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**Date:** October 3rd 9:00AM PDT
**Topic:** SPECs 


### Attendees

- Jarrod Millman
- Madicken Munk
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### Relevant Links

- [Scientific Python - Scientific Python Ecosystem Coordination](https://scientific-python.org/specs/)
- [GitHub - scientific-python/specs: Scientific Python Ecosystem Coordination (SPEC) documents](https://github.com/scientific-python/specs)

### Agenda

1. Updates
    - [spec-0 and spec-4 endorsements by xarray](https://github.com/scientific-python/specs/pull/270)
    - [endorse spec 4 by IPython](https://github.com/scientific-python/specs/pull/268)
    - [add MNE to list of SPEC001 adopters](https://github.com/scientific-python/specs/pull/271)
    - [Generate gallery from GH teams](https://github.com/scientific-python/specs/pull/276)
2. Teams
    - [How do you add a member?](https://deploy-preview-276--scientific-python-specs.netlify.app/specs/steering-committee/#how-do-you-add-a-member)
        - make a PR to https://github.com/scientific-python/teams
        - make a PR to https://github.com/scientific-python/scientific-python.org/ after running `make teams`
        - add them to https://discuss.scientific-python.org/g/spec-steering-committee
        - this requires that they have accounts on both GitHub and discuss.scientific-python.org.
    - Investigate [Invite discourse users to a group](https://meta.discourse.org/t/invite-users-to-a-group/15544)
3. Pending PRs
    - [SPEC-0000: Soften explicit drop schedule](https://github.com/scientific-python/specs/pull/273)
    - [Clarify schedule is guideline](https://github.com/scientific-python/specs/pull/272)
4. Affiliated projects / Domain stacks / Cards / Badges / etc.
    - [Question: Is there any core library missing?](https://github.com/scientific-python/specs/issues/241)
    - [Domain stacks](https://scientific-python.org/summits/domain-stacks/)
    - [Add badges](https://github.com/scientific-python/specs/issues/240)
5. Theme
    - [Dark theme](https://theme.scientific-python.org/)
    - [Project pages](https://scientific-python.org/specs/core-projects/ipython/)
    - other issues
    - reviewers / feature requests
6. CZI EEOS 6
    - [LOI due October 17](https://chanzuckerberg.com/rfa/essential-open-source-software-for-science/)

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**Date:** June 26th 11:00AM PDT
**Topic:** SPECs 


### Attendees

- Juanita Gomez
- Jarrod Millman
- Stéfan van der Walt
- Matthias Bussonnier
- Pamphile Roy
- Kristen Thyng
- Inessa Pawson
- Paul Ivanov
- Lars Grüter
- Stefan van der Walt
- Madicken Munk
- Brigitta Sipőcz
- Sanket Verma
- Ralf Gommers
- Pey Lian Lim

### Relevant Links

- [Scientific Python - Scientific Python Ecosystem Coordination](https://scientific-python.org/specs/)
- [GitHub - scientific-python/specs: Scientific Python Ecosystem Coordination (SPEC) documents](https://github.com/scientific-python/specs)

### Agenda

- SciPy 2023 sprint
    - Matthias: I'm not here but can try to remote join to migrate the bot if needs be.
    - Who would be here and have time to organise things ?
        - Kirsten comming but not to sprint. Pamphile same.
        - Maybe meet one evening. 
        - Maybe one "Scientific Python Sprint"
        - I'm available to help on the 2nd day of sprints, i.e. 16th July - Sanket
        - I'll be there both days and can help, but organizing/leading will be difficult - Madicken
        - I'll be there both days of the sprints - Paul
        - I'll be there both days. Dinner/lunch breakout would work best - Brigitta
        - Will be there both days - @stefanv
        - I'll be there on both days - Inessa
        - I'll be there first day only but might not have full day for this - @pllim
        - Will be there both days, not sure whether scikit-image sprint will take precedence - @lagru

- EuroSciPy 2023 sprint
    - No one seem to be going to ESP.

- NF Project summit satellite meetings (September 11 - 13, 2023, Amsterdam, NL)
    - Maybe a satellite spec print a day before. 
    - Matthias: I'll likely be there. 
    - If I go, I would be interested - Brigitta
    - If I go, I'd be happy to work on SPECs - Inessa


- Monthly calls
    - Matthias: I'm happy with monthly.
    - Madicken: I'm happy with montly also.
        - Matthias: Montly manucure ? 
        - Madicken: Of course! Get ready to party.
    - Brigitta: would be happy with regular meetings
    - Sanket: In favour with monthly meetings.
    - Inessa: +1 for monthly meetings


- Governance
    - Membership
        - "stepping out"
        - term limits
        - automatic conversion to emeritus status after year of inactivity
        - Inessa could help with the first draft
    - Core projects
        - Zarr ?
            - Yes! Will be sending a PR soon for the same - Sanket
        - how to deal with domain focusing, but large(ish) projects?
            - Madicken: This could run into political issues with other domain-specific packages (choosing one over another)
            - Brigitta: indeed, all or none feels like a better aproach. They can still choose to follow specs, participate in writing them, just won't be listed as endorsers.
            - Madicken +1 to that idea. It seems like a good way to be inclusive to the domain without seeming like a "cool kids club"
    - Affiliate / interested projects
        - Supporting projects (?)
    - automate membership invites etc.




- New SPECs

- Link to all current SPECs: https://scientific-python.org/specs/

- SPEC 0
    - https://github.com/scientific-python/specs/issues/173
    - https://github.com/scientific-python/specs/issues/177
    - https://github.com/scientific-python/specs/issues/190
    - https://github.com/scientific-python/specs/issues/211
    - https://github.com/scientific-python/specs/issues/217

- SPEC 1
    - Additional endorsements?

- SPEC 2 (replace?)
    - Adopt a new status (withdrawn/abandoned)

- SPEC 3
    - endorsements

- SPEC 4
    - Additional endorsements?
    - https://github.com/scientific-python/specs/issues/223
    - https://github.com/scientific-python/specs/pull/225
- SPEC 6 and 7 draft PRs
    - https://github.com/scientific-python/specs/pull/168
    - https://github.com/scientific-python/specs/pull/180


## TO DO

- Clarify what 'endorse' means in the main website [#228](https://github.com/scientific-python/specs/issues/228)
- Take down the website https://api-dispatch.scientific-python.org [#229](https://github.com/scientific-python/specs/issues/229)
- Ralf will update SPEC 2 
- SPEC 7 needs follow-up with scipy and scikit-learn