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# PlasmaPy Community Meeting | Tuesday 2021 December 7 at 19:00 UT
### Video Conference Information
* [Zoom link](https://zoom.us/j/91633383503?pwd=QWNkdHpWeFhrYW1vQy91ODNTVG5Ndz09)
* Instant messaging: [Matrix](https://app.element.io/#/room/#plasmapy:openastronomy.org) and [Gitter](https://gitter.im/PlasmaPy/Lobby)
* [GitHub Minutes Repository](https://github.com/PlasmaPy/plasmapy-project/tree/master/minutes)
* ["Community" Sub-directory](https://github.com/PlasmaPy/plasmapy-project/tree/master/minutes/_community)
* [PlasmaPy on GitHub](https://github.com/PlasmaPy/plasmapy) ([pull requests](https://github.com/PlasmaPy/plasmapy/pulls), [issues](https://github.com/PlasmaPy/plasmapy/issues))
* [PlasmaPy Enhancement Proposals on GitHub](https://github.com/PlasmaPy/PlasmaPy-PLEPs)
* [PlasmaPy Google Calendar](https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=c_sqqq390s24jjfjp3q86pv41pi8%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America%2FNew_York)
## Agenda (please feel free to edit or add items)
1. Introductions
2. 10-15 minutes for [roadmap](https://hackmd.io/@plasmapy/ry0mmnj6v)
3. solicit "Project Issues"
4. conda-forge build problem
5. Grids `test_grid_methods()`
6. Citations for contributed work
7. ...
8. Issues
1. ...
9. Pull requests in progress
1. Lite functions
## Attendees
* Erik
* Nick
* Dominik
* Luciano
## Action Items
***Person***
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## Minutes
* [conda-forge test failure](https://github.com/conda-forge/plasmapy-feedstock/pull/16) was related to a test that needed random values but was not seeded. Not enough to warrant a bugfix release.
* [Legacy random number generation with NumPy](https://numpy.org/doc/stable/reference/random/legacy.html?highlight=randomstate#numpy.random.RandomState)
* For the grid test that was failing, we could probably skip the random number generator and instead use particular values to create a nonuniform grid?
* This is addressed in Peter's [PR 1295](https://github.com/PlasmaPy/PlasmaPy/pull/1295/files)
* Plan for the nearby future:
* Dominik: go through Peter's grid/transport PRs
* Nick: greeter bot, contributor guide, Lite II, Paschen?
* US Research Software Association: training working group; training for RSE community ~ March/June; Nick going to advertise when they happen
* LiteI stalled on $\text{review}^2$
* Peter: "how can we get more peer reviewers so things don't get stuck in purgatory?"
* Dominik feels guilty about this.
* Systemically, Peter is not *rewarded* by contributing to OSS; a PR doesn't go into papers published, etc etc.
* in next grant cycle, have people submit proposals; we accept 2-3 of them; then a core dev (us) works specifically with that proposal and collaborate with proposal authors to help them develop their code
* for now: having citable functionality. Peter now writing paper on proton radiography; has a paragraph on the code, but could expand the paragraph
* [Software citation principles](https://www.force11.org/software-citation-principles) from FORCE11
* [Reviews for Journal of Open Source Software](https://github.com/openjournals/joss-reviews/)
* [ ] need to check whether large PRs/submodules fit their scope
* have an admonition saying: if you use this functionality, cite the plasmapy version you're using and this functionality paper
* zenodo DOI - not peer reviewed
* reviews often change code in a major way
* potential idea: sphinx directive
* do we PLEP this? or contributor guide while it's calcifying?
* Discussion on what constitutes usage deserving of citing the tool you use
* Astrophysical Journal has:
* ``\software{NumPy, SciPy, PlasmaPy}``
* [AAS journals policy on software](https://journals.aas.org/news/policy-statement-on-software/)
* What constitutes citable versus acknowledgeable?
* https://journals.aas.org/news/policy-statement-on-software/
* [Actual footage of Nick posting on DPP forums about software citation and open metadata standards (2021, colorized)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8K17mzV-QU)
* How do we bring this knowledge on software citation to the broader community?
* DPP forum
* Make more use of our newsletter
* Presentations in future mini-conferences (like Daina Bouquin's presentation from DPP 2020)