]
psychopath I never go dark mode
facts
um on the video we have 39 likes so it's
pretty good we've got over half but we
could literally have 61 likes on it
right now so yeah easily just hit the
like come if you're on Apple TV I
forgive you because it's tricky who's
watching us on Apple tv nobody is
watching us on Apple TV I all I what
YouTube on is matal in the living
room you gotta make everything
complicated it's why you have computer
issues I had computer issues
today which is
weird because I don't have computer
issues on this
rig uh we'll see no well I mean probably
need to stop talking about the
Department of
energy I was I was completely taken out
from uh for a whole like what two shows
cuz because my computer [ __ ] the bed
that was so strange as well like the um
for like obviously like i' I've moved
over to Linux for um my desktop PCS
because you like to be different I I
like to be I like to be secure Dave like
to be secure you're not there's no such
thing you have a cell phone okay there's
cell phone right in front of me anyway
what kind of what kind of cell phone is
it
it's Apple did you know that Apple phone
can map your entire home it Maps it maps
in real time the area you walk around to
like 50 feet yeah it's crazy this this
is the funny thing I get like people are
uh people people were using that as a
this is where we can't have 5G is
because they'll be able to Ping all the
devices and map and map
everywhere why could didn't you do that
with fgy you [ __ ] think about it they
do it with Wi-Fi yeah it's just I
boggles my tiny mind like the only I I
remember I remember 3G was going to kill
us still may still May yeah man no this
has been fun it's been a good talk uh we
bounced around a lot uh Steph was great
I'd love to get B back on we had that
little bit of a Time issue we'll fig
yeah hopefully I I'll speak to the guy
hopefully we can we can do like a proper
like get him on for a proper show with
Ollie as well so OE can say hello um
olle uh
is I mean you never truly recover from
AIDS but he's doing all right he's doing
all
right well you know it's key is him
getting those carrots they just as long
as they get in his
body it's all that matters but yeah I
mean he's got he he had has most of the
um like incapacitating objects removed
from his rectum now um
the I'm I'm just gladly stopped at the
bat I haven't heard this according to
cu's cameraman who filmed all his movies
including IW shot he said IW sh movie
that played contained none of the scenes
he
filmed the company refilmed it after
Kubrick's death w
wow that's crazy M if you if you can
find
a a link or something to whenever that's
done and either if if if it takes you
time just post it in the comments on
this video and I will find it don't
don't maybe don't do it in the chat now
because I'll have to go P go through all
the chat but put it in the
comments after the video yeah no you can
you can put it in the comments now he
can put it in the comments now it won't
turn up turn up in the live chat but the
um yeah I'd be very interested in that
because like I said the the idea that
you could I mean that that is so much
money like there's so many cubric fans
out there like I've got I've got a half
I've got a half finished [ __ ] cubric
[ __ ] sleeve you know who knows the
truth
right what this daughter two no the two
actors I don't think his daughter knows
the two
actors Tom Cruz and Nicole
Kidman they have well yeah they
have um they do have to know they
because it's told through their
lens especially Tom Cruz Tom Cruz knows
what was left
out curious maybe that's a drum crazy oh
Professor Simon covered it in a video a
while back I will go and look for for it
thank you very
much
um yeah
it's like like I said I I just can't get
past the money thing uh
the you're talking Millions like
millions of
pounds it's
you it's like taking
the
frame of a um
like like one of the one of the great
painters like a [ __ ] Leonardo or
something like that it's like taking the
frame off one of his paintings to find
there's a whole extra bit of the
painting behind the frame or the or or
the painting folds out and it's like
much larger like half half the size
again and then go no one really wants to
see this who would who would pay to see
it extra bits of this and then just
covering it all back up and sticking it
on the wall but then telling people oh
there's extra painting behind that but
you don't want to see it don't want to
see
it uh yeah I
um uh oh look up Christopher Lee talking
about missing scenes from one of his
movies about the occult I saw that I'll
definitely do that for yeah um
Christopher Le was a good guy I like
Christopher Lee he got me into
vampires T is like some of the first
horror films I love a horror film Buffy
Buffy got me into vampires the uh Buffy
got into vampires Buffy The V
sler the movie the movie was [ __ ]
yeah the movie but I mean let like
considering uh considering she was
supposed to be a Vampire Slayer she
[ __ ] at least two several several yeah
yeah she was slaying all
right she was WAP before WAP was a thing
I
guess uh oh m mongle is gonna say
something just before we close out like
Dave uh will like the Prof Professor s's
video series on the qu Mass films it
involves secret old religions followed
by the elites I don't need anyone to
tell me what I do when I go to church
it's profess Simon the guy that stew
interviewed I I didn't know even covered
stuff like
this well I'll go back and have a
look so yeah interesting oh well guys H
thanks for hanging out with us on this
Sunday evening I hope you enjoyed it
thank you for Simon for coming on the
show earlier the link to his podcast is
in the description you should definitely
go and watch it the last interview he
did was with the British intelligence
guy's name escap Apes
me Nick Pope he had he had on on his
last
episode what yeah the M Herrera one was
very interesting and the one he did
about Peru was also very interesting and
that's how I found his podcast uh I just
scratched my ear rather grossly then for
a live stream sorry about that you need
to sniff it sniff it
now oh yeah but she didn't sniff it
that's that's where the real sensation
um yeah other than that like it was a
good show thanks everybody thanks Dave
it's it's my invisible boob squeeze I'm
so bad at this B we're gonna do uh put
together a video investigation of
whatever we find you know if I find the
jetpack if I find miners with jetpacks
we will film it and uh we will tell you
we got miners with jetpacks and we'll
we'll we'll we'll report that so
whatever we find we're going to report
if we find nothing if we find nothing
are maybe maybe the villagers are
completely exaggerating this whole
scenario who knows I mean the only way
really know is to go up that River
that's it that's the only way we're ever
going to find out so that's what we
intend to
do
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I'm genuinely pulling for the miners
with backpacks because that would be the
most [ __ ] absurd thing to possibly
come come out of that it's genuinely a
third world minor with a half million
dollar jetpack trying to scare people
with a [ __ ] led belt on do you know
what it makes me think of if all of a
sudden we've got Miners and jetpacks is
that Joe Biden's gonna have to up his
game dude if we have Miners and Jetpack
we're living in not Alex Jones World
we're living in a [ __ ] James Bond
[Laughter]
film I was not prepared for this a cult
I can handle Miners and jet ha the [ __ ]
is this stop who God needs to stop
clicking the remote pick a
theme well I I said a joke the other day
I said like the ever since the the UFO
the UFO started coming to light it's
like Jesus uh Jesus had to go and take a
pest break and the only person to take
over was Michael
Bay that would be terrible his film one
the films are terrible too everything's
getting blown up for no
reason
incredibly High casualties yeah that'd
be the worst outcome ever
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