# Archive - Collaboration Cafe

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This note is an archive of previous Collaboration Cafes, which you can learn more about here: https://hackmd.io/@turingway/collaboration-cafe
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Thank you for joining the _Turing Way_'s online Collaboration Cafe! Collaboration Cafes are our community's regular community call for collaboration and coworking.
* Interested in learning more about The Turing Way community?
* Interested in reproducible, collaborative, and responsible research?
* Interested in contributing to our guides?

## Wondering where to start?

Here are a few suggestions for good first contributions:

- Fix a typo in [the book](https://the-turing-way.netlify.com) and/or [repository](https://github.com/alan-turing-institute/the-turing-way).
- Flag the unclear or duplicated information in the book by opening an [issue on the GitHub](https://github.com/alan-turing-institute/the-turing-way/issues).
- Fix an [old issue](https://github.com/alan-turing-institute/the-turing-way/issues) or comment on the the [pull requests](https://github.com/alan-turing-institute/the-turing-way/pulls).
- Write your personal experience of reproducible research in this [google form](https://goo.gl/forms/akFqZEIy2kxAjfZW2).
- See more info on the GitHub: https://github.com/alan-turing-institute/the-turing-way/blob/master/project_management/online-collaboration-cafe.md

## 1 November

## Check-in and icebreaker

**Name + Pronouns + Name a habit you are proud of having/practicing (inspired by [this thread on slack](https://theturingway.slack.com/archives/C01BUPURLAW/p1698770153459519)) + an emoji ([emoji cheatsheet](https://github.com/ikatyang/emoji-cheat-sheet/blob/master/README.md))**

*(Remember that this is a public document. You can use a pseudonym if you'd prefer.) Use the 🤫 emoji if you would not like to be included in our public archive*
* Anne + she/her +
* Esther + she, her + I try to exercise every day
* Vicky + she/her + I kept my sourdough starter alive for 4 years till I had to get a new one recently :cry:
* Kirstie + she/her + I'm trying to drink more water.... it really helps when I do :sweat_smile:, I also try to finish each day appreciating someone who cares about me - usually by the end of the day I feel very tired and overwhelmed + :tropical_drink:
* Emma Karoune + she/her and +1 to keeping kids alive! - i've managed 14 years, no time for anything else.
* Johanna: taking time to jointly sit and stare against the wall with my cat :cat:
* Chris + he/him + daily journaling and morning walk with my wife + 📓
* Gabin + He/Him + a glass of warm water, first thing in the morning
* David L-J + he/him + daily dev diary up to day 76 :jack_o_lantern:
* Sara + she/her: 0 habits as new mum.... so I guess I'm just proud to keep my toddler alive!
* Batool + she/her
* Fran + he/him + staring at a blank wall for 20 minutes and letting my mind wander freely

### "Community Chats" Schedule
_While Collaboration Cafes hold themed break-out rooms for projects that community members are working on, we are trialling themed "Community Chats" in the main room. These chats may be community or research-related: whatever you want to discuss or present! Feel free to join in without any pressure to participate - and remember, you can always drop by anytime, no sign-ups needed!✨_

| Date | Theme | Discussion Lead | Host |
| -------- | -------- | -------- | ----- |
| 4 October | Open room - catch-up | N/A | Anne |
| 18 October | Open room - catch-up | Kirstie (TBD) | Anne |
| 1 November | Book Dash Preparation | TBD | Anne |
| 15 November | Cancelled due to Book Dash | N/A | N/A |
| 6 December | Governance discussion (TBD) | Kirstie (TBD) | Anne |
| 20 December | Cancelled due to Holidays | N/A | N/A |

Possible topics (feel free to add your own ideas! :sparkles:)
* JupyterBook vs Quarto (Infrastructure?)
* CARE Principles & Indigenous Data Governance ([this issue!](https://github.com/the-turing-way/the-turing-way/issues/3223))
* Truthworthy & Ethical Assurance? (to be confirmed) - lead by Chris
* Github Course
* TODO
* Aske folks to sign up in advance before the workshop (Anne)
* New Slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1RY7JDjrSx2DizxtBKRMcqPd9OFneL7f3IYDv4c_vHxY/edit#slide=id.g526267be46_0_606
* Update all slides - Batool, Johanna
* Update Etherpad:

### Advertise and promote your event or anything exciting you're working on. ✨

* New chapter on the Environmental Impact of Digital Research is live at https://the-turing-way.netlify.app/ethical-research/activism/activism-env-impact
*
*

#### Mermaid in hackMD Demo

mind maps

mindmap
    root((mindmaps))
        this is cool!
        )cloudy(
            rain
            rain
            rain

timelines

timeline
    title timeline of things
    section phase 1
    2023-11-01 : do a thing : and another
    2023-11-10 : yet another thing
    

## Breakout rooms: Topic proposals and notes

*While no sign-ups are required to attend Collaboration Cafe, if you have an idea for a topic you'd like to discuss in a breakout room, please add it below and put your name next to it. If you like one of the topics that are already suggested, please add your name next to that one. For more information about breakout rooms see [the description on GitHub](https://github.com/alan-turing-institute/the-turing-way/blob/master/project_management/online-collaboration-cafe.md#breakout-rooms).*

* Main Room:
* Book Dash Prep - onboarding
* Licensing Social Session - Richard
* Git Good Course Pre
* Data Protection and Openness
* Fairness and Health Equity (in context of AI and digital twins)
* Book Dash Planning
* Academic Industry Collaborations Room
* Quiet Coworking
* Extra Room 1
* Extra Room 2

### Link List ✨

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### Notes from Discussion

## Agenda

| Time | Activity |
| ---- | -------- |
| 10 mins | Introductions and Needs for Rooms |
| 20 mins | 🍅 1st Pomodoro session |
| 5 mins | ☕️ Break - **not enforced** |
| 20 mins | 🍅 2nd Pomodoro session |
| 10 mins | ☕️ Break - **enforced: 1hr mark** |
| 20 mins | 🍅 3rd Pomodoro session |
| 5 mins | ☕️ Break - **not enforced** |
| 20 mins | 🍅 4th Pomodoro session |
| 5 mins | 👋 Wrap up: celebrations, reflections and future directions |
| 5 mins | 👋 Close |

### Pomodoro timer for this session
https://cuckoo.team/collabcafe

### Feedback at the end of the call

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## Host/Co-host a future call

*Have you previously participated in a Collaboration Café? Sign up to host or co-host a future call.*
We have posted guidance and resources for the chairs/hosts in our chapters: https://the-turing-way.netlify.app/community-handbook/coworking/coworking-collabcafe.html.

*Name / Slack handle / Contact information *
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## Oct 1

## Check-in and icebreaker

**Name + Pronouns + Share an interesting discussion or conversation you've had this week! + an emoji ([emoji cheatsheet](https://github.com/ikatyang/emoji-cheat-sheet/blob/master/README.md))**
*(Remember that this is a public document. You can use a pseudonym if you'd prefer.) Use the 🤫 emoji if you would not like to be included in our public archive*
* Anne + she/her + We had an interesting discussion at my team's meeting today about our research ethics process, which is making me wonder about others' experiences here! + :cat2:
* Richard J. Acton + + getting researhers to annotate their microscopy images well when they don't see the imediate benefits + :zany_face:
* Kirstie W + she/her + We submitted a grant application to the Essential Open Source Software for Science call by CZI and there were loads of great discussions about who the "users" are and who the "stakeholders" are and how we can balance leadership with community engagement + :smile_cat:
* Sophia + she/her + Links between TMJ (joint in your jaw) and BVD (vision disorder) which is also linked with dyslexia - super cool chat with dental people + :ghost:
* Malvika Sharan (she/her) + interesting discussions everywhere - most recent one is on Ethics process and the practice of that in day-to-day collaboration. + 🚧
* Emma Karoune + she/her + been chatting a lot this week about differences between different research infrastructure roles + :smiley:
* Ale (she/her)
* Jim + he/him +
* Lucy + she/her + discussions on how often to DOI model code that is ever-evolving and contributing to many publications + :fallen_leaf:
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* Arielle + she/her + had a fun chat with someone about open source contributions and why relying on GitHub's mosaic is too limiting
* [name=Kirstie] Do you have a link to the GitHub mosaic? I'm not sure I know what that is?
* [name=Arielle] the little green squares which show different contributions on your profile! They don't capture all the different ways people contribute
* [name=Kirstie] Oh YES - of course!
* [name=Jim] But I _really_ want mine to look busy
*
* Rowan + they/them + the launch of our annual public sector analytical coding survey!
* Bastian

### Link List ✨

* https://the-turing-way.netlify.app/reproducible-research/licensing - starting link, and
* https://code.librehq.com/ots/dosp-research/-/blob/main/notes.md
* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37745772
* https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/physics-of-agi/articles/whos-harry-potter-making-llms-forget-2/
* https://academic.oup.com/book/44727
* chokepoint capitalism
* what if we could reimagine copyright? https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt1q1crjg
* Blood in the machine

### Notes room discussion (18 October)
* Practitioner Hub: Superbloom introduction
* LS: how to make a case to open more Product Management roles in an organisation.
* EF: Sustainable plan process -> value contribution upstream process
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* RH: I’d also be really interested in seeing a business case for more product managers
* Project management vs Community Management, can people be transtition into new roles, is consultancy an option for transitions.
* When we are hiring short or long term do they bring the skills or willing to learn
* Skills mapping and values setting
* Aspects of open sources are not always open source valued or not willing to learn
* RH: retention problems, people are becoming product managers. RSE are becoming Product managers

**Notes from main room discussion** (4 October)
* Practitioners Hub Notes
* UX/Fruto workshop:
* RS: Dealing with prioritisation of stakeholders, how to make them feel embedded in the pipeline.
* LS: UX workflow was new introduction, was useful in doing interviews. It would have been good to know where we can bring it back - was useful in case studies.
* RH: Had some awareness of users and user-experience, but had not formally seen the techniques discussed. Good to learn how to do it well. In 1:1, used them to talk about general transformation and progress of organisation. Had some grassroots plans for implementing ideas, but it could go only so far. It was interesting to hear how to get high level support in the organisation to influence people down. Specifically talked about network that RH runs, where UX can be increased. There was enough time to do the homework between 1 and 2nd workshop. Was an interesting and useful workshop.
* SH: We want to support innovators in building open source tools (enable the use rather then building). It was useful to have frameworks to see systems level.
* AAA: Sometimes I felt the energy was low. But the curriculum was very good.
* Would love unstructured in person meeting to exchange some knowledge that we have that others are interested in. +1+1+1
* Business development: RedHat
* Licensing: OpenUK?
* Demo of each others work
* Skills gaps analysis workshop:
* LS: Most relevant to what LS is doing in skills development
* SH: AI SKills Roadmap: Pool is not there to bring under who to bring to fill the gap. People are struggling to find the skills needed (like coding skills, domain knowledge - like energy specific ones) -- how can we expand the tool to design courses like masters/acrreditation.
* DCE and clinical AI in the Turing are looking to get their curriculum accreditated.
* how to keep the curriculum up to date for the fast changing landscape for AI/DS.
* Example from UCL: Energy and Analytics (work very closely with active stakeholders)
* RH: We talked about people in uni, but there are not enough people who we can hire, and even if we do we probably can't afford them.
* How can we better engage with people and retain them. how can they be trained while in job.
* Building a sense of Psychological safety for people who are not used to not knowing things. How to make it easy to make mistakes.
* Data Science can be very elitist group, we can do many in person training. It's not about recruitment but provide resources that they can be upskilled (outside uni). people with do
* Privacy

* About the conversation about Analytics: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f40-change-request-privacy-preserving-telemetry-for-fedora-workstation-system-wide/85320
* I think we should try more GDPR compliant analytics platforms, https://plausible.io/
* https://github.com/the-turing-way/the-turing-way/pull/2998
*

## September 17 - Check-in and icebreaker
* Anne + she/her + Seattle, UK today (here for a family wedding!) + pumpkin pie + :pie: :sparkles:
* Kirstie + she/her + Programme Director for Tools, Practices and Systems at the Turing Institute and founder of The Turing Way + London, UK + pumpkin spice latte - I'm that person :sweat_smile: + :maple_leaf:
* Ale + she/her + The Turing Way, Research Project Manager + soups :chipmunk:
* Sarah + she/her + Skills officer at the Turing + currently near Naples + hot apple cider (not the alcoholic kind) + :apple: :coffee:
* Lucy + she/her + Scientific Data Assistant, Polar Data Center + Helsinki today! + Souuup or in Finland Korvapuustit (cinammon buns) + :mushroom:
* Vera + she/her + Head of Skills at Turing + everything speculaas :netherlands:
* David + he/him + Research project manager + arroz con gurumelos + Edinburgh :mushroom: :rice:
* Alejandro + he/him + Research Fellow, Turing + London, UK + Pumpkin muffins + :jack_o_lantern:
* Rowan + they/them + Data Scientist at Office for National Statistics + roast dinner or casserole :stew:
* Gabin + he/him + Senior Research Community Manager + Birmingham + mangoes in all shapes, colours (Sept-Oct)
* Batool Almarzouq + RPM at the Turing
* Melissa
* Arielle
* Danny
* Esther
* Fran
* Hari

## Breakout rooms: Topic proposals and notes

*While no sign-ups are required to attend Collaboration Cafe, if you have an idea for a topic you'd like to discuss in a breakout room, please add it below and put your name next to it. If you like one of the topics that are already suggested, please add your name next to that one. For more information about breakout rooms see [the description on GitHub](https://github.com/alan-turing-institute/the-turing-way/blob/master/project_management/online-collaboration-cafe.md#breakout-rooms).*

* Main Room
* Hour one: Speaker Form Review (David, Anne)
* Hour two: Team Infrastructure Roals
* OpenFest: https://figshare.shef.ac.uk/articles/media/Openfest_2023_online_symposium_session_recording_Reshaping_Open_Research_Infrastructures/24162378?backTo=/collections/OpenFest_2023_recordings/6843375
* csv,Conf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lelqaG7GktM
* https://journal.trialanderror.org/pub/manifesto-rewarding-recognizing/release/1
* https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RTBGryGwXebJniTjeHqr5fuuHMSc8vx5IRP5DyVlwGg/edit?usp=sharing - draft proposal big team science conference
* Goals
* Changing the institution you are a part of
* Series of white papers
* Practitioners Hub: Skills Gap analysis (Lucy, Raphael, Rowan, Sarah Nietopsi, Stephen Haben, Vera Matser)
* Translation & Localisation (Batool Almarzouq, Kirstie, Melissa)
* Environment & Sustainability (Alejandro)
* Reviewed [WIP Environmental Impact of Digital Research Chapter](https://github.com/the-turing-way/the-turing-way/pull/3117)
* Approved
* Quiet Coworking
* Extra Room 1 - Mushrooms
* Extra Room 2 - Soup

## September 6 - Check-in and icebreaker

**Name + Pronouns + Short Introduction + Location + What's the best piece of advice you've ever been given? + an emoji ([emoji cheatsheet](https://github.com/ikatyang/emoji-cheat-sheet/blob/master/README.md))**
*(Remember that this is a public document. You can use a pseudonym if you'd prefer.) Use the 🤫 emoji if you would not like to be included in our public archive*

* Alden (she/her) - Turing Institute - London - :thinking_face:
* Cami(they/them) Perfection is the enemy of the good.
* Chris (He/Him) - Alan Turing Institute (Remote from Bristol, UK) - "Comparison is the thief of joy!" 🥳
* Bastian (he/him) - Alan Turing Institute - A month in the laboratory can often save an hour in the library - :baby_chick:
* Anne (she/her) - Alan Turing Institute (also remote from Bristol, UK today!) - Wear sunscreen (and this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTJ7AzBIJoI)
* Gabin (He/Him) - ATI (Remote from West Midlands, UK) - Time is a resource that doesn't belong to us
* Emma (she/her) - Alan Turing Institute - Portsmouth, UK - Your PhD does not have to be perfect, it just has to be done!
* Jen (she/her) - Turing / Research Application Management (RAM) team / always wear sunscreen!
* Alejandro (he/him) - Alan Turing Institute - London, there's always hope
* Esther (she/her) - In academia, don't work less than full time because you'll do a fulltime job but for less pay..
* Cari (she/her) - King's College London / Turing Enrichment - Try not to say yes to everything!!
* Arielle (she/her) - Turing (but Boston, USA based) - If everything is urgent then nothing is urgent + "work for yourself before you work for others"
* Ali (he/him) - Sports journalism/Law student - Keep moving forward
* Alex (she/her) -Turing (London) -
* Andrea (she/her)
* Maya Anderson-Gonzalez (she/her) - don't wear socks to bed :P

Possible topics (feel free to add your own ideas! :sparkles:)
* Github organisation discussion - what do we need?
* New TTW Website Testing
* Posit vs Jupyterbook
* Platform gardening

### Advertise and promote your event or anything exciting you're working on. ✨

* Newsletter from last month - it has lots of information and opportunities! Also a great resource to identify places you can engage with each other: https://tinyletter.com/TuringWay/letters/book-dash-celebrations-upcoming-events-and-welcoming-our-gsoc-2023-intern :love_letter:
*
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## Breakout rooms: Topic proposals and notes

*While no sign-ups are required to attend Collaboration Cafe, if you have an idea for a topic you'd like to discuss in a breakout room, please add it below and put your name next to it. If you like one of the topics that are already suggested, please add your name next to that one. For more information about breakout rooms see [the description on GitHub](https://github.com/alan-turing-institute/the-turing-way/blob/master/project_management/online-collaboration-cafe.md#breakout-rooms).*

* Main room:
* Streaming "Restorative/Transformative Data Science" by Catherine D'Ignazio: https://datajusticelab.org/2023/06/18/data-justice-conference-live-stream/
* Public peer review of new book: https://mitpressonpubpub.mitpress.mit.edu/counting-feminicide
* Anne: Collating notes from conference – https://hackmd.io/@aleesteele/data-justice-notes
* Rooms:
* DCE Coworking - Jen & Gabin
* Stakeholder Mapping - experiment to find the best way to
* RAM <> CM how they could benefit from each other's experience
* Urban analytics
* Open Science Conference talk +1 (Alex)
* Fireside Chat
* Practitioners Hub (Cami & Alex)
* LegalRoom for Ali & Cari to chat about Law implications?
* Assurance Room: to explore where guidance on assurance could be integrated into TTW (e.g. adding to ethics chapter) and possibly how to develop a FAIR audit for the [Trustworthy and Ethical Assurance platform](https://github.com/alan-turing-institute/AssurancePlatform).
* Quiet Coworking Room
* [name=Arielle] Yes please!
* [name=Bastian] + 1 :crocodile:
* [name=Alden] first half (then a room with Jen)
* [name=Maya]
* ~~A room for translation team, w Batool and Melissa. ~~ no longer needed!
* Data Feminism room - will use extra room

* Format
* 20 min
* 5 min
* 20 min

### Link List ✨

* https://datajusticelab.org/2023/06/18/data-justice-conference-live-stream/
* https://www.ucl.ac.uk/anthropology/people/academic-and-teaching-staff/daniel-miller/polymedia-towards-new-theory-digital-media
* https://web.karisma.org.co/
* https://mitpressonpubpub.mitpress.mit.edu/counting-feminicide
*

### Feedback at the end of the call

* [name=Ale]: I like it, better to have one mandatory break and 2 optional ones
* [name=Kirstie] Ditto Ale - I also really like trying to have the main break at the top of the hour because _hopefully_ it makes it easier for folks to join at the start of that second hour.
* [name=Esther] What Ale + Kirstie said :)

## Check-in and icebreaker

**Name + Pronouns + What one thing from your work that you are thinking about and would you like to share? + an emoji ([emoji cheatsheet](https://github.com/ikatyang/emoji-cheat-sheet/blob/master/README.md))**
*(Remember that this is a public document. You can use a pseudonym if you'd prefer.) Use the 🤫 emoji if you would not like to be included in our public archive*
* Anne + she/her + Coming back from a few weeks of holidays, and read [this article](https://readymag.com/readymag/readme/evolution) on the flight back about how we digest written information. Super interesting! :beach_with_umbrella:
* Shern + he/his + ~~Writing lectures and sneaking chemicals into the lecture theater for live demos without alerting the smoke detectors / legal risk people~~ omg CHEMISTRY NOBEL PRIZE for [quantum dots](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-04/nobel-prize-in-chemistry-recipients-announced/102935908) woooo that's gonna be a slide
* Kirstie W + she/her + I learned about a "manual of we" which I learned about yesterday from Jen Ding! + :family:
* An example: https://provocations.darkmatterlabs.org/dmls-manual-of-us-d41b1c235869
* Malvika Sharan + she/her Catching up with emails after travels. Lots of catch up with folks too.
*
* Batool + she/her + thinking about how to prep for few events in October.
*
* Jen + she/her + not quite work... but I recently learned about a [company](https://www.zelp.co/) that is building nose masks for cows to reduce their methane emission (their primary method is breathed out believe it or not!)
* [name=Shern] there's an [Australian startup](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-02/sam-elsom-feed-cows-seaweed-to-tackle-climate-change/102535734) that wants to feed cows seaweed juice to remediate their gas too
* [name=Jen] adorable! i wonder if they like the taste of seaweed...
* [name=Sophie] and then there was the cow VR stories a few years back (eg https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50571010), poor cows, all wired up in all respects
* [name=Jen] that looks super uncomfortable for them but also adorable :laughing:
* Gabin + He/Him + Thinking about Ai for decarbonisation virtual Centre website we need to quickly set up.
* Lucy + she/her + working on a penguin project, processing data who walk across a bridge which weighs them + :penguin:
* [name=Jen] if there are images or videos of this in action, I'd love to see them!
* Ale + she/her + trying to find a design freelancerPra
* Rowan + they/them + balancing code efficiency vs readability :confounded:
* Shyam + he/him + working on getting back to work from holiday where I am still in spirit...
* Emma Karoune + she/her + mostly trying thinking about community building this week as I have been writing a grant application for establishing a new community
* Sophie + she/her + been thinking about what marketing hooks apply best to scicomm, will share tomorrow during tps coffee chat
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* Arielle + she/her + Keynote talk Malvika and I are sharing in Denver, around insights from the Turing Way & digital commons :sparkles:
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* Alejandro + he/him + Reproducibility for Climate and Environmental science (blog post in progress) + :writing_hand: :eyes:
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* Sophia + she/her: Inclusive events
* Richard Acton + + thinking about a nw journal club format I want to introduce at my institute based on [Reproducibilitea](https://reproducibilitea.org/)
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# The Turing Way Collaboration Café

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:::info
If you are new to HackMD, please see this document for a short guide (right click, open in a new window): [https://hackmd.io/@turingway/hackmd-guide](https://hackmd.io/@turingway/hackmd-guide).

To learn more about The Turing Way, visit our welcome page: https://the-turing-way.start.page/.
:::

We're delighted to have you here. All are welcome - no sign-ups needed. (We do recommend bringing your actual tea, coffee, water, etc. to this cafe! :coffee: :sparkles: :cake:)

**What?** [Collaboration Cafes](https://the-turing-way.netlify.app/community-handbook/coworking/coworking-collabcafe.html) are **online collaboration and coworking calls** that engage anyone interested in learning and discussing about research best practices and sharing them on The Turing Way book: https://the-turing-way.netlify.com

These are our regular community calls: where folks work on contributions to the project, discuss shared interests, or learn about how to get involved!

**When?** 18 October 2023, 15:00 - 17:00 Europe/London ([see in your time zone](https://arewemeetingyet.com/London/2023-10-04/15:00))

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**Zoom Information***:
* https://turing-uk.zoom.us/j/94049181248?pwd=Q09vZGlkMkFOajVKbUdSZDFXSDlGUT09
* Meeting ID: 940 4918 1248, Passcode: 587360

*Note: The waiting room is enabled. The host of this call will let you in.*
:::

**Next calls:** 1 November 2023, 15:00 - 17:00 Europe/London ([see in your time zone](https://arewemeetingyet.com/London/2022-10-18/15:00))

> :calendar: You're in the right place even if you're early, we update the dates every 2 weeks ready for the next cafe! To subscribe to our google calendar, use this link: https://calendar.google.com/calendar?cid=dGhldHVyaW5nd2F5QGdtYWlsLmNvbQ

For upcoming dates, please subscribe to *The Turing Way* calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar?cid=dGhldHVyaW5nd2F5QGdtYWlsLmNvbQ

**Who?** ***Everyone** interested in reproducible, ethical, and inclusive data science and research are welcome to join the full or any part of The Turing Way project, community, and/or this call. No prior sign-ups needed!*

***All questions, comments, and recommendations are welcome!***

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## Check-in and icebreaker

**Name + Pronouns + Share an interesting discussion or conversation you've had this week! + an emoji ([emoji cheatsheet](https://github.com/ikatyang/emoji-cheat-sheet/blob/master/README.md))**
*(Remember that this is a public document. You can use a pseudonym if you'd prefer.) Use the 🤫 emoji if you would not like to be included in our public archive*
* Anne + she/her + We had an interesting discussion at my team's meeting today about our research ethics process, which is making me wonder about others' experiences here! + :cat2:
* Richard J. ACton + + getting researhers to annotate their microscopy images well when they don't see the imediate benefits + :zany_face:
* Kirstie W + she/her +
* Sophia + she/her + Links between TMJ (joint in your jaw) and BVD (vision disorder) which is also linked with dyslexia - super cool chat with dental people
*
* Emma Karoune @she/her +

### "Community Chats" Schedule
_While Collaboration Cafes hold themed break-out rooms for projects that community members are working on, we are trialling themed "Community Chats" in the main room. These chats may be community or research-related: whatever you want to discuss or present! Feel free to join in without any pressure to participate - and remember, you can always drop by anytime, no sign-ups needed!✨_

| Date | Theme | Discussion Lead | Host |
| -------- | -------- | -------- | ----- |
| 4 October | Open room - catch-up | N/A | Anne |
| 18 October | AI-UK Submission for TTW | Kirstie (TBD) | Anne |
| 1 November | Governance discussion (TBD) | TBD | Anne |
| 15 November | Cancelled due to Book Dash | N/A | N/A |
| 6 December | Governance discussion (TBD) | Kirstie (TBD) | Anne |
| 20 December | Cancelled due to Holidays | N/A | N/A |

Possible topics (feel free to add your own ideas! :sparkles:)
* JupyterBook vs Quarto (Infrastructure?)
* CARE Principles & Indigenous Data Governance ([this issue!](https://github.com/the-turing-way/the-turing-way/issues/3223))
* Truthworthy & Ethical Assurance? (to be confirmed) - lead by Chris

### Advertise and promote your event or anything exciting you're working on. ✨

* New chapter on the Environmental Impact of Digital Research is live at https://the-turing-way.netlify.app/ethical-research/activism/activism-env-impact
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## Breakout rooms: Topic proposals and notes

*While no sign-ups are required to attend Collaboration Cafe, if you have an idea for a topic you'd like to discuss in a breakout room, please add it below and put your name next to it. If you like one of the topics that are already suggested, please add your name next to that one. For more information about breakout rooms see [the description on GitHub](https://github.com/alan-turing-institute/the-turing-way/blob/master/project_management/online-collaboration-cafe.md#breakout-rooms).*

* Main Room: Open Room
* 1st & 2nd Pomodoro: Accessibility discussion
* 3rd & 4th Pomodoro: New chapter on Environmental Impact for
* Privacy & GDPR compliance
* https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f40-change-request-privacy-preserving-telemetry-for-fedora-workstation-system-wide/85320
* Promotion:
* Goatherd for the community - sharing chapters & ideas, things they want to bring :heart:
* Chapter Plug
* Other room suggestions:
* FAIR and Accessible Turing Commons
* Operationalising Gemini Principles for Trustworthy Digital Twins (2nd Hour Only)
* From 4pm - Gitgood enrichment student session
* Practitioners Hub
* Localisation Room
* Turing Commons
* Digital assets & assessibility
* Self assessment & evaluation checklist to ip
* Environmental & Sustainability
* Energy Efficiency on the desktop:
* https://eco.kde.org/categories/energy-efficiency/
* TTW Contributors Room
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### Link List ✨

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**Notes from main room discussion**
* Practitioners Hub Notes
* UX/Fruto workshop:
* RS: Dealing with prioritisation of stakeholders, how to make them feel embedded in the pipeline.
* LS: UX workflow was new introduction, was useful in doing interviews. It would have been good to know where we can bring it back - was useful in case studies.
* RH: Had some awareness of users and user-experience, but had not formally seen the techniques discussed. Good to learn how to do it well. In 1:1, used them to talk about general transformation and progress of organisation. Had some grassroots plans for implementing ideas, but it could go only so far. It was interesting to hear how to get high level support in the organisation to influence people down. Specifically talked about network that RH runs, where UX can be increased. There was enough time to do the homework between 1 and 2nd workshop. Was an interesting and useful workshop.
* SH: We want to support innovators in building open source tools (enable the use rather then building). It was useful to have frameworks to see systems level.
* AAA: Sometimes I felt the energy was low. But the curriculum was very good.
* Would love unstructured in person meeting to exchange some knowledge that we have that others are interested in. +1+1+1
* Business development: RedHat
* Licensing: OpenUK?
* Demo of each others work
* Skills gaps analysis workshop:
* LS: Most relevant to what LS is doing in skills development
* SH: AI SKills Roadmap: Pool is not there to bring under who to bring to fill the gap. People are struggling to find the skills needed (like coding skills, domain knowledge - like energy specific ones) -- how can we expand the tool to design courses like masters/acrreditation.
* DCE and clinical AI in the Turing are looking to get their curriculum accreditated.
* how to keep the curriculum up to date for the fast changing landscape for AI/DS.
* Example from UCL: Energy and Analytics (work very closely with active stakeholders)
* RH: We talked about people in uni, but there are not enough people who we can hire, and even if we do we probably can't afford them.
* How can we better engage with people and retain them. how can they be trained while in job.
* Building a sense of Psychological safety for people who are not used to not knowing things. How to make it easy to make mistakes.
* Data Science can be very elitist group, we can do many in person training. It's not about recruitment but provide resources that they can be upskilled (outside uni). people with do
* Privacy

## Agenda

| Time | Activity |
| ---- | -------- |
| 10 mins | Introductions and Needs for Rooms |
| 20 mins | 🍅 1st Pomodoro session |
| 5 mins | ☕️ Break - **not enforced** |
| 20 mins | 🍅 2nd Pomodoro session |
| 10 mins | ☕️ Break - **enforced: 1hr mark** |
| 20 mins | 🍅 3rd Pomodoro session |
| 5 mins | ☕️ Break - **not enforced** |
| 20 mins | 🍅 4th Pomodoro session |
| 5 mins | 👋 Wrap up: celebrations, reflections and future directions |
| 5 mins | 👋 Close |

### Pomodoro timer for this session
https://cuckoo.team/collabcafe

### Feedback at the end of the call

* About the conversation about Analytics: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f40-change-request-privacy-preserving-telemetry-for-fedora-workstation-system-wide/85320
* I think we should try more GDPR compliant analytics platforms, https://plausible.io/
* https://github.com/the-turing-way/the-turing-way/pull/2998
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## Host/Co-host a future call

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We have posted guidance and resources for the chairs/hosts in our chapters: https://the-turing-way.netlify.app/community-handbook/coworking/coworking-collabcafe.html.

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