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# Talking Drupal #451 - Just Say Drupal
Today we are talking about Drupal Marketing with version numbers, what competitors are doing, and Learning to Just Saying Drupal with guest Ivan Stegic. We’ll also cover Trash as our module of the week.

For show notes visit:
[www.talkingDrupal.com/451](https://www.talkingDrupal.com/451)

## Topics
- What is the premise of Just Say Drupal
- Why do you think it is important to drop the version number
- Where do you suggest we drop verison numbers
- In sales, if you don't mention version, how do you talk to clients
- Why could using version numbers be detrimental
- What do you suggest we call Drupal 7
- Have you spoken to the Drupal marketing team
- At Drupalcon they unveiled a new Brand Guide
- What do you think of Drupal Starshot
- Where do we go from here

## Resources
* Ten7 Blog - Just Say Drupal
    * https://ten7.com/blog/post/just-say-drupal
    * https://justsaydrupal.org
* [Drupal issue](https://www.drupal.org/project/ideas/issues/3424410)
* [Drupal Brand Guide](https://drupal.widencollective.com/portals/gfvztttq/BrandPortal)
* [Drupal.org Issue](https://www.drupal.org/project/ideas/issues/3424410)
* Starshot
    * https://www.drupal.org/starshot
    * https://www.hojtsy.hu/blog/2024-may-13/drupal-11-deep-dive-watch-recording-present-your-own-free-slides
    * https://herchel.com/articles/thoughts-drupals-new-starshot-initiative
    * https://mglaman.dev/blog/starshot-recipe-cook-ambitious-drupal-applications
* [Drupal tooling](https://www.drupal.org/project/ideas/issues/3400254)

## Guests
Ivan Stegic - [ten7.com](https://ten7.com) [ivanstegic](https://www.drupal.org/u/ivanstegic)

## Hosts
Nic Laflin - [nLighteneddevelopment.com](https://www.nLighteneddevelopment.com) [nicxvan](https://www.drupal.org/u/nicxvan)
John Picozzi - [epam.com](https://www.epam.com) [johnpicozzi](https://www.drupal.org/u/johnpicozzi)
Matthew Grasmick - [grasmash](https://www.drupal.org/u/grasmash)

## MOTW
### Correspondent
Martin Anderson-Clutz - [mandclu.com](https://mandclu.com) [mandclu](https://www.drupal.org/u/mandclu)
* Brief description:
    * Have you ever wanted your Drupal site to have a trash bin for content entities, so they wouldn’t be immediately deleted from the database? There’s a module for that
* Module name/project name:
    * [Trash](https://www.drupal.org/project/trash )
* Brief history
    * How old: created in Feb 2008 by rötzi, though recent releases are by Andrei Mateescu (mah-teh-sku) (amateescu) of Tag1
    * Versions available: 3.0.3, compatible with Drupal 9, 10, and 11
* Maintainership
    * Actively maintained, release less than two months old
    * Security coverage
    * Test coverage
    * Number of open issues: 7 open issues, 3 of which are bugs against the current branch
* Usage stats:
    * 1899 sites
* Module features and usage
    * Once the module is installed, you choose which entity types on your site should use the new trash storage
    * For all the configured entities, deleting a piece of content moves it into the new trash storage, along with a timestamp set for when it went into the trash
    * You can configure whether or not the trash should be automatically purged on a periodic basis, and if so how often that should happen
    * It seems that there are some entities for which the Trash module currently excludes its functionality, such as users, comments, taxonomy terms, and so on. The note in the code indicates that more testing is needed, so any of our listeners who wants to trash entities for any of these types could try out patching the TrashSettingsFormand on a local copy and provide feedback based on how things work
    * The ability to restore deleted content is a request I’ve heard a number of times, so this could be a really useful module for making Drupal work in ways that certain teams expect
