# Libs Meeting 2024-01-10

###### tags: `Libs Meetings` `Minutes`

**Meeting Link**: https://meet.google.com/jde-nduz-eps
**Attendees**: Amanieu, Josh Stone, Chris Denton, The 8472, Mara

## Brainstorm: things to do in 2024

- refactoring of std::sys

- reevaluate platform requirements
- are current or former requirements holding us back?
- we could add the platform version in the target triple, like on freebsd.
- thread local storage on android is only supported since a recent version
- build-std would allow cfg(os version)

- cross-team interaction: feature wishlist for other teams.
- list of features that would unblock our work. clearly specify which feature it unblocks/enables.
- improve reviewer assignment by rustbot
- backpressure to avoid swamping individual reviewers

- organisation
- libs and libs-api split still useful?
- libs-api: who should get checkboxes?
- crate-maintainers falls under libs, but in practice do their own thing.
- indexmap to rust-lang?
- what does it mean for something to be moved to rust-lang? discussion ongoing
- shared infrastructure possible
- Rust CoC and moderation
- "bus factor"

- RFCs, open unstable features, ACPs, ..
- always going to be an infinite amount of work

- goals
- keep handling backports in time
- improve review queue
- contributors are allowed to review and can be on the rotation
- actively invite them?
- more documentation on how to review?
- hard to write in advance
- just document mistakes when made
- expectations (e.g. level of detail) should be documented
- mentoring?
- not as a requirement, but to boost confidence.
- we already have a private channel: t-libs/reviewers
- only expand the review rotation, or also increase amount of folks with r+ rights for libs?
- expand libs team
- specifically reviewers
- libc 0.3
- Amanieu can mentor anyone who is interested in that.
- https://github.com/rust-lang/libc/issues/3248
- more actively recruit people for specific tasks? e.g. open an issue for researching something?
- have more "help wanted" issues on rust-lang/libs-team, and collect those in a blog post or meta tracking issue or project board?
- long review times discourages people to focus on implementation work

personal goals/wishes?

- the8472: dirfd stuff
- amanieu: `is` language feature (removing the need for .is_some(), .is_none(), etc. etc.)
- should we reserve `is` in 2024?
- (could use `k#is` for now)
- mara: deprecate thread_local!{}. would be nice if `#[thread_local]` worked everywhere, and then use that with OnceCell explicitly.
- josh stone: Try trait over the finish line.
- josh stone: at least namable and usable as bound.
- 8472: blocked partially on never type?

- solve burnout?

concrete actions:
- invite libs-contributors to review queue, check back next week
- Josh Stone to write a message on Zulip.
- ask for improvements to rustbot
- The 8472 to dig up the relevant threads and post a message.