# 2025-08-15/16 OSM bbq @ Joost's house in Halle, Belgium

## Registration form

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc33mENvOgrHYJK5MNJH9rRe89gqtJ_EXHTLHDDSrOHtYf4_w/viewform?usp=dialog

## Attendees

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hgo8NSzwH6rV-wROZrF12YF1u43Q-njW_kCehERIJy8/edit?gid=984756797#gid=984756797

## To invite, next to the effective members:
(Thierry1030 will do)
* invited: Pierre Serpe,
* to invite: Hans Vandenabbeele?, our corporate members

## Apologized
Jakka, Ruben Van de Velde, GPoilvet, JuanjoMC, MikiDi, Peer Van Daalen, Raphael_PasLoin, Mizuna, Thibault Rommel, Tolhuis, kvde, wegspotter, xivk, Le_Sharkoïste, Johan Joubert, escada, JanFi, Jhowhie Nitnek, bxl-forever, StephDegreef, escada, s8evq, djsa, Kevin@RouteYou, H4N5-antw

## Confirmed

| Name | Friday | staying the night | Saturday |
| ------------ |:------:|:-----------------:|:--------:|
| Joost (host) | ✔ | ✔ | ✔ |
| Thierry1030 | ✔ | ✔ | ✔ |
| Jonathan | ✔ | ✘ | ✔ |
| Seppe | ✔ | ✔ (tent) | ✔ |
| Luna | ✔ | ✔ | ✔ |
| Thibault | ✘ | ✘ | ✔ |
| abstract / kabelhaai| ✔ | ✘ | ✘ |
| ValidDistress | ✔ | ✔ | ✔ |
| Daan Vanderveken | ✔ | ✘ | ✔ |
| Pieter VDV | ✔ | ✔ | ✔ |
| dentonny | ✔ | ✘ | ✘ |
| juminet | ✔ | ✔ (tent) | ✔ |
| Eebie | ✔ | ✘ | ✔ |
| M!dgard | ✔ | ✔ | ✔ |
| Anakil | ✔ | ✘ | ✘ |
| leronimus | ✔ | ✘ | ✘ |

## Program
### 15/08: social gathering
* from 15h00
* kids, pets and partners welcome
* food & drinks will be provided by OSM.be
* let us know if you have special dietary restrictions & what you like to drink
* you can spend the night at Joost's place: we have two spare double beds in the house and a double bed in the camper. There is also plenty of space to pitch a tent in the [garden](https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/471369529). Otherwise, bring your own sleeping mat

### 16/08: hackday

* 10:00-18:00
* let us know what you would like to work on. We suggest already:
~~* OSM.be website content refresh; deadline for https://github.com/Eebie/website/pull/1~~
* preparing communication for the next several months
~~* think about 10 years Belgian local chapter in 2026 (!)~~
* check double cycle infra mapping, both on main way and separate way
~~* Luna & kabelhaai: open discussion about reconsidering the highway convention regarding trunk road classification: redefine the definition, to enlarge the scope outside of just 'autoweg F9 sign'. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway
> Trunk proposal: it remains
> "upgraded primary highway"
> that meet these criteria:
In the Flemish region:
- 70km/h with more than 2 directions per
- direction
- - minimum 90kmh if there's 1 lan per direction
In Wallonia: 70/90kmh doesn't work as
"upgraded primary highway"
In Brussels: min 50kmh with more than 2 lanes in 1 direction~~
* ~~Jelle: bpost post boxes update~~
~~* Luna, juminet, M!gard: status of the GRB tool update?~~
~~*Seppe: ["Mapping in Belgium" JOSM presets](https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Presets/BENELUX): improvements / updates ? Improvements for [WikiProject Belgium](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium)?~~
* super route relation > zie diary post https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Polyglot/diary/393911
* it also makes sense to put the Brussels cycle highways under their own cycle_network tag. thierry.js1030 can you add this in the wiki? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:cycle_network%3DBE-VLG:cycle_highway
* ~~juminet: A new tool for QA and monitoring: osmose~~
~~* Thierry1030: Volgens de officiële website van de Vlaamse overheid, Fietssnelwegen.be, werd de voorbije jaren 2.800 kilometer fietssnelweg aangelegd, voornamelijk langs kanalen en spoorwegen. Niemand heeft bijgehouden tot hoeveel bijkomende verharding dit heeft geleid.~~
~~* Thierry1030: notes concerning Toerisme VL toilets still relevant?
> where there are no pictures and no relevant extra info, we can close them
* Thierry1030: who's willing to host OSM BE summer bbq in 2026? Luna in Vossem is an option~~
~~* Jelle: wikidata van Belgische winkels en andere handelszaken~~
~~* Joost: Maproulette for NCCN~~
~~*Daan: presence on Fiets-en wandelbeurs to make OSM known and navigation. Could we give a presentation? February 2026 ...
+ write articles, e.g. for Groute Routepaden~~

## Praktisch
- Joost maakt vegan lasagne
- hapjes & drank
- alle bedden opmaken > geen slaapzak nodig!
- als iemand flipcharts heeft
- vragen ivm projector
- alles betalen met de OSM kaart!
- woensdag of vrijdag (feestdag!) om drank, broodbeleg en hapjes
- bestelling frietwagen op voorhand vragen > nakijken of ze wel open zijn!
- zaterdagochtend om brood & koffiekoeken