# TD Cafe #007 - Martin Anderson-Clutz & Jürgen Haas

In this episode, Martin and Jürgen dive deep into the concept of modular API, ECA and more. Jürgen shares insights from Dev Days in Lubin, key improvements in ECA 3.0, and the exciting potential of leveraging the BPMN interface for AI. The conversation also addresses future aspirations for ECA. Additionally, Jürgen and Martin share their personal travel hacks and discuss the intersection of Drupal travel and photography.

For show notes visit:
[https://www.talkingDrupal.com/cafe008](https://www.talkingDrupal.com/cafe008)

## Topics

### Martin Anderson-Clutz

Martin Anderson-Clutz is a highly respected figure in the Drupal community, known for his extensive contributions as a developer, speaker, and advocate for open-source innovation. Based in London, Ontario, Canada, Martin began his career as a graphic designer before transitioning into web development. His journey with Drupal started in late 2005 when he was seeking a robust multilingual CMS solution, leading him to embrace Drupal's capabilities.
Martin holds the distinction of being the world's first Triple Drupal Grand Master, certified across Drupal 7, 8, and 9 as a Developer, Front-End Specialist, and Back-End Specialist. He also possesses certifications in various Acquia products and is UX certified by the Nielsen Norman Group.
Currently serving as a Senior Solutions Engineer at Acquia, Martin has been instrumental in advancing Drupal's ecosystem. He has developed and maintains several contributed modules, including Smart Date and Search Overrides, and has been actively involved in the Drupal Recipes initiative, particularly focusing on event management solutions. His current work on the Event Platform aims to streamline the creation and management of event-based websites within Drupal.
Beyond development, Martin is a prominent speaker and educator, having presented at numerous Drupal events such as DrupalCon Barcelona and EvolveDrupal. He is also a co-host of the "Talking Drupal" podcast, where he leads the "Module of the Week" segment, sharing insights on various Drupal modules.
Martin's dedication to the Drupal community is evident through his continuous efforts to mentor, innovate, and promote best practices within the open-source landscape.

### Jürgen Haas

Jürgen Haas is a seasoned software architect, open source advocate, and long-time contributor to the Drupal community. Based in Germany, Jürgen brings decades of experience in enterprise IT solutions, specializing in system architecture, security, and digital transformation. He is known for his leadership within the ECA project and for being the track lead for privacy and data protection in Drupal CMS.
Jürgen is an active participant in community initiatives, a frequent speaker at Drupal events, and a mentor to developers looking to deepen their expertise in scalable and secure web applications. His work reflects a passion for innovation, collaboration, and the power of open-source technology to solve real-world business challenges

* Introduction to Modular API
* Conversations at Dev Days
* Exploring Modeler API
* AI Integration and Future Prospects
* Challenges and Comparisons with Other Tools
* Community Collaboration and AI Initiatives
* Future Roadmap for ECA
* Travel Hacks and Personal Insights
* Conclusion and Final Thoughts

## Resouces
[Detect Upstream Changes: Weekly Module Testing with GitLab CI](https://www.lakedrops.com/en/blog/detect-upstream-changes-weekly-module-testing-gitlab-ci)

[Real Drupal Site Dependency Testing – A Strategic Approach](https://www.lakedrops.com/en/blog/real-drupal-site-dependency-testing-strategic-approach)

## Guests
Martin Anderson-Clutz - [mandclu.com](https://mandclu.com) [mandclu](https://www.drupal.org/u/mandclu)
Jürgen Haas - [jurgenhaas](https://www.drupal.org/u/jurgenhaas)

00:00 Introduction to Modular API
00:33 Conversations at Dev Days
00:56 Exploring Modeler API
03:01 AI Integration and Future Prospects
07:16 Challenges and Comparisons with Other Tools
11:05 Community Collaboration and AI Initiatives
25:03 Future Roadmap for ECA
38:15 Travel Hacks and Personal Insights
48:54 Conclusion and Final Thoughts